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LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 23:55:21
July 10 2011 22:55 GMT
#1
There was hype. A lot of it, in fact maybe a bit too much, as InControl's announcement of an announcement was infact an announcement of a new starcraft league, the North American Star League. I was super hyped up and excited about it, talked to my buddies about this new league, posted on TL about it, blah blah blah whatever.

Then, week one happened.
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This picture sums up week one

It was a disaster, not yet a complete one but it was enough to drive away over 20k viewers to spread out into the IPL and the other leagues that run pretty much at the same time (GJ IPN! Great league!). But, slowly the NASL was rising from the ashes of week one, fixing this and that, inviting guess casters (i loved the idra casts). The matches each day were fresh, exciting, and fun to watch because of the high level play that each match contained and the casters doing their job of analyzing, explaining, and shoutcasting the whole match.

Now nine weeks later its the NASL FINALS YEAAAAAAAA-----------
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The NASL finals.

AND THE MATCHES ARE BETTER THAN EVER! WITH MC, BOXER, SEN (<3 to you sen) PUMA ALIVE DARKFORCE JULY MOON SELECT RET SQUIRTLE SHETH HASUOBS ZENIO AND WHITE.RA, I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OTHER TOURNAMENT CAN TOP THIS LINEUP OF STARS!
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Sorry for the caps, I can't emphasize how much I love the NASL


Sure, there were some screwups with the audio on day one, wrong maps, but right now with everything fixed, this is the best SC2 tournament i have ever watched!

NASL. You guys are ballers. Complete. Ballers. Please, don't stop doing what you are doing, because whatever the hell you guys are doing, it is magic.


Dont look if you dont want to be spoiled about the finals.
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PUMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


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xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 23:05:02
July 10 2011 23:03 GMT
#2
the games made up for their errors like the overly long intros and interviews. but next season, they have to improve especially with MLG and GSL acting as comparisons. but you know what, not all that bad
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
July 10 2011 23:04 GMT
#3
I'd argue that the quality of the games is due to the fantastic players, not the NASL. That said, I think that the NASL has had a good season, despite all the hate it gets.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 23:06:59
July 10 2011 23:06 GMT
#4
Yeah, i have hope in the NASL, too bad InControl is leaving NASL, T.T

78K VIEWERS LETS KEEP GOING!
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 23:08:18
July 10 2011 23:06 GMT
#5
Matches haven't been that good IMO. There have been maybe 3 or 4 good series out of 16.

DEFINITELY not the best tournament I've ever watched in terms of games or production. Not a complete train wreck though.

On July 11 2011 08:04 NuclearJudas wrote:
I'd argue that the quality of the games is due to the fantastic players, not the NASL. That said, I think that the NASL has had a good season, despite all the hate it gets.


PS: What? How could it be any different, rofl. But NASL got the players together.
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
July 10 2011 23:09 GMT
#6
On July 11 2011 08:06 Complete wrote:
Matches haven't been that good IMO. There have been maybe 3 or 4 good series out of 16.

DEFINITELY not the best tournament I've ever watched in terms of games or production. Not a complete train wreck though.

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On July 11 2011 08:04 NuclearJudas wrote:
I'd argue that the quality of the games is due to the fantastic players, not the NASL. That said, I think that the NASL has had a good season, despite all the hate it gets.


PS: What? How could it be any different, rofl. But NASL got the players together.


Yeah, i think that the players separate the NASL from all the other leagues
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 10 2011 23:12 GMT
#7
i think if the finals proves anything its that you cant match a live event in terms of magic, feeling and excitement. the 10 week online event seems like a bit waste of time in comparison
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
July 10 2011 23:14 GMT
#8
80k viewers mang the best.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
July 10 2011 23:16 GMT
#9
On July 11 2011 08:14 Monokeros wrote:
80k viewers mang the best.


we should go and break DH's record of 84k viewers!
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
July 10 2011 23:21 GMT
#10
NASL just got lucky that MC and Puma are playing some excellent games.

I still think its kinda ridiculous how Puma played for 3 days in the open tourney while everyone else grinded this whole crappy tourney for 3 months.
Great pasta mom, very Korean. Even my crown leans to the side. Gangsta. --------->
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
July 10 2011 23:31 GMT
#11
On July 11 2011 08:21 CurLy[] wrote:
NASL just got lucky that MC and Puma are playing some excellent games.

I still think its kinda ridiculous how Puma played for 3 days in the open tourney while everyone else grinded this whole crappy tourney for 3 months.


Realize that Puma had to go from ro1024 to the finals. That is 9 rounds in 3 days when the rest of the pros play 1 round each week.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
July 10 2011 23:36 GMT
#12
I found all of NASL great until the bumpy finals but all is rainbows and butterflies as they have greatly improved.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
July 10 2011 23:50 GMT
#13
PUMA, PUMA, PUMA
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
July 10 2011 23:53 GMT
#14
On July 11 2011 08:31 LanTAs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 08:21 CurLy[] wrote:
NASL just got lucky that MC and Puma are playing some excellent games.

I still think its kinda ridiculous how Puma played for 3 days in the open tourney while everyone else grinded this whole crappy tourney for 3 months.


Realize that Puma had to go from ro1024 to the finals. That is 9 rounds in 3 days when the rest of the pros play 1 round each week.


128, 7 rounds, actually.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 10 2011 23:56 GMT
#15
Just because the matches are good doesn't mean that the production value outside of the actual matches was good.
WriterXiao8~~
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
July 10 2011 23:58 GMT
#16
On July 11 2011 08:53 Complete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 08:31 LanTAs wrote:
On July 11 2011 08:21 CurLy[] wrote:
NASL just got lucky that MC and Puma are playing some excellent games.

I still think its kinda ridiculous how Puma played for 3 days in the open tourney while everyone else grinded this whole crappy tourney for 3 months.


Realize that Puma had to go from ro1024 to the finals. That is 9 rounds in 3 days when the rest of the pros play 1 round each week.


128, 7 rounds, actually.


Oh, its a 256, so 8 rounds, my bad, with 1024 players
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
July 10 2011 23:58 GMT
#17
I would have to disagree. I think the NASL should just cut out the season entirely and instead do like 4 qualifiers in order to play in the finals. Cast the qualifiers, but the season was way too long.

Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 00:11:19
July 11 2011 00:09 GMT
#18
http://twitter.com/#!/OrangeMilkis/status/90209312147914752 trU

Until outro of NASL.
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
July 11 2011 00:18 GMT
#19
Well I was facepalming at NASL a lot, but the games at final really lifted all my doubts. Although cant forget those 20 minute intros and CONSTANT audio problems, since minute one up to the last minute of the event.
oh, hai
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 11 2011 00:21 GMT
#20
The problems with the NASL and the game quality of the NASL are two completely different things.

The problems with NASL was the long breaks and the crazy long intros and production issues...most of which got worked out, but you can't say that "player A and player B had a crappy game" and blame the NASL for it. :p
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
July 11 2011 00:21 GMT
#21
waiting like an hour between each game was a real big pain. i hope they won't do this next season.
stOrpse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States175 Posts
July 11 2011 00:22 GMT
#22
This shows that having fantastic games and players is always > production quality
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
July 11 2011 00:25 GMT
#23
On July 11 2011 09:22 Q(-_-Q wrote:
This shows that having fantastic games and players is always > production quality

its too true, but then NASL listens to their criticism :D

They still shoulda fixed the sound
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
July 11 2011 00:32 GMT
#24
dont forget lindsey
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
July 11 2011 01:14 GMT
#25
On July 11 2011 09:32 stork4ever wrote:
dont forget lindsey


Excellent!
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 11 2011 01:16 GMT
#26
I really found the execution of everything from nasl's side of what they could control to be rather unsatisfactory. The fact that they had great finals had nothing to do with them, I really hope they take ALL the feedback into consideration from this season. They have A LOT they could improve, and I hope they do!
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
July 11 2011 01:58 GMT
#27
Kind of a shame that GSL has great production quality but often terrible Code S finals, yet NASL with some pretty terrible cock-ups in terms of production and one of the most intense finals for a long time (somehow it reminded me so much of TSL3, Terran underdog ThorZain/Puma vs Protoss goliath Naniwa/MC).

Roll on Season 2, it can only get much, much better!
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