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GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
August 02 2011 05:34 GMT
#121
Stealing a chair is serious business in eSports.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 02 2011 05:35 GMT
#122
On August 02 2011 14:30 katzby wrote:
Yeah I agree with the seats, Jesus Christ. I had a press pass, but I had to stand up even though spectators had taken the seats, I didn't want any trouble so I just watched the games standing up.


I just think you lacked the balls to confront a ravenous seat stealing e-sports fan!
why so 진지해?
lastprobeALIVE
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States975 Posts
August 02 2011 05:38 GMT
#123
i love the sarcasm, "stealing a chair succcccch a big deal." it's not just about the fuckin seats, it's about how he acted.

I never go to reddit or bandwagon or give a shit but honestly this thing has made me sick to my stomach.
when in doubt DT out
Ryden
Profile Joined September 2010
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 05:43:20
August 02 2011 05:41 GMT
#124
I wish you would have had the courage to actually say what you thought about me to my face rather than wait until you got home to write something behind your computer screen, but that's ok.


What? Your apology was fine, but you did not need to include this. Your coming off as 2 sided here, your still being arrogant while saying this, yet you are willing to give him MLG tickets for the next event.

I honestly don't even know who you are, but from what ive read, its not good. Just a suggestion, I would really watch what you say because you seem to speak without thinking and that's losing you more respect than anything.

but I do commend you for making this apology directly to him.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 05:52:23
August 02 2011 05:41 GMT
#125
On August 02 2011 14:38 lastprobeALIVE wrote:
i love the sarcasm, "stealing a chair succcccch a big deal." it's not just about the fuckin seats, it's about how he acted.

I never go to reddit or bandwagon or give a shit but honestly this thing has made me sick to my stomach.

ROFLMAO! I was waiting for something to say "IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE CHAIR!"
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
RoyaleBrainSlug
Profile Joined December 2010
United States295 Posts
August 02 2011 05:42 GMT
#126
Xeris, taking down one troll at a time, people need to stop bashing respected members of the community just because one guy presents his case before another.


To the haters.
Zileas is my Homeboy
jenzebubble
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States183 Posts
August 02 2011 05:42 GMT
#127
On August 02 2011 14:22 Jibba wrote:
Drama is fun, but this is one of the least important bits of drama ever and is really just a continuation of the bandwagon NASL hate. It probably was a dick move. So what? Move on. Are we going to see a thread every time someone cuts you off on the road, or drives on the shoulder during a traffic jam?


Is it a member of this community flipping me the bird while passing me on the shoulder? While they are representing two companies who solicit my money, and the money of this community, almost exclusively? That is a more accurate analogy. Given those caveats, then yes I think that it is appropriate to discuss those events here on Team Liquid

There exists a subset of people who were in the Brood War foreigner scene that believe it is there God given right to monetize StarCraft 2 ahead of anyone else. It's this same sense of entitlement that reared it's ugly head over a fucking seat at MLG. I'm sure the incident was compounded by the frustrating lack of seating at the event. That doesn't discount the fact that Xeris felt, and said, that he was owed that seat because of all the work that he had put into the community.

It's the same sense of entitlement that is ruining NASL. "How dare someone question the product we put out. We put many years of blood, sweat and tears into Brood War! We deserve nothing but praise!" Interestingly, Xeris is involved in/with both the NASL and the above mentioned incident.

I think had Xeris just said, "Hey, I was having a shitty day. I said somethings that I regret and I apologize." the reaction from Reddit would have been much different. Unfortunately for him, he went on a manic, passive-aggressive rant.
"It's like waxing your balls, it hurts like a biiiitch but after they are silky smooth...." -Kennigit
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
August 02 2011 05:43 GMT
#128
On August 02 2011 14:41 Ryden wrote:
Show nested quote +
I wish you would have had the courage to actually say what you thought about me to my face rather than wait until you got home to write something behind your computer screen, but that's ok.


What? Your apology was fine, but you did not need to include this. Your coming off as 2 sided here, your still being arrogant while saying this, yet you are willing to give him MLG tickets for the next event.

I honestly don't even know who you are, but from what ive read, its not good. Just a suggestion, I would really watch what you say because you seem to speak without thinking and that's losing you more respect than anything.

lol. That was directed at another person - the one who sat behind Xeris/VIP seat winner.
#TeamBuLba
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
August 02 2011 05:44 GMT
#129
On August 02 2011 14:41 Ryden wrote:
Show nested quote +
I wish you would have had the courage to actually say what you thought about me to my face rather than wait until you got home to write something behind your computer screen, but that's ok.


What? Your apology was fine, but you did not need to include this. Your coming off as 2 sided here, your still being arrogant while saying this, yet you are willing to give him MLG tickets for the next event.


The guy who wrote the Reddit post is not the guy whose seat was taken. The Reddit post author was one of the ones sitting behind him, whom he referred to in the OP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 05:45:46
August 02 2011 05:45 GMT
#130
On August 02 2011 14:42 jenzebubble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 14:22 Jibba wrote:
Drama is fun, but this is one of the least important bits of drama ever and is really just a continuation of the bandwagon NASL hate. It probably was a dick move. So what? Move on. Are we going to see a thread every time someone cuts you off on the road, or drives on the shoulder during a traffic jam?


Is it a member of this community flipping me the bird while passing me on the shoulder? While they are representing two companies who solicit my money, and the money of this community, almost exclusively? That is a more accurate analogy. Given those caveats, then yes I think that it is appropriate to discuss those events here on Team Liquid

There exists a subset of people who were in the Brood War foreigner scene that believe it is there God given right to monetize StarCraft 2 ahead of anyone else. It's this same sense of entitlement that reared it's ugly head over a fucking seat at MLG. I'm sure the incident was compounded by the frustrating lack of seating at the event. That doesn't discount the fact that Xeris felt, and said, that he was owed that seat because of all the work that he had put into the community.

It's the same sense of entitlement that is ruining NASL. "How dare someone question the product we put out. We put many years of blood, sweat and tears into Brood War! We deserve nothing but praise!" Interestingly, Xeris is involved in/with both the NASL and the above mentioned incident.

I think had Xeris just said, "Hey, I was having a shitty day. I said somethings that I regret and I apologize." the reaction from Reddit would have been much different. Unfortunately for him, he went on a manic, passive-aggressive rant.


Milkis hit me over the head with his rolled up program at MLG Anaheim. What an asshole.
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jenzebubble
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States183 Posts
August 02 2011 05:46 GMT
#131
On August 02 2011 14:45 shindigs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 14:42 jenzebubble wrote:
On August 02 2011 14:22 Jibba wrote:
Drama is fun, but this is one of the least important bits of drama ever and is really just a continuation of the bandwagon NASL hate. It probably was a dick move. So what? Move on. Are we going to see a thread every time someone cuts you off on the road, or drives on the shoulder during a traffic jam?


Is it a member of this community flipping me the bird while passing me on the shoulder? While they are representing two companies who solicit my money, and the money of this community, almost exclusively? That is a more accurate analogy. Given those caveats, then yes I think that it is appropriate to discuss those events here on Team Liquid

There exists a subset of people who were in the Brood War foreigner scene that believe it is there God given right to monetize StarCraft 2 ahead of anyone else. It's this same sense of entitlement that reared it's ugly head over a fucking seat at MLG. I'm sure the incident was compounded by the frustrating lack of seating at the event. That doesn't discount the fact that Xeris felt, and said, that he was owed that seat because of all the work that he had put into the community.

It's the same sense of entitlement that is ruining NASL. "How dare someone question the product we put out. We put many years of blood, sweat and tears into Brood War! We deserve nothing but praise!" Interestingly, Xeris is involved in/with both the NASL and the above mentioned incident.

I think had Xeris just said, "Hey, I was having a shitty day. I said somethings that I regret and I apologize." the reaction from Reddit would have been much different. Unfortunately for him, he went on a manic, passive-aggressive rant.


Milkis hit me over the head with his rolled up program at MLG Anaheim. What an asshole.


I would have defended you, but someone caused me to be unable to attend. They wear douchey aviators and won't let me make out with their girlfriend.

I wonder who that could be.
"It's like waxing your balls, it hurts like a biiiitch but after they are silky smooth...." -Kennigit
Rhymenoceros
Profile Joined September 2010
United States8 Posts
August 02 2011 05:47 GMT
#132
I'm not sure I'm buying the PR spin on this.

The Reddit thread is nonsense blasphemy, but the guy who has a REASON to twist the story is wholeheartedly believed? What, did people think he was going to come on here and bash the kid who tried to get his seat back? Let's not be so naive please.

Not to say that Xeris meant to offended anyone or whatever, but to claim there are two sides to every story and then push the negative one aside as nothing more than e-fame /b/-inspired hate is a bit hypocritical.

The guy who RE-POSTED, the story did it because he was legitimately bothered by the behavior he saw and read about. It wasn't for some gain outside of that.

At the end of the day it's likely a combination of some bad decision making and a lot of miscommunication that made it a bigger deal than necessary. But it bothers me to at least not place some accountability on people's actions and to give them a free pass because they posted a story that paints themselves as a fun going jokester.
bradfield
Profile Joined April 2011
Belize23 Posts
August 02 2011 05:51 GMT
#133
It's not about being important or VIP, it's about being respectful. Yeah MLG was crowed, it was hard to find a seat, lots of confusion (when everything is calm it's very easy to be a nice fella.) and that was exactly why everyone should be even more respectful and careful to no act act like a douche bag, and even more careful if you consider yourself someone "important". Even if the guys didn't have any right to be seated on the front seats, calling them nobodies and throwing them out was not something a man would do.
We see a man's worth when things are heated up and not when he is home, at his pretty computer writing an apology so he can look good to the community and fans, and then everyone is Ok again and make jokes about it.
But yeah, everything is Ok. Not much of a big thing, no harm done, expect for the guys who lost their seats.
Didn't mean to write a big post, all I really wanted to say is if that guy had stolen MY seat I'd simply say Come at me bro! and things would get nasty. Those guys were nice peaceful dudes, but you never know, maybe the next guy you try to screw up is some fucked up dude. Be carfeul.
quote?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 06:02:45
August 02 2011 05:53 GMT
#134
On August 02 2011 13:41 Jaxtyk wrote:
Amazed at how much hate Xeries is getting.


You reap what you sow. I read both reddit threads and it sounds like acted like a big time asshole.
Truthful
Profile Joined January 2011
United States38 Posts
August 02 2011 05:59 GMT
#135
I wish you would have had the courage to actually say what you thought about me to my face rather than wait until you got home to write something behind your computer screen, but that's ok.


taking a cheap shot like that during an "apology" is a d-bag move.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 02 2011 06:01 GMT
#136
On August 02 2011 14:45 shindigs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 14:42 jenzebubble wrote:
On August 02 2011 14:22 Jibba wrote:
Drama is fun, but this is one of the least important bits of drama ever and is really just a continuation of the bandwagon NASL hate. It probably was a dick move. So what? Move on. Are we going to see a thread every time someone cuts you off on the road, or drives on the shoulder during a traffic jam?


Is it a member of this community flipping me the bird while passing me on the shoulder? While they are representing two companies who solicit my money, and the money of this community, almost exclusively? That is a more accurate analogy. Given those caveats, then yes I think that it is appropriate to discuss those events here on Team Liquid

There exists a subset of people who were in the Brood War foreigner scene that believe it is there God given right to monetize StarCraft 2 ahead of anyone else. It's this same sense of entitlement that reared it's ugly head over a fucking seat at MLG. I'm sure the incident was compounded by the frustrating lack of seating at the event. That doesn't discount the fact that Xeris felt, and said, that he was owed that seat because of all the work that he had put into the community.

It's the same sense of entitlement that is ruining NASL. "How dare someone question the product we put out. We put many years of blood, sweat and tears into Brood War! We deserve nothing but praise!" Interestingly, Xeris is involved in/with both the NASL and the above mentioned incident.

I think had Xeris just said, "Hey, I was having a shitty day. I said somethings that I regret and I apologize." the reaction from Reddit would have been much different. Unfortunately for him, he went on a manic, passive-aggressive rant.


Milkis hit me over the head with his rolled up program at MLG Anaheim. What an asshole.


You kept stealing my nose
lastprobeALIVE
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States975 Posts
August 02 2011 06:02 GMT
#137
lol he's going to wake up to fnactic sponsors bitching him out again.

Apology for his apology?
when in doubt DT out
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 06:08:29
August 02 2011 06:03 GMT
#138
Xeris legacy will forever be tainted now as the MLG Anaheim chair stealer! Years and years of dedication and hardwork for the sc community goes up in smoke in a single heartless act of selfish elitistness!

LOL

my how far we've come. I think back to wcg 2008 when there were 5 people watching 8 players play in the biggest broodwar lan in the usa (wcg usa finals)

edit; all joking aside I really do feel kind of bad about this, I hope nobody gets the wrong impression of Xeris, someone who's dedicated an insane amount of work into helping grow and provide for the community for well over half a decade now, probably the best tournament organizer you'd find anywhere too. He's done SO much work...CSL/NASL/running light/managing fnatic and everything else...One misunderstanding during a very long and tiring weekend shouldn't change peoples opinions of Duran, we literally wouldn't have had NASL without him.
Necrosjef_
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8 Posts
August 02 2011 06:05 GMT
#139
The whole reason people post on reddit is because the censorship here doesn't allow for different opinions. Which is fine. If someone had complained here about Xeris stealing seats well...we all know how that would end.
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 06:17:28
August 02 2011 06:05 GMT
#140
You guys are such vaginas. He makes a little apology and everyone rides his dick....

Yeah its only seats but these guys won them as a contest and he took that away from them. I would be pissed as hell, god I hate fanboys

I wish you would have had the courage to actually say what you thought about me to my face rather than wait until you got home to write something behind your computer screen, but that's ok.


God this guy is a joke. I still think Xeris comes off like a douchebag and personally I can care less what you've done for the community or who you are. If you act like a dick then thats all you are to me. I've met a couple of inflated egos already in this scene and I feel the same way about them all.

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