EPTResponse to Kotaku article on progaming downswing: - Page 3
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Ho0ps
United Kingdom216 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32141 Posts
On July 07 2011 02:19 Ho0ps wrote: The whole of the Gawker Network has gone way down in their quality. kotaku has always been shit bc the entire video game review media is a joke. deadspin has gone to utter shit though. Magary is the only reason worth reading that most days. aj fills it with all sorts of stupid catty shit instead of the snarky commentary that made it so funny | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Clow
Brazil880 Posts
'Prize money isn't what it used to be. But they're still making a living, playing the game, and things are looking up, says 27 year-old David "Zaccubus" Treacy of Team Dignitas.' Did she just skip that part or what? I don't play SC2 as much as I'd want to, but I watch it a lot. I don't play fighting games but I love watching its tournaments. I NEVER played Quake, and I love watching QL. Never reading kotaku again. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On July 07 2011 02:38 Boblion wrote: I wouldn't say that this article is good but at least it is successful ! Pulling something out one's ass is not successful. I doubt the writer will stay at Kotaku for long if Kotaku knows what they are doing. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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Duka08
3391 Posts
Treacy also describes the difficulties that one must endure in order to really make it as a pro gamer, a thankless profession that only pays about $30,000 annually before sponsorships. As if "about 30k" a year is bad for FUCKING ANYONE in their teens and early twenties. Yeah it's work, but obviously they like doing it or they wouldn't be, and they'd go get what Jen would call "a Regular People job" I guess. | ||
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
Just disgusting... The worst part is that by getting mad at it, we actually responded and gave it too much attention. Now that article might aswell be some of the most read this day/week, who knows. Just sad >.< | ||
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DoA
Korea (South)599 Posts
http://www.sixjaxgaming.com/wp/scii/2011/07/06/professional-gaming-on-an-upswing-growing-fan-base-to-blame/ | ||
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Xaax
United States102 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32141 Posts
On July 07 2011 02:46 Duka08 wrote: My favorite part (other than the obvious "fuck you and I'm ignorant" statements of course) was: Treacy also describes the difficulties that one must endure in order to really make it as a pro gamer, a thankless profession that only pays about $30,000 annually before sponsorships. As if "about 30k" a year is bad for FUCKING ANYONE in their teens and early twenties. Yeah it's work, but obviously they like doing it or they wouldn't be, and they'd go get what Jen would call "a Regular People job" I guess. 30k aint a lot at all, and you forgo school/training in a more lucrative/stable profession to work 12+ hours a day in a field that you more than likely will not be part of in a decade. Really don't know why you took issue with that. | ||
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heaven-
United States361 Posts
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On July 07 2011 04:16 Hawk wrote: 30k aint a lot at all, and you forgo school/training in a more lucrative/stable profession to work 12+ hours a day in a field that you more than likely will not be part of in a decade. Really don't know why you took issue with that. It's certainly not a lot for someone college (or higher) educated. But I've heard more gamers say they are making a comfortable living doing what they are doing (and that is likely not only team salary + winnings either) than those that have said they've been desperately scraping by (which is little to none tbh, as I rack my memory). Especially living in a team house environment, which is becoming more popular in the western world (awesomely! I don't know as much history about FPS gaming, are FPS houses common? Such as the big teams in CS 1.6 and more recently Halo?). You can live comfortably as a professional gamer off 30k in my opinion. And there are great opportunities if you reach out as well, such as coaching and personal sponsorships/endorsements. | ||
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32141 Posts
On July 07 2011 04:55 Duka08 wrote: It's certainly not a lot for someone college (or higher) educated. But I've heard more gamers say they are making a comfortable living doing what they are doing (and that is likely not only team salary + winnings either) than those that have been desperately scraping by. Especially living in a team house environment, which is becoming more popular in the western world (awesomely, though I don't know as much history about FPS gaming, are FPS houses common? Such as the big teams in CS 1.6 and more recently Halo?). You can live comfortably as a professional gamer off 30k in my opinion. And there are great opportunities if you reach out as well, such as coaching and personal sponsorships/endorsements. Never mind the fact that a really small percentage of gamers come close to those numbers, $30k is not any kind of substantial pay at all unless you have a high school education. And when you're playing 12 hours a day, you aren't preparing for life after gaming, which, for most, isn't in the industry. For every incontrol, who has or is getting a degree and has a bunch of things going for him beyond playing, there's 10 unknown morons who make blogs every day about how they are quiting their job and school to go pro and never make it. | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On July 07 2011 05:16 Hawk wrote: For every incontrol, who has or is getting a degree and has a bunch of things going for him beyond playing, there's 10 unknown morons who make blogs every day about how they are quiting their job and school to go pro and never make it. And perhaps you're right that these people are making the wrong impression, the kind that people on Kotaku blog about as if it's the end all be all. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32141 Posts
On July 07 2011 05:33 Duka08 wrote: And perhaps you're right that these people are making the wrong impression, the kind that people on Kotaku blog about as if it's the end all be all. what are you even trying to say??? | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
I get into so many little arguments on this website with people I'm never actually in disagreement with. I guess I never to find a better way of speaking. | ||
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simblor
New Zealand12 Posts
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