• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:31
CEST 07:31
KST 14:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0
Community News
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)60Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition285.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 154
StarCraft 2
General
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive
Brood War
General
Whose hotkey signature is this? Any rep analyzer that shows resources situation? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I'm making videos again
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Siegecraft - a new perspective TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Stop the Construction YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1142 users

Columbus' LR thread had 2x the views as Anaheim's - Page 2

Blogs > asdd
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14023 Posts
August 01 2011 03:53 GMT
#21
They just didn't have the matchups I think that columbus had. It grew well which is really nice all the same but it just wasn't as good of an event as before.

Still Steady great MLG though a lot of other ESPORTS.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 01 2011 03:57 GMT
#22
It wasn't a badly run event, it was smooth as silk for me apart from my suspicion that something with the stream causes it to leak bandwidth if you changed some stuff. It's probably because it was just koreans smashing every single foreigner into the ground, and a lot of blue flame hellions. Even huge worker BBQ's can only do so much for TvTvTvTvTvZ =/
Porouscloud - NA LoL
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 04:09:44
August 01 2011 04:09 GMT
#23
On August 01 2011 12:39 Dalguno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 12:36 DyEnasTy wrote:
Ya, I usually dont leave my screen when MLG is on. But I personally dont enjoy watching koreans face stomp everyone else. Foreign fanboy for life.


I was at this MLG. Watched all the games avidly. But once we saw that the finals were going to be all Koreans, we left at 2 instead of staying until 7 to watch the games and saved a night at the hotel and drove home instead.



amen my friend.

glad to hear some sanity for a change.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
August 01 2011 04:22 GMT
#24
have to take into acccount that mlg had the stream issue so obviously everyone went onto tl to rage = more posts and views
i be that pretty motherfucker
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 01 2011 04:49 GMT
#25
I watched the whole Colombus event but this week end I only watched a handful of games. To be honest I prefer watching kr vs. kr matches like the ones in GSL and Korean Weekly. Koreans own white dudes and it's getting old.
o choro é livre
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 01 2011 04:57 GMT
#26
lack of foreigners

too much tvt

the pool system was flawed. having guys like inc/idra/drewbie getting their shit stomped on wasn't pretty for me since i was rooting for those guys.
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
August 01 2011 04:58 GMT
#27
On August 01 2011 12:35 Whole wrote:
So many TvTs, EVO, no foreigners. Adds less interest to the tournament.


This is basically why I didn't watch the finals.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 05:18:37
August 01 2011 05:16 GMT
#28
People leaving because there were no foreigners left sounds pretty god damn stupid to me. I mean, you have boxer rolling face in the groups, and then you have MVP vs. DRG, then MMA vs. DRG rematch which was amazing, and then Ganzi vs. MMA, then Boxer vs. MMA in master vs. disciple showdown which was a fucking incredible series, and then MMA vs. MVP rematch of the two best terrans at MLG.

Sc2 fans should like all the games regardless of country and just leaving because some guy who works less than someone else didn't make it doesn't sound like someone who's a real fan of the game. Just my criticism.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
August 01 2011 05:20 GMT
#29
My internet died halfway through Day 2 and only got fixed after everything was already over, FML.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 05:30:14
August 01 2011 05:21 GMT
#30
there were more problems at Columbus which generated the higher number of views & posts

Losira's keyboard screwing up

constant lag due to people on bnet messaging players

inconsistent and unknown schedule

MLG Anaheim practically went 100% smoothly. people can complain about downtime but MLG Anaheim operated on a specified schedule and mostly stuck to it.

to prove my point, using your stats as a comparison

Columbus had 28,621 posts and 2,369,688 views while Anaheim had 15,307 posts and 962,046 views


MLG Dallas 2011 had the following

Day 1: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207500 - 10,031 posts & 1,010,773

Day 2: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208064 - 11,444 posts & 1,296,535

Day 3: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208442 - 18,644 posts & 1,882,184 views

total values: 40,119 posts & 4,189,492

only reason why MLG Dallas 2011 had such higher numbers was because the event was such utter shit

MLG Anaheim was better than MLG Columbus no matter what kinds of theories people want to make up about people not wanting to watch Koreans dominate
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 05:22:41
August 01 2011 05:22 GMT
#31
Too much TvT, I couldn't care less about the amount of foreigners in this MLG. But there was just too many TvT's for me.

Not MLG's fault
Definetly not the players fault.

I absolutely loved every SlayerS TvZ though, thats BFH style with rine drop and the +1 timing stim followup was just fun to watch and I would stay up if DRG was in the finals, but he got knocked out.

Needed some more korean zergs/Protoss imo but ow well can't have it all.

Ow yeah, the stream problems over at columbus and the keyboard problems were reasons for spamming.
WriterXiao8~~
accordion
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada58 Posts
August 01 2011 06:01 GMT
#32
EVO was so hype that I just turned off MLG due to commercials with insane volume + too many breaks.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 01 2011 06:14 GMT
#33
This Anaheim don't have that big "incident" that caused the LR thread to jump though.

Colombus we had the IdrA-MMA gg moment that must have caused everyone who heard it to check the LR thread to see people's reaction. The thread jumped about a 100 pages in a few minutes ( maybe 10) because of that. Also, the thread got split between Red and Blue which further discourage discussion.

And it is just the way it is with LR thread. People get used to it and don't bother participating in the LR anymore because F5-ing distract you from the actual experience. GSL thread views and posts also decrease a lot since the early days. The smoother the viewing experience is, the lesser the need to participate in the LR threads unless something mindblowing happens.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 01 2011 06:20 GMT
#34
On August 01 2011 15:14 dtz wrote:
This Anaheim don't have that big "incident" that caused the LR thread to jump though.

Colombus we had the IdrA-MMA gg moment that must have caused everyone who heard it to check the LR thread to see people's reaction. The thread jumped about a 100 pages in a few minutes ( maybe 10) because of that. Also, the thread got split between Red and Blue which further discourage discussion.

And it is just the way it is with LR thread. People get used to it and don't bother participating in the LR anymore because F5-ing distract you from the actual experience. GSL thread views and posts also decrease a lot since the early days. The smoother the viewing experience is, the lesser the need to participate in the LR threads unless something mindblowing happens.


Agreed, less drama during this MLG. The IdrA/MMA games combined with IdrA/MC games instantly added 50-100 pages worth of comments on the LR thread. This MLG lacked such drama.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 06:26:15
August 01 2011 06:23 GMT
#35
On August 01 2011 14:21 udgnim wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

there were more problems at Columbus which generated the higher number of views & posts

Losira's keyboard screwing up

constant lag due to people on bnet messaging players

inconsistent and unknown schedule

MLG Anaheim practically went 100% smoothly. people can complain about downtime but MLG Anaheim operated on a specified schedule and mostly stuck to it.

to prove my point, using your stats as a comparison

Columbus had 28,621 posts and 2,369,688 views while Anaheim had 15,307 posts and 962,046 views


MLG Dallas 2011 had the following

Day 1: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207500 - 10,031 posts & 1,010,773

Day 2: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208064 - 11,444 posts & 1,296,535

Day 3: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208442 - 18,644 posts & 1,882,184 views

total values: 40,119 posts & 4,189,492

only reason why MLG Dallas 2011 had such higher numbers was because the event was such utter shit

MLG Anaheim was better than MLG Columbus no matter what kinds of theories people want to make up about people not wanting to watch Koreans dominate

Yep, people are just crazy if they don't think this MLG was better, and I don't know why you'd go to the amount of posts in the LR thread over just the amount of viewers this MLG received. Not much "drama" but there was a lot of fun stuff going on throughout, and the storylines of the matchups were 10x better. Boxer and Rain chatting about how they couldn't attack each other, then also Boxer telling MMA to win it all into a gg. The games were a lot of fun.
ryan1894
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia264 Posts
August 01 2011 06:34 GMT
#36
I think its because they disabled MLG pass people from watching both red and blue at the same time...

Also the crowd wasnt annoying enough.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
August 01 2011 06:47 GMT
#37
I thought it was obvious that there was more "drama" or hype from columbus that people talked about

-People discussed pages and pages of idrA beating MC on the opening games, followed by MC saying he would never lose to idrA if he was at 100% (jetlagged). Then he did the throat slash and idrA flicked him off. Even fate had it so that MC would face idrA again and even with extended series MC beat him.

-idrA premature gg after MMA destroyed his own command center when he was probably going to win.

-MC just being the best entertainer and hyping up every game he's in, like announcing that naniwa was the best protoss foreigner and their matches would determine who the best protoss in the world is. Naniwa dancing the zealots but ended up losing...

So I don't think the size of the LR thread reflects the amount of viewers.
you live and you learn
Dice17
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
August 01 2011 06:48 GMT
#38
Not sure if thats true I went to mlg today and a man came on stage and told us that the bar had been set higher for mlg from 22million unique views at Columbus to over 30million in anaheim
GamaBear #1 Fan! Sen fighting~
foobahz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
China68 Posts
August 01 2011 07:13 GMT
#39
have zilch interest in watching non-protoss games, and the only good protoss player there was huk so yeah didnt watch many games
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
August 01 2011 09:03 GMT
#40
On August 01 2011 12:51 red4ce wrote:
In Columbus people still honestly believed foreigners could beat Koreans.

I think that's partially responsible. I didn't really watch much of this MLG because the results seemed more certain and the games definitely felt more one-sided and lacked the suspense of games from past tournaments for sure.

Also, I think SC2's fandom has diminished slightly, though it is still very big.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft747
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 1416
Icarus 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 5
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm144
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K920
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor146
Other Games
summit1g9264
Mew2King84
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick728
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Light_VIP 20
• Freeedom6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler22
League of Legends
• Scarra2844
• Lourlo1105
• Stunt372
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 29m
Map Test Tournament
5h 29m
Zoun vs Spirit
Reynor vs herO
Clem vs MaxPax
OSC
6h 29m
IPSL
13h 29m
Bonyth vs Art_Of_Turtle
Razz vs rasowy
Afreeca Starleague
1d 4h
Barracks vs Snow
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Bisu
OSC
2 days
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
4 days
OSC
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Safe House 2
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
WardiTV TLMC #15
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.