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On August 06 2011 02:06 Marcus420 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2011 02:01 desrow wrote:On August 06 2011 01:58 Chill wrote:On August 06 2011 00:42 Darkdeath3 wrote:On August 06 2011 00:38 PeZuY wrote: Is this against TL rules also? From my understanding what you do on your stream is your own business but TL can choose not to support it and what not. I know in the past they ban known cheaters and hackers but this isnt cheating but it is against the terms of service so i dont know. Maybe a mod could give some clarfication. TL will not police your stream if you are rude and abuse your power. However, TL will unfeature or disable your stream if you are caught cheating, restreaming events, or acting illegally. In this case, Desrow will be unfeatured if he continues to stream 'powerleveling'. Thanks for the warning. I talked with hotbid I think a month ago when someone else got upset about this and it definitely sounded like a grey area. You can rest assured that I won't be streaming it anymore. good to hear ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) +1 respect for seeing your mistakes and taking action. How is not streaming it taking action for a "mistake"? It's violating Blizzard's ToS regardless of if he streams it or not.
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On August 06 2011 02:11 Tegin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2011 02:06 Marcus420 wrote:On August 06 2011 02:01 desrow wrote:On August 06 2011 01:58 Chill wrote:On August 06 2011 00:42 Darkdeath3 wrote:On August 06 2011 00:38 PeZuY wrote: Is this against TL rules also? From my understanding what you do on your stream is your own business but TL can choose not to support it and what not. I know in the past they ban known cheaters and hackers but this isnt cheating but it is against the terms of service so i dont know. Maybe a mod could give some clarfication. TL will not police your stream if you are rude and abuse your power. However, TL will unfeature or disable your stream if you are caught cheating, restreaming events, or acting illegally. In this case, Desrow will be unfeatured if he continues to stream 'powerleveling'. Thanks for the warning. I talked with hotbid I think a month ago when someone else got upset about this and it definitely sounded like a grey area. You can rest assured that I won't be streaming it anymore. good to hear ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) +1 respect for seeing your mistakes and taking action. How is not streaming it taking action for a "mistake"? It's violating Blizzard's ToS regardless of if he streams it or not.
Well since you can't know is he or is he not playing on another account powerleveling some bronze player, there is not much you can do about it. But still its better this way that he can't stream it atleast.
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On August 06 2011 02:04 Shameless wrote: People paying for things like this are freaking sad, i've seen the same shit happen on Protech's stream, but his fee is like 40 dollars an hour and ppl actually pay it... :S
Find the vods and send that shit to blizzard. People who do this stuff should be permabanned from sc2.
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On August 06 2011 02:20 Swad1000 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2011 02:04 Shameless wrote: People paying for things like this are freaking sad, i've seen the same shit happen on Protech's stream, but his fee is like 40 dollars an hour and ppl actually pay it... :S Find the vods and send that shit to blizzard. People who do this stuff should be permabanned from sc2. /signed.
Especially someone who considers himself as a professional yet can't follow simple rules.
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WTF are you all so legal and **** ??? Stop judging other people, and look in your own yard. Sad you're getting your *** kicked in ladder ? Stop playing! Sad you're in lower leagues ? Stop Playing! Sad you don't have enough money ? Learn SC and power-level other dudes for it !
Omg I can't believe people really care so much 'bout other peoples shit!
Peace des !
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On August 06 2011 02:26 Tegin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2011 02:20 Swad1000 wrote:On August 06 2011 02:04 Shameless wrote: People paying for things like this are freaking sad, i've seen the same shit happen on Protech's stream, but his fee is like 40 dollars an hour and ppl actually pay it... :S Find the vods and send that shit to blizzard. People who do this stuff should be permabanned from sc2. /signed. Especially someone who considers himself as a professional yet can't follow simple rules. I dont think this should turn into some kind of witch hunt, I just wished he stopped doing this stupid shit and he says he's gonna stop, so thats good for me.
Gl desrow, just dont act like an ass next time someone finds something bothering them on your stream.
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w/e you do don't unfeature desrow. He is consistently on, way more then other featured streamers and provides good entertainment to those who watch. If being featured requires consistent steaming and high level play...desrow has filled those more so then most. As far as I can tell this is the first time hes being told to stop directly from TL, and he has agreed to. Anything else rests in blizzards hand. A lot of people do things which violate the ToS everyday.
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On August 06 2011 02:33 x3m wrote: WTF are you all so legal and **** ??? Stop judging other people, and look in your own yard. Sad you're getting your *** kicked in ladder ? Stop playing! Sad you're in lower leagues ? Stop Playing! Sad you don't have enough money ? Learn SC and power-level other dudes for it !
Omg I can't believe people really care so much 'bout other peoples shit!
Peace des ! Guess you are the kind of anti police fellow. Fuck the laws fuck the rules.
Atleast desrow hasn't been douche of this and has stopped streaming powerleveling as for time being.
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On August 06 2011 02:02 Probe1 wrote: So Blizzard sends a cease and desist call to HuK for playing on TLO's account because his MMR is broken while desrow intentionally violates the ToS for profit?
Fun. HuK and TLO wouldn't get warnings either if one of them took money from the other. Hirosue got unfeatured without a warning when he let scan stream on his account iirc. I thought that TL is sensitive about this kind of issues and would unfeature desrow as well.
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all of you that want to QQ about power leveling need to grow up..it shouldnt matter to you AT ALL, you arent the one paying and unless you happen to face him in a match this is none of your business...all of these gamers need to make money somehow so they coach and power level. grow up and mind your own damn business
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On August 06 2011 00:30 Chill wrote: Do you have any proof? Hopefully he reads this and immediately stops/
I've seen him do it multiple times on his stream. I'm not sure if he keeps vods, but if he does they're there (somewhere.. Lol someone may be able to point you more specifically :D )
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i KNEW you'd get pay back for cannon rushing me on taldarim! :D hahaha
as far as the topic goes, it's obviously not moral on both parties (guy who wants it, guy who does it)
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I think it's going on someones account and getting them to high Masters/GM for a fee. Pretty much the same as smurfing, for a fee.
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It is not nearly the same as smurfing lol. But desrow aint the first that has done this thing, so not all blame should be on him=)
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He prefers to play people of lower skill than himself. He has a 50% win rate in the master/gm leagues so enjoys going on gold/plat peoples accounts who pay him to four gate 15 low skilled players per hour. And hey guess what, it buys him half of his lunch. Win win for him.
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Well I remember Select offering something like this a while back and immediately withdrawing the offer because of some reason- I want to say legal issues but I'm not sure (maybe the fact it was a gray area?). However I really don't think that this is the right way to go. Might as well buy a masters account to put as a shiny sticker onto your e-ego, but thats just me.
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