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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
July 06 2011 03:53 GMT
#21
Of the people in the world, there are those who are dumb, those who are malicious, and the ones that are both like the writer of this article. Starting with a string of intentional misquotes and taking quotes out of context, and including silly, excuse me, but bitchy sounding humor, I think I now have cancer after reading this article.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Ravencruiser
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada519 Posts
July 06 2011 03:56 GMT
#22
Why are you giving the article even more views and attention?

A mod should just close this thread, the article is a joke and not worthy of discussion in the slightest.
"Yah, free will is a bitch" - Drone
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 06 2011 04:02 GMT
#23
This is definitely the worst article I've partially skimmed through since that Feminist blog about TL hating women and it's administrators condoning rape. (loosely paraphrased)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 06 2011 05:19 GMT
#24
On July 06 2011 10:23 Hawk wrote:
joke's on you dude, kotaku is part of the gawker media empire that includes deadspin. You should know what you are getting there.

and really the whole gaming media scene as a whole, since it is entirely dependent on keeping the people you're covering happy.


And Jezebel, that place makes feminism looks so bad and repulsive unfortunately D: It really makes me cringe.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32046 Posts
July 06 2011 13:19 GMT
#25
On July 06 2011 14:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 10:23 Hawk wrote:
joke's on you dude, kotaku is part of the gawker media empire that includes deadspin. You should know what you are getting there.

and really the whole gaming media scene as a whole, since it is entirely dependent on keeping the people you're covering happy.


And Jezebel, that place makes feminism looks so bad and repulsive unfortunately D: It really makes me cringe.


oddly enough, i give them several hits a day on each of their sites despite really despising a lot of the shitty practices they do!
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
POiNTx
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium309 Posts
July 06 2011 13:37 GMT
#26
This is hurting ESPORTS. Stop it already!

No but on a serious note. I don't think a lot of people care about this article. If you look at the comments on the article, they are equally upset. Of course there is that group of people that don't like professional gaming it in the first place, but that is their opinion and their right.

Also companies that would like to sponsor tournaments won't check out Kotaku or any other gaming news site. They want concrete viewer numbers of tournaments.
Fuck yeah serotonin
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
July 06 2011 13:53 GMT
#27
On July 06 2011 09:54 DoA wrote:
Exactly. Most people know to avoid this kind of thing, but the sad fact is that the people that aren't familiar with professional gaming are likely not familiar with where to go to get valid info on it.

She's welcome to her opinion on progaming, but the poor, misleading "journalism" is what really bothers me.


It doesnt really matter. The way the article is written, the "his - erm - fans" and the "Oh wait. No I don't." parts are showing everyone with a brain that this article is crap.
Not even a semi-professional journalist would ever write an article in that style.

People will ignore it. And if they dont they're stupid and no one needs them anyways
Fryght
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 14:31:14
July 06 2011 14:20 GMT
#28
Kotaku is a bunch of console idiots that suck at gaming. Also, their new site design is one of the worst I have ever seen. They love bashing PC gaming as well. I think they have declared it dead about 50 times by now. Also, they cherry pick comments, based on what they like. Only shiny happy double rainbow comments, all the time!

Also, while SC2 and the fighting games have successful streams (usually between 20k and 80k viewers), it's worth mentioning the LoL stream, that peaked at 210k viewers. I think that's enough to break out of the 'niche' category, right?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
July 06 2011 14:31 GMT
#29
this article is just so, so bad
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 06 2011 14:42 GMT
#30
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Patat0r
Profile Joined May 2010
France142 Posts
July 06 2011 14:48 GMT
#31
This article will make very little noise.

- People who know esport will know this is total bullshit.
- People who don't know esport won't learn anything from the article because this is so short and incomplete

Everybody will go "eh, whatever" at the end of the day...

She also doesn't know how to read, nowhere ine the interview did he say that there is a lack of audience for progamming.
"Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society" -Mark Twain
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 15:15:24
July 06 2011 14:52 GMT
#32
Best part of the "article" is the fact that she is using a cool interview, from another site.

If that stuff gets sold as journalism and not "Me ranting about stuff i do not like" i will become a great journalist one day ^^
Also Wheat would deserve several Pulitzer-Prizes for his ranting.
Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
July 06 2011 15:21 GMT
#33
lol. After reading this article, I clicked on her name on Kotaku which brought me to her page, where she said this:

+ Show Spoiler +
The point is that this guy is complaining about a problem that doesn't exist--he's saying that being a pro gamer is harder than ever, even though a wider variety of companies (beyond the companies who are providing the gaming rigs and actual games) are signing on to sponsor gamers, and blaming people who aren't watching tournaments for this supposed decline. He's complaining even though he's getting paid for a skill that he has chosen to work hard at, and is probably better at than the average person, and making more than minimum wage to do so.


http://kotaku.com/people/jenschiller/

Apparently, after she talked about how $30,000 annual income was bad in her article, she now comes out saying that its a fair income. She also seems to be putting words in Zaccubus' mouth. I didn't see him say anywhere in that interview that being a pro gamer is harder than ever.

Also, for the record, her last article on the ending of Duke Nukem Forever was sour as well, all I read in that thing was negativity towards the game, despite what the general consensus for it was.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 16:33:02
July 06 2011 16:32 GMT
#34
Don't get me wrong, I love reading an article written by an ignorant + Show Spoiler +
cunt
Oh wait, no I don't. It's not even clever bitchiness, it's just hap-hazard and misplaced retardation.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 06 2011 16:34 GMT
#35
That article is such a joke and a slap in the face to progaming.

Won't be visiting Kotaku for awhile, no thanks.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Quetz
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom28 Posts
July 06 2011 16:37 GMT
#36
On July 06 2011 08:59 Kennigit wrote:
I wouldn't even click the link. Kotaku is a rag of a blog and exists only to spew traffic-generating sensationalism,....there isn't an ounce of journalism here. She interviewed 1 person and wrote an article on it???? You would actually fail an assignment in any journalism program trying to pull that off.

Her point is quite literally "Waaah this is boring i don't like it".


From what I can tell it isn't even an interview that she did herself. It's her opinion on someone elses interview which is barely the basis for an article at all tbh.
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
July 06 2011 16:40 GMT
#37
Three paragraphs of opinionated garbage. Do some research next time and then try and sit down and think about what you're making. That's what real journalists do. What a crackpot.

ESPORTS is obviously struggling, destroying streaming records with every new tournament. Please Jen, save our industry.
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
July 06 2011 16:46 GMT
#38
Hah funny thing is, if it was for the 'regular people', gaming would still be a low budget endevor and nobody would play it, let alone give people editor spots on websites about gaming......
CatsPajamas
Profile Joined October 2010
United States337 Posts
July 06 2011 17:12 GMT
#39
This article just blows my mind. Reading between the lines, she's saying that it's ok to worship athletes who play games better than we do, but not games. Thus, she's devaluing the importance of video games ON A DAMN VIDEO GAME BLOG. BAH. Anyway, well written piece, DoA.
http://twitter.com/kevinknocke
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 17:18:46
July 06 2011 17:15 GMT
#40
Pathetic "journalism" garbage used to get views, got one view off me but wont be getting anymore in the future.

Edit: In my rage forgot to mention great rebuttle Doa
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