EPTResponse to Kotaku article on progaming downswing: - Page 2
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CeriseCherries
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Ravencruiser
Canada519 Posts
A mod should just close this thread, the article is a joke and not worthy of discussion in the slightest. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On July 06 2011 10:23 Hawk wrote: joke's on you dude, kotaku is part of the gawker media empire that includes deadspin. You should know what you are getting there. and really the whole gaming media scene as a whole, since it is entirely dependent on keeping the people you're covering happy. And Jezebel, that place makes feminism looks so bad and repulsive unfortunately D: It really makes me cringe. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
On July 06 2011 14:19 Torte de Lini wrote: And Jezebel, that place makes feminism looks so bad and repulsive unfortunately D: It really makes me cringe. oddly enough, i give them several hits a day on each of their sites despite really despising a lot of the shitty practices they do! | ||
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POiNTx
Belgium309 Posts
No but on a serious note. I don't think a lot of people care about this article. If you look at the comments on the article, they are equally upset. Of course there is that group of people that don't like professional gaming it in the first place, but that is their opinion and their right. Also companies that would like to sponsor tournaments won't check out Kotaku or any other gaming news site. They want concrete viewer numbers of tournaments. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On July 06 2011 09:54 DoA wrote: Exactly. Most people know to avoid this kind of thing, but the sad fact is that the people that aren't familiar with professional gaming are likely not familiar with where to go to get valid info on it. She's welcome to her opinion on progaming, but the poor, misleading "journalism" is what really bothers me. It doesnt really matter. The way the article is written, the "his - erm - fans" and the "Oh wait. No I don't." parts are showing everyone with a brain that this article is crap. Not even a semi-professional journalist would ever write an article in that style. People will ignore it. And if they dont they're stupid and no one needs them anyways  | ||
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Fryght
Netherlands254 Posts
Also, while SC2 and the fighting games have successful streams (usually between 20k and 80k viewers), it's worth mentioning the LoL stream, that peaked at 210k viewers. I think that's enough to break out of the 'niche' category, right? | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36392 Posts
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zeru
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Patat0r
France142 Posts
- People who know esport will know this is total bullshit. - People who don't know esport won't learn anything from the article because this is so short and incomplete Everybody will go "eh, whatever" at the end of the day... She also doesn't know how to read, nowhere ine the interview did he say that there is a lack of audience for progamming. | ||
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zocktol
Germany1928 Posts
If that stuff gets sold as journalism and not "Me ranting about stuff i do not like" i will become a great journalist one day ^^ Also Wheat would deserve several Pulitzer-Prizes for his ranting. | ||
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Elite__
Canada976 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + The point is that this guy is complaining about a problem that doesn't exist--he's saying that being a pro gamer is harder than ever, even though a wider variety of companies (beyond the companies who are providing the gaming rigs and actual games) are signing on to sponsor gamers, and blaming people who aren't watching tournaments for this supposed decline. He's complaining even though he's getting paid for a skill that he has chosen to work hard at, and is probably better at than the average person, and making more than minimum wage to do so. http://kotaku.com/people/jenschiller/ Apparently, after she talked about how $30,000 annual income was bad in her article, she now comes out saying that its a fair income. She also seems to be putting words in Zaccubus' mouth. I didn't see him say anywhere in that interview that being a pro gamer is harder than ever. Also, for the record, her last article on the ending of Duke Nukem Forever was sour as well, all I read in that thing was negativity towards the game, despite what the general consensus for it was. | ||
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Mortal
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Won't be visiting Kotaku for awhile, no thanks. | ||
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Quetz
United Kingdom28 Posts
On July 06 2011 08:59 Kennigit wrote: I wouldn't even click the link. Kotaku is a rag of a blog and exists only to spew traffic-generating sensationalism,....there isn't an ounce of journalism here. She interviewed 1 person and wrote an article on it???? You would actually fail an assignment in any journalism program trying to pull that off. Her point is quite literally "Waaah this is boring i don't like it". From what I can tell it isn't even an interview that she did herself. It's her opinion on someone elses interview which is barely the basis for an article at all tbh. | ||
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
ESPORTS is obviously struggling, destroying streaming records with every new tournament. Please Jen, save our industry. | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
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CatsPajamas
United States337 Posts
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
Edit: In my rage forgot to mention great rebuttle Doa | ||
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