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After observing TL for a little while I've come to some conclusions about what really grinds my gears. This means you, person reading the blog. So here's some things that I feel that if they stopped happening as often, TL would be a much happier place.
1. People who take the blog section as literally a place for them to make a blog. No, it really isn't. I don't want to know about your rigorous training exercises to reach mid-Bronze in SC2, I don't want to hear about your homework problems, and I definitely do not need to know about what you're listening to while you take what you think is the biggest shit in the world. Especially when I am eating. The blog section has always been one of the... weaker sections of TL, but I like to have things to read while I personally am taking a shit, and I can tell you right now I have far more interest in reading some middle schooler have angsty issues over his first crush that he may or may not have made up than I do in hearing what you're planning to do to go from person that barely knows how to click a mouse to Code S. Now, if you actually have results, that's a bit different. But if everybody made a blog about how they got promoted to Silver or Platinum or Super 1337 Haxor Grand Dragon, I can almost certainly guarantee that the blog section will be totally overrun. So before you make a non-committal blog that's nothing more than a giant attempt to be an attention whore, ask yourself: would I appreciate it if 100 people made a similar blog? If the answer is no, you're probably going to piss me off if you post it.
2. People posting disgusting crap in the general discussion thread. No, I don't want to see how much puke a drunk guy is throwing up, especially if its 10am on a Monday and I'm browsing TL while I'm at work. You can post about incidents and disasters and what not, but I don't want to click on the thread and be greeted with blood spurting out of a decapitated body. Therefore, I ask those of you that do this sort of thing: before you post something like that again, ask yourself if it is either lunch time or dinner time anywhere in the world (or at least in the United States). If it is, please reconsider your decision. I don't want that picture to be what will happen to you if you spoil my appetite again.
3. "Economics"/Politics/Religion "Debate"(in the most liberal sense of the word, even more liberal than people slogging their own feces at one another) threads. Yes, this means you, Ron Paul fan, freshman university student, person that has looked up "Political Science" on Wikipedia, or Youtube celebrity. I don't care how many people agree with you (unless they are people with letters after their name), I don't care what books or essays with inherent biases you've read, I don't care if you think it's the most obvious idea in the world that the Federal Reserve or the US Government or the European Union or the Illuminati or the Death Eaters or the greedy rich people are destroying the world, but unless you've actually rigorously studied the issue, I just don't care about your opinion. I respect everybody's right to their own opinion, but my opinion is that you have no right to your opinion. Now, if you were having peaceful, reasoned debates, where your minds are open to reason and to each other, that's fine, but since I've long tolerated people trying to have peaceful reasoned debates only to watch them turn into poop-hurling fests you guys have lost that privilege. If you want to circlejerk about your own ideas or start your own damn revolution, there's places for you on the internet. This is a place full of people with different opinions, and I will guarantee you that 99% of the time your opinion is fucking wrong.
4. People who don't read other peoples' posts before responding. I don't care if there are 85 pages in the damn thread, in fact the more pages there are the higher the chance that somebody has already said what you want to say, only to be shut down promptly. I'm not asking you to perform a full damn analysis on each post, just skim through, or ffs use the damn search engine before you post. Because if all you're doing is echoing what someone has already said, you're just as bad as the spambots that post shit like "Ooh very interesting this is helpful thank you." You're worse, though, because human brains take orders of magnitude more than 6 lines of code to program properly.
5. Incomplete lists.
 
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5 of fucking 5 stars. I sacrifice my 250th post to you sir.
Especially point 1 and 3 make me cringe.
Edit: To poster below:
About 1.
If such a thread would appear in any other section than "Blogs", it would immediately get closed. But it hurts my heart to see such a post in the Blogs section and no one writes an answer or feedback because you just CAN'T make feedback on such a post except for stupid one-liners like "good luck", or "Welcome to SC2" and else...
You will probably notice that posts like those usually get 1 star, except when it's a clever and thought out post.
But we finally, we just have to accept it...
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point 1: the point of the TL blogs is to be a blog section, not what you think it should be. it is an excellent solution to keep many posters from shitting up the other forums. if you don't want to hear about other people's lives, don't read their blogs. there are many people on here who do enjoy it.
point 2: how do you even manage to click on that stuff? it's either not allowed on TL, or must be marked appropriately, meaning you've been thoroughly warned. clicking on it is your fault.
point 3: again, don't read them. the debate threads are actually informative for someone who isn't too familiar with whatever is being discussed. TL already does a good job moderating and banning idiots, but yes, there are still idiots in those threads. just ignore them.
point 4: i agree
point 5: i agree
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On July 27 2011 02:37 ieatkids5 wrote:
point 1: the point of the TL blogs is to be a blog section, not what you think it should be. it is an excellent solution to keep many posters from shitting up the other forums. if you don't want to hear about other people's lives, don't read their blogs. there are many people on here who do enjoy it.
point 2: how do you even manage to click on that stuff? it's either not allowed on TL, or must be marked appropriately, meaning you've been thoroughly warned. clicking on it is your fault.
point 3: again, don't read them. the debate threads are actually informative for someone who isn't too familiar with whatever is being discussed. TL already does a good job moderating and banning idiots, but yes, there are still idiots in those threads. just ignore them.
point 4: i agree
point 5: i agree
regarding your counter points:
1: There's a difference between a blog and a twitter/facebook. TL is not your status page.
2. I was using that as a figurative example. People say things like "warning" etc. and etc. but if nobody should see it why are they even posting it?
3. They really aren't, though. If two people with the wrong idea are arguing about something, a third party listens to the "debate" and comes to the conclusion that one of them must be right, even though they are both wrong, and it is far harder to displace an old idea than to add a new one.
4 & 5.
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Caller the baller. Huehuehuehue.
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All too true, and well-put!
Also:
I don't care how many people agree with you (unless they are people with letters after their name)
Going to steal this line. Very nice.
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I guess you didn't like my "I hate my beard" blog, then. 
tbh I only posted the one about my new car to be an attention whore, cause I had no one local to show it off and brag about it to.
I'M SORRY FOR RUINING TL T_____T
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On July 27 2011 02:55 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 02:37 ieatkids5 wrote:
point 1: the point of the TL blogs is to be a blog section, not what you think it should be. it is an excellent solution to keep many posters from shitting up the other forums. if you don't want to hear about other people's lives, don't read their blogs. there are many people on here who do enjoy it.
point 2: how do you even manage to click on that stuff? it's either not allowed on TL, or must be marked appropriately, meaning you've been thoroughly warned. clicking on it is your fault.
point 3: again, don't read them. the debate threads are actually informative for someone who isn't too familiar with whatever is being discussed. TL already does a good job moderating and banning idiots, but yes, there are still idiots in those threads. just ignore them.
point 4: i agree
point 5: i agree regarding your counter points: 1: There's a difference between a blog and a twitter/facebook. TL is not your status page. 2. I was using that as a figurative example. People say things like "warning" etc. and etc. but if nobody should see it why are they even posting it? 3. They really aren't, though. If two people with the wrong idea are arguing about something, a third party listens to the "debate" and comes to the conclusion that one of them must be right, even though they are both wrong, and it is far harder to displace an old idea than to add a new one. 4 & 5.
1. Those blogs solve their own problem. If no one likes them, they won't comment on them and get pushed to the next page. If they're really bad, they get closed.
2. because many people do want to see certain pictures or whatnot. it's just some people who don't, and they don't have to ruin the fun for everyone else..
3. i still think they're useful. just because a lot of crappy ideas and viewpoints get thrown around doesn't mean they're not useful. i come in, read everything, make sense of it all, reconsider my own opinion, and believe whatever i want to believe. it's useful to know how other people think, what they value, what principles they have. so when i go out there and actually talk to people about these topics, i have a well rounded view of what people out there believe, i have my own view (which is the right one of course), and i am prepared to answer and defend my view if it is appropriate.
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1) You are wrong. The blog section is for blogs. While I agree that SC2-related blogs are a bit cliche at this point, you can easily skip those by just skimming the blog titles.
2) Most of the time people will spoiler those sections and warn you what you are getting into. TL is actually pretty good about that kind of thing.
3) You're fucking spoiled if you think TL's debate threads are "poop-hurling fests". Literally every other forum on the internet is worse in that respect. TL has some of the most intelligent posters I've ever read on the internet.
4) This is the only one of your points I can agree with.
Basically, you need to go read Something Awful, League of Legends forums, or basically any other forum on the web and then come back here and complain about TL's post quality.
1/5
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On July 27 2011 02:26 Caller wrote:
3. "Economics"/Politics/Religion "Debate"(in the most liberal sense of the word, even more liberal than people slogging their own feces at one another) threads. Yes, this means you, Ron Paul fan, freshman university student, person that has looked up "Political Science" on Wikipedia, or Youtube celebrity. I don't care how many people agree with you (unless they are people with letters after their name), I don't care what books or essays with inherent biases you've read, I don't care if you think it's the most obvious idea in the world that the Federal Reserve or the US Government or the European Union or the Illuminati or the Death Eaters or the greedy rich people are destroying the world, but unless you've actually rigorously studied the issue, I just don't care about your opinion. I respect everybody's right to their own opinion, but my opinion is that you have no right to your opinion. Now, if you were having peaceful, reasoned debates, where your minds are open to reason and to each other, that's fine, but since I've long tolerated people trying to have peaceful reasoned debates only to watch them turn into poop-hurling fests you guys have lost that privilege. If you want to circlejerk about your own ideas or start your own damn revolution, there's places for you on the internet. This is a place full of people with different opinions, and I will guarantee you that 99% of the time your opinion is fucking wrong.
I get that this is a rant blog but really? Seems a little harsh in my opinion.
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5/5
NOT because I agree with everything you said. I at least think the blog section should be pretty liberal in terms of content, even if you don't agree with it. It is one of the most lively sub-forums here in TL and produces many many interesting reads. Bad blogs - just skim and skip the comments. Good blogs - read it carefully, participate in the poll and on-going discussion, check back for updates!
YES because I agree with most of the other points. I hate "debates" when people post "lulz you suxx0rz", trim quotes to contort someone else's arguments, make controversial posts against their own opinion (sometimes all within one post), post opinions about the wrong issue when the original post was intended elsewise (see TLO's recent blog), and others. Some trolls are fun to have because they provide entertainment. Many more trolls are simply irritating and provide no entertainment, and proceed to destroy the thread for others by increasing reply counts (makes it hard for newcomers to read up the entire thread) without any meaningful content.
... I swear, if I had a banhammer for the next hour, I'd go to that TLO blog and ban at least 1/3 of the dumbfucks there.
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I don't get why people complain about something without offering a solution. What, in your opinion, is the blog section supposed to be for? Maybe my feeble mind can't understand, but you don't seem to leave a lot of options for blogs.
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On July 27 2011 04:48 Frozenhelfire wrote:
I don't get why people complain about something without offering a solution. What, in your opinion, is the blog section supposed to be for? Maybe my feeble mind can't understand, but you don't seem to leave a lot of options for blogs.
Obviously it should be for rageblogs about the state of discourse on an internet forum.
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Caller,
I fucking miss you. Amen brother.
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I just don't read the blogs that I don't like (some are similar to the ones you name).
Seems to work out, but hey, if you let off steam, I'm not going to fight you :3
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3 is so fucking true. 5 starred.
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I pretty much full on agree with points 1-3. I mean, the US debt thread just makes me cry. Seriously.
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3 is too true. I really want to learn more about various issues, but the kind of posts you get in those debate threads are terrible. People really need to understand that the few facts and figures you learn from high school does not provide you with a sophisticated understanding of world issues.
5/5
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Right there with you. Particularly the whole General Forum thing. The worst part if when the OP decides to put together a clearly biased, one-side diatribe, attempting to claim recruits for some crusade they feel is worthy of others attention.
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