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I have been instructed several times that if I want a personal rift to be expressed on teamliquid that I must post it in the blog section. This one is short, sweet, and a good lulz, nothing really personal except for the declaration (and if needed proof) that iCCup:BW are a bunch of lying scum.
Here we go: http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/content/news/isl1_replays.html
"Keep in mind, that iCCup events and their replays will always be free, forever! We are in the process of planning awesome new tournaments and leagues, (including the iCCup Nation Wars, which is now underway) so you can expect a lot more to come in the near-future!"
Thank you for trying to work in a claim that anyone that currently works for iCCup had any hand in helping ISL. This is not true. In fact, 3 of the 6 major contributors workwise to ISL are IPBanned from iCCup. Fact is, no one on the current staff had anything to do with ISL, and under no circumstance would you be part of any successful events staff. iCCup has again and again failed to produce anything productive post-nOoNe as Head Admin of iCCup. Remember iCCup Attack? None of you. Remember when you guys actually had more than 40 viewer casts? None of you. (That one is super ironic because their first 40+ viewer cast since was today casting my clans playoff matches after Sayle - who is IPBanned from iCCup - suggested all of his viewers go watch it because he didn't want to cast anymore) Remember AoV iCCup Starleague? None of you. Speaking of AoV iCCup Starleague and iCCup:BW having nothing to do with it, I like how you guys just voided out the whole "AoV" part of ISL in your news post.
The worst part about it is that you no good lying bottom feeders tried to plug in a soon to be failure event (sorry Tenshi I know you're trying... but stamping iCCup's name on it was instant failure), aka Nation Wars. Not only was iCCup Starleague not an iCCup event, but no iCCup event will ever prosper - just as the fate of the server. It was AoV "iCCup" Starleague because of a favor to iCCup.nOoNe (who then had faith in your laughable server). You see, I had to beg the main sponsor to even incorporate iCCup's name, because he had the same exact thoughts of you that the public now has. Poor guy happened to be right. Naturally, the self-entitlement that was and still seems to be expressed by iCCup staff that had nothing to do with the starleague itself went overboard. Good job trying to bump your events though (lol).
The prerequisite to your treatment at iCCup as a server and a domain:
"Achtung: if you flame in these news comments, you will die near-instantly." - iCCup.nina Head of News
Hey guys, you better not say anything besides we love you and thank you for allowing us mere peons to be graced by your presence - or else!!
The funniest part about all of this is this: You're going to LOVE IT.
"So one of the admins bought the rep pack and re-submitted these for free?" - [KiDCaNaDa]
"lol, no.
iCCup Rules state that iCCup is to receive free replays of every event hosted on The Abyss, so we can offer free Replay Packs for everybody.
So, ISL replays were demanded and received." - iCCup.Paladin Head of iCCup:BW
Fact is, three admins purchased the replay packs, and there was no such rule during ISL. Not to mention, no one demanded anything and you received less than nothing. You received that link and others from iCCup.radrel.
And Paladin, please tell me about your two lovely children. Maybe if you have three more your wife can receive a medal! Oh yeah, and you forgot...
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Enjoy iCCup
P.S
I have no intention of using my administrative link to disrupt the download of those replays and or whatever ones admins decided to pay for and contribute to ISL2 decided to share with ze Reich.
User was temp banned for this post.
 
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First response for any future replies/updates
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Haha I knew once someone released those replays, hell was gonna break loose.
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On July 10 2011 07:38 Musiq wrote:
Haha I knew once someone released those replays, hell was gonna break loose.
Nah not hell, just want all the misinformation to be noted publicly. Summary: iCCup had nothing to do with ISL and are taking credit for it and then lying to people about how they acquired the replays. Notice the "P.S" being that I don't plan on administratively shutting the links down.
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Sorry for not understanding this terribly well but does this mean that iCCup is going down the F'ing pipe?
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ummm. I didn't release the replay pack. Also in terms of the firt nation war. I have spoken to rlm noone about this and we were not able to come to a agreement. Why just assume it was me or even just bring my personal information into it. not that its hidden or anything. But really. You have nothing better to do then lie.
He had assumed it would be friday even though I told him that was unable to happen. Tenshi even sent me a pm saying that if unable to come to full agreement it wasn't a problem that nation wars would be played on the first week.
I even pm'ed noone on thursday asking for sunday evening (this was a random date) and he either ignored the pm or simply thought I would agree to whatever time he set.
My auctual words were" that would be unlikely to happen since not all of my players would be able to attend,"
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I'm an SC2 guy and I can see where you're coming from but that last line about his kids was hella creepy
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On July 10 2011 07:46 IntoTheheart wrote:
Sorry for not understanding this terribly well but does this mean that iCCup is going down the F'ing pipe?
ICCup's been going downhill for quite a while now.
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On July 10 2011 08:00 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 07:46 IntoTheheart wrote:
Sorry for not understanding this terribly well but does this mean that iCCup is going down the F'ing pipe? ICCup's been going downhill for quite a while now.
nOoNe was the only resurgence they had.
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On July 10 2011 08:05 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 08:00 Lumire wrote:On July 10 2011 07:46 IntoTheheart wrote:
Sorry for not understanding this terribly well but does this mean that iCCup is going down the F'ing pipe? ICCup's been going downhill for quite a while now. nOoNe was the only resurgence they had.
^ This... 500x over. nOoNe was the last of the Mohicans. Although, not to take credit away from his staff... he clearly organized things very well. Sayle ran ladder, yeszero and Tenshi did excellent counter abuse, etc.
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On July 10 2011 07:56 Redmark wrote:
I'm an SC2 guy and I can see where you're coming from but that last line about his kids was hella creepy
at some point you just watch the spectacle and grab some popcorn
talking about the iccup vs. all challengers o course, not the kids line *.*
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I never really followed the foreign scene except for TSL2 (I started watching BW shortly before that), so from someone of an outsider perspective I can say that you all just look like a bunch of children. Grats guys.
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Pretty immature move.
Instead of just releasing replays and saying "here you go", there have to be several side-kicks such as "All ISL1 Replays For Free", "Keep in mind, that iCCup events and their replays will always be free, forever!". Totally missing the point why these replays have been sold, as an investment into the 2nd ISL, which has arrived and has $800 more in the prize pool than the original ISL had when it was announced.
It's sad and depressing, alot of recent comments from iCCup looked like pure promotion for themselves, trying to make themselves look alot better.
And I have to 100% agree with the event stuff.
I cannot remember any event besides iCC-CL that actually kept going.
iCCup Attack was great, but it died just as it came.
Before trying to brag numerous times about how they can help people to organize their stuff (after telling about the ISL2 shut down from Game's part, as if they want to tell the sponsor "we can do it"), but then not proving that with one single successful event, how could that attract anyone?
I have no idea.
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Australia7069 Posts
all the more reason for everyone to come on over to fish. where the games are plentiful, the ladder competition is fierce, and the narcissistic admins are non-existant!
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kiante, after ISL2 ladder stage!
Even though, I am only C rank right now, I am already getting tired of the amount of time I have to wait for getting games sometimes.
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Australia7069 Posts
I just moved on. Not like i'd win/qualify for ISL2 anyway 
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I remember iCCup Attack with Shauni.
It was great.
GTFO attention whore money grabber.
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On July 10 2011 10:09 Q(-_-Q wrote:
I remember iCCup Attack with Shauni.
It was great.
GTFO attention whore money grabber.
... You realize me and nOoNe organized iCCup Attack! right? Or that Sayle just started casting during these events? Hence I was the first player of iCCup Attack, and all players from LRM) were the followups? Scan before he was no longer LRM), then LRM)Semih... Ridiculous post by you. Heads up: I also was the one who approved (as the Head of Events for iCCup) Shauni (because he's a TL fan favorite) for the last episode. Thanks for the derailing though.
+ Show Spoiler [Proof] +
Derp.
By the way if you aren't trolling and you just failed to read the OP correctly, I am not talking to the general public with "none of you", I am pointing out no current iCCup staff had a hand in the making or success of any prominent iCCup event. But thank you in any case for pointing out the truth of that statement, seeing how you remember and event from when nOoNe was the Head Admin.
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I was wrong. I apologize. Respect to you sir.
btw is your AKA Gayme?
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On July 10 2011 10:27 Q(-_-Q wrote:
I was wrong. I apologize. Respect to you sir.
btw is your AKA Gayme?
Yes.
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OH! I have a replay of you vs. Gretorp. You were playing Protoss though
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Interesting move by them and I would get on Fish but I hear more about how you get extra bad stuff more than how simple it is to get involved in. On point though those guys really need to think about how people are viewing the way they handle things since it seems like they are super immature and don't like any critiques at all. Sad to see the main foreign BW server going downhill even farther than it already has. :/
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On July 10 2011 10:55 RaLakedaimon wrote:
Interesting move by them and I would get on Fish but I hear more about how you get extra bad stuff more than how simple it is to get involved in. On point though those guys really need to think about how people are viewing the way they handle things since it seems like they are super immature and don't like any critiques at all. Sad to see the main foreign BW server going downhill even farther than it already has. :/
Nah man, they're doing a fine job, cutting off sponsorship possibilities which a hard working bw member came up with is a great idea. Makes the server look great "OH LOOK THIS GUY IS SELLING REPLAYS FOR PERSONAL GAIN" when what is actually happening --> "This guy is selling replays to better the bw community and to explore new avenues of sponsorship since they are getting harder to find, hence iCCup sees an opportunity to slightly modify a story and soon it goes from 10% was going to the helping staff into 100% is going to Game. First, iCCup tries to profit off of it by demanding a royalty, second when they realize they aren't entitled to it whatsoever and that people wont buy this, they switch to the stealing of replays which don't belong to them and in turn giving them away for free just so they can promote themselves as the good guys. They didn't care what it was for, they just wanted to look good."
Now, lets draw a comparison, if someone bought a bunch of replays from kespa and then released them for free on iccup or anywhere else for that matter, do you think that there would even be the slightest possibility that there wouldn't be some kind of action taken by kespa? Only thing here is Game isn't a big enough organization on his own to do anything about it. Also, iCCup owns nothing legally, the server isn't even legal, therefore, don't be fooled, they're not entitled to any of these replays.
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Seriously this blog is hilarious. I thought you were going to retire Game, because you needed more time for your real life or something, yet you still have enough time to write page-long rants about ICCup. Not to mention the replays sale thing was a fucking failure of an endevour from the start.
Still good effort for writing so much I guess
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On July 10 2011 12:36 Armathai wrote:
Seriously this blog is hilarious. I thought you were going to retire Game, because you needed more time for your real life or something, yet you still have enough time to write page-long rants about ICCup. Not to mention the replays sale thing was a fucking failure of an endevour from the start.
Still good effort for writing so much I guess
Hey thanks for your opinion bro, I guess 50+ hours a week of tournaments and running the best team outside of Korea equates to writing a page long blog in 5 minutes. You totes know what you're talking about with the endeavor* as well.
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Way to clear up any misconceptions, Game.
iCCup, once a fun place to game, is completely devoid of anything fun. Hm, weird.
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Sorry i've been out of the BW loop for too long, but why were you trying to sell the replay pack of a foreign starleague?
My only guess is to raise money for season 2? If so thats pretty cool
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On July 10 2011 14:31 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:Sorry i've been out of the BW loop for too long, but why were you trying to sell the replay pack of a foreign starleague? My only guess is to raise money for season 2? If so thats pretty cool
Yeah Kurt, you've missed a lot. I been doin stuffz. It indeed raised additional funding for the second season, which was awesome.
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Wow I actually remember you! Pretty interesting idea tbh...
Why was he temp banned for his post? other than the fact that somebody clearly took personal offense to what he said... seems like a bit of abuse imo... he was only being creepy with a few comments nothing ban worthy... but hey, keep doing things that make him seem like a martyr without him needing to say it. Because that could get him banned. Good Job.
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On July 10 2011 15:54 OmniEulogy wrote:
Wow I actually remember you! Pretty interesting idea tbh...
Why was he temp banned for his post? other than the fact that somebody clearly took personal offense to what he said... seems like a bit of abuse imo... he was only being creepy with a few comments nothing ban worthy... but hey, keep doing things that make him seem like a martyr without him needing to say it. Cause that could get him banned. Good Job.
If you didn't read the post before it was editted out, he had personal information of other people in the OP...bringing up names and other personal info in this thread was 100% useless, and he got his point across without doing it.
Does he have a right to be mad at ICCUP? I guess, depending on your view of the situation. Does that justify using people's RL info to get at them? No.
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alirght. we do now know that iccup isnt that great at all(sucks pretty hard) but what do we do now??? must we gonna boycot it? i pesonaly think i gonna do it yust for you and sayle. i am arounda d/d+ but i gonna try atleast to get on the fish server. everything is better tan iccup i geus?:D
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If you want good players and a more active server, then Fish is the way to go. Really the only appeal to iCCup is that people speak English.
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and if more people move to fish, we have our own community there, and we all speak english! And there are several koreans who speak proper english, or at least basic.
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and the same announcement every 3-4minutes!
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Why was the OP banned, he had good, valid points about ICCUP.....
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hm, another showcase of iccup's great job at organizing stuff:
since BWCL seems to be a very new and unknown clan league that happened for the first time today and nobody knew about it, iCCup managed to just schedule their iCC-CL Finals at the same time as BWCL is happening.
It's not like the BWCL season is running in its 9th and final week already, and it's 38th season, pssh.
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On July 11 2011 00:31 SichuanPanda wrote:
Why was the OP banned, he had good, valid points about ICCUP.....
See my post above.
Or just look in the automated Ban list. Really, it takes two seconds. He wasn't banned because he dislikes ICCUP.
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On July 11 2011 02:08 Torenhire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 00:31 SichuanPanda wrote:
Why was the OP banned, he had good, valid points about ICCUP..... See my post above. Or just look in the automated Ban list. Really, it takes two seconds. He wasn't banned because he dislikes ICCUP.
yeah thanks for clarifying it for me, I hadn't seen that 
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On July 11 2011 00:39 LML wrote:
hm, another showcase of iccup's great job at organizing stuff:
since BWCL seems to be a very new and unknown clan league that happened for the first time today and nobody knew about it, iCCup managed to just schedule their iCC-CL Finals at the same time as BWCL is happening.
It's not like the BWCL season is running in its 9th and final week already, and it's 38th season, pssh.
They clearly know what they're doing.
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I think the reps shouldn't be free. Use them for donations so you can keep the tournaments going. With SC2 out, to constantly find sponsors for events is going to grow increasingly difficult. But by donating we get something out of it, these reps we can study from AND we're helping the community. With donations tournaments can keep going on and iccup can be maintained.
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