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ItsYoungLee
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)227 Posts
September 07 2011 19:07 GMT
#21
On September 08 2011 02:33 KeksX wrote:
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On September 08 2011 02:29 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't really know how to deal with 15 nex on Tal'darim Altar. Bunker rush seemed appropriate, but there was no way my 1 marine would get there in time to do anything-- and if I hang out and just go ahead with my FE he'll execute a hilarious 2-base timing. Same if I go for a quick third, especially since terran expos cost 550 minerals, and there are rocks at the third base.

I didn't make a 2nd production facility until after he canceled the nexus because I was so surprised. 15 nexus is less common than, like, cannon rush, at least in my experience. And nobody uses cannon rush anyways.


Okay look at this way:
If he places a 15 nexus, want kind of production does he have?

None.
Even if you'd just send one marine, with proper micro you could've killed him(Okay maybe thats a bit too much :D). Or at least deal so much damage that his economy goes down heavily.
Now imagine if you'd send 5 marines; or 10.
It's the reason you bunker rush vs 15 hatch: he has no decent production to be safe early enough.
15 Nexus / Hatch is economic cheese in a way that it's expanding without being completely safe. Punishing that is the right way to deal with it.

Don't feel bad, feel good that your gut feeling was completely right.


I can tell you as a protoss player that's succeeded using 15/16 nexus against some decent terrans that if the protoss doesn't slack off and actually scouts the front of his nexus he'll pull probes and stop bunkers and a zealot will be out in time to thwart your marines and a stalker will be out to thwart your reaper with loss of maybe only 1-2 probes. The best counter is to go hellion with marauder. Scout with your hellion, and if you see cannons in the front, get a tank or two and push. If you don't see cannons in front, laugh as your marauders chew up his stalkers and your hellions chew up his zealots - this is much easier for the terran to micro.
ePParamedico.160 (formerly ElParamedico)
Xelus
Profile Joined September 2011
United States16 Posts
September 07 2011 19:22 GMT
#22
I'm a silver player; not much experienced but some thing like this happened to me. Seen a Terran scout me with 2 SCV's. I was scared of a bunker rush on my expo and went straight into roach after canceling my expo and went with a all-in roach borrow, to only find the Terran having a PF out side of his own expo with bunkers. :\
"A Man Who Loses Everything, Is Capable Of Anything"
ssi.bal-listic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 20:03:18
September 07 2011 20:02 GMT
#23
LOL u should write a book about this XD
so hilarious
"It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you" "The strong one doesn't win, the one that wins is strong"
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 21:37:48
September 07 2011 21:37 GMT
#24
For some reason I had + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSLvcJ4I1mw
stuck in my head and I found your blog, erupting it into a full on problem.

All and all it's a decent theme song for this blog.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
September 07 2011 21:48 GMT
#25
I'm sorry for my 6 pools! I have trouble dealing with the Protoss..
An apple a day keeps the Protoss away | TLHF
hype[NZ]
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Japan412 Posts
September 07 2011 22:13 GMT
#26
I imagine that you never played BW... vsing a protoss that goes nexus first in PvT should be enough to turn the most passive and timid terran into a seething hate machine
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 07 2011 22:19 GMT
#27
Well, to be fair, there's no FD to be had in the Sc2 TvP metagame, and BBS is kinda not a thing either, though I DID 1/1/1 him so that's sorta kinda related, but still tank-centric. Sc2 is a whole different animal with warpgate, chrono-boost from a 2nd nexus, and stalkers automatically having range 6.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Sjk1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom22 Posts
September 07 2011 23:25 GMT
#28
What... What have you done...! :D haha!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 23:41:43
September 07 2011 23:41 GMT
#29
On September 08 2011 08:25 Sjk1 wrote:
What... What have you done...! :D haha!


Angeal
I've become a Monster... As a Monster the only thing I can think of doing is world conquest or revenge.
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Or, in this case, bunker rush.

<3 Crisis Core </3 bunker rushes and 15 nexus
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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