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On June 21 2011 02:34 jacosajh wrote:
I would just talk with the "father" and apologize for upsetting him. Don't admit you did anything wrong, but just apologize that you pissed him off.
For being a "lawyer" he's pretty dumb for putting a threat in writing. I don't really think anything will happen to you unless the girl says she was raped or taken advantage of.
Also I didn't see anything about alcohol in the OP, but some people are addressing that. If there was no alcohol involved, you should be fine. But if there was, you can get into trouble, even if it isn't for sexual reasons.
They are probably pissed off at her, but taking it out on you. By apologizing, you might cool him down a bit.
If he still continues to rage at you, just save his text messages and any other contacts, and you should be fine unless you did something wrong.
This seems like good advice if you plan on seeing the girl again.
If you don't plan on dating this girl, or whatever, I wouldn't waste your breath...
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You don't waste your breathe if it could potentially save you from going to court. Whether or not the "father" has any grounds for "justice" doesn't mean it can stop him from harassing him verbally or financially.
If he's pissed off enough, he can proceed with a case, making him have to pay for a defense or just go through the sheer inconvenience. If the "father" really is a lawyer, he certainly has the resources to pull it off.
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On June 21 2011 02:47 jacosajh wrote:
You don't waste your breathe if it could potentially save you from going to court. Whether or not the "father" has any grounds for "justice" doesn't mean it can stop him from harassing him verbally or financially.
If he's pissed off enough, he can proceed with a case, making him have to pay for a defense or just go through the sheer inconvenience. If the "father" really is a lawyer, he certainly has the resources to pull it off.
I was more thinking that if you don't plan on romantically seeing her again, you coming by and speaking to him is probably going to be more salt-in-the-wound than anything. And if he is already sending ridiculous texts...I'm skeptical as to how receptive he will be to an apology (or whatever it is you would say).
I don't think its up to the father to proceed with a case? In Canada it is the decision of the crown prosecutors. Inconvenience would be had as they collect evidence though.
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How often has he texted you?
When was the last time he texted you?
Has anyone else contacted you?
Has he said anything more besides threatening to go after you?
What is the girl's stance recently (I know she said she consented, anything else? Has she talked to them about it?)
Was there alcohol at that party (a bit odd if there was. He has a minor drinking at his house, yet gets mad when she fools around? That's something to note). Were either of you drunk, tipsy or taken advantage of (consenting when drunk is a gray line, no?)
I think that's all I want to ask. :3
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Important questions to answer ^^
also i think its really important what she thinks right now
as has been said about *flip flopping*
shes the one that can really get you in trouble.
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On June 21 2011 04:35 largedong wrote:
I would call the father and ask him if she has any younger sisters
lol gave me something to laugh about but a terrible terrible idea xD
But honestly... how fucking stupid. He's a lawyer? Good God, he really is holding true to the reasons why people hate them in general. Lying/Manipulative lol. You have nothing to worry about other than the fact that this girl's 'father' seems like a total dick.
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On June 20 2011 23:27 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 15:42 Zlasher wrote:
I don't fuck around with the age of consent dude...she's 5 years younger than you didn't that bother you a bit at first? why should it? it's not like he's having sex with a kid - by that age she's at least mature enough to make informed sexual decisions (that's an assumption of course, as far as I know she is not handicapped!)
actually its much like having sex with a kid. many 25 year olds (let alone 17 year olds, what is that a junior or senior in high school?!) in modern day society (especially the ones living with their parents) still arent mature enough to make sensible decisions. dont rely on the 'i can get this chick because she is way younger and more impressionable than i am' actually go out and find someone your own age -- at which point you will never have to worry about being accused of rape, statutory or otherwise.
as far as the law is concerned, she could royally fuck your world up by just saying that you raped her, placing you on naughty lists that you dont want to be on, however it sounds more like a family drama affair due to your and her most worthwhile fling
dont step in shit and you wont have to smell it
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On June 21 2011 04:57 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 04:35 largedong wrote:
I would call the father and ask him if she has any younger sisters lol gave me something to laugh about but a terrible terrible idea xD But honestly... how fucking stupid. He's a lawyer? Good God, he really is holding true to the reasons why people hate them in general. Lying/Manipulative lol. You have nothing to worry about other than the fact that this girl's 'father' seems like a total dick.
+1lololol also -- lawyers dont really act like that - sounds like a guy wanting to sound like a lawyer to TROLOLOL you so its highly probable it will never come to action
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take note that the father could be a tl user also. who knows, maybe one of us is trying to get you to say something that could be used against you.
..or maybe i'm just being paranoid if i were to put myself in your shoes. :X
but seriously, 99% of my mind is saying that he isn't a a lawyer. he's just saying the most ridiculous statement that would cause you stress. more importantly, he probably wants you to think twice before you do what you do with his daughter..aka stay the fuck away from her.
personally, i'd talk to the daughter in person and hear her story (if he is indeed a lawyer and that she agrees that she consented. maybe bring a voice recorder just in case (lol i would really p*** my pants if i were in your situation right now). or if you have to balls to talk to her father, then do that. realistically speaking, i'd be a pussy to do that - it's just hard to talk to someone who's emotions override his logic.
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Yes, he's a corporate lawyer in some company I don't know about.
She has been talking to me on facebook and chatting. We talk on the phone a lot as well.
First I got messages from the mom. The "dad" messaged me once only, I called him back and he was very pissed off.
By the way, the family provided alcohol and she was drinking in their presense. They went to sleep and I stayed with her. We were not drunk at all, we kissed a little and then hours passed and we were pretty much sober. Then she went to an empty room and called me to go in, yada yada.
We had Coors light for fucks sake, that shit never gets you drunk.
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On June 21 2011 06:13 Rev0lution wrote:
Yes, he's a corporate lawyer in some company I don't know about.
She has been talking to me on facebook and chatting. We talk on the phone a lot as well.
First I got messages from the mom. The "dad" messaged me once only, I called him back and he was very pissed off.
By the way, the family provided alcohol and she was drinking in their presense. They went to sleep and I stayed with her. We were not drunk at all, we kissed a little and then hours passed and we were pretty much sober. Then she went to an empty room and called me to go in, yada yada.
We had Coors light for fucks sake, that shit never gets you drunk.
So basically he's mad you slept with his daughter but provided the alcohol for their underaged daughter?
You do realize you have the upperhand here, right? While I don't suggest for you to provoke them, if they do follow-up with their case, you have a big trump card that not only incriminates them, but can also be impled that they, too, consented for such a thing to happen (if they allow their underaged daughter to responsibly drink, then one can say she is responsible or mature enough to make her own decisions about her sexual discourse).
You're fine bro, don't worry about it. There wasn't even any intercourse, oral sex isn't even that big of a deal. No penetration, no problem (how the hell did they even find out?)
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On June 21 2011 05:42 Vulcano wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 23:27 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On June 20 2011 15:42 Zlasher wrote:
I don't fuck around with the age of consent dude...she's 5 years younger than you didn't that bother you a bit at first? why should it? it's not like he's having sex with a kid - by that age she's at least mature enough to make informed sexual decisions (that's an assumption of course, as far as I know she is not handicapped!) actually its much like having sex with a kid. many 25 year olds (let alone 17 year olds, what is that a junior or senior in high school?!) in modern day society (especially the ones living with their parents) still arent mature enough to make sensible decisions. dont rely on the 'i can get this chick because she is way younger and more impressionable than i am' actually
are you implying that having sex with people under 25 should be rape?
go out and find someone your own age -- at which point you will never have to worry about being accused of rape, statutory or otherwise.
as far as the law is concerned, she could royally fuck your world up by just saying that you raped her, placing you on naughty lists that you dont want to be on, however it sounds more like a family drama affair due to your and her most worthwhile fling
dont step in shit and you wont have to smell it
for the record, my girlfriend is 15 days younger than me, i am saying simply for the idea of the matter.. also, she can't royally fuck up his world any more than any other LEGAL girl can. she is legal, the only way he could be in trouble is if she says it was non-consensual, OR if he gave her alcohol or some other drug
On June 21 2011 06:22 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 06:13 Rev0lution wrote:
Yes, he's a corporate lawyer in some company I don't know about.
She has been talking to me on facebook and chatting. We talk on the phone a lot as well.
First I got messages from the mom. The "dad" messaged me once only, I called him back and he was very pissed off.
By the way, the family provided alcohol and she was drinking in their presense. They went to sleep and I stayed with her. We were not drunk at all, we kissed a little and then hours passed and we were pretty much sober. Then she went to an empty room and called me to go in, yada yada.
We had Coors light for fucks sake, that shit never gets you drunk. So basically he's mad you slept with his daughter but provided the alcohol for their underaged daughter? You do realize you have the upperhand here, right? While I don't suggest for you to provoke them, if they do follow-up with their case, you have a big trump card that not only incriminates them, but can also be impled that they, too, consented for such a thing to happen (if they allow their underaged daughter to responsibly drink, then one can say she is responsible or mature enough to make her own decisions about her sexual discourse). You're fine bro, don't worry about it. There wasn't even any intercourse, oral sex isn't even that big of a deal. No penetration, no problem (how the hell did they even find out?)
not sure about NY, but in ohio at least, parent/guardians can (legally) provide alcohol to their children
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On June 21 2011 07:31 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 05:42 Vulcano wrote:On June 20 2011 23:27 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On June 20 2011 15:42 Zlasher wrote:
I don't fuck around with the age of consent dude...she's 5 years younger than you didn't that bother you a bit at first? why should it? it's not like he's having sex with a kid - by that age she's at least mature enough to make informed sexual decisions (that's an assumption of course, as far as I know she is not handicapped!) actually its much like having sex with a kid. many 25 year olds (let alone 17 year olds, what is that a junior or senior in high school?!) in modern day society (especially the ones living with their parents) still arent mature enough to make sensible decisions. dont rely on the 'i can get this chick because she is way younger and more impressionable than i am' actually are you implying that having sex with people under 25 should be rape? Show nested quote +
go out and find someone your own age -- at which point you will never have to worry about being accused of rape, statutory or otherwise.
as far as the law is concerned, she could royally fuck your world up by just saying that you raped her, placing you on naughty lists that you dont want to be on, however it sounds more like a family drama affair due to your and her most worthwhile fling
dont step in shit and you wont have to smell it
for the record, my girlfriend is 15 days younger than me, i am saying simply for the idea of the matter.. also, she can't royally fuck up his world any more than any other LEGAL girl can. she is legal, the only way he could be in trouble is if she says it was non-consensual, OR if he gave her alcohol or some other drug Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 06:22 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 21 2011 06:13 Rev0lution wrote:
Yes, he's a corporate lawyer in some company I don't know about.
She has been talking to me on facebook and chatting. We talk on the phone a lot as well.
First I got messages from the mom. The "dad" messaged me once only, I called him back and he was very pissed off.
By the way, the family provided alcohol and she was drinking in their presense. They went to sleep and I stayed with her. We were not drunk at all, we kissed a little and then hours passed and we were pretty much sober. Then she went to an empty room and called me to go in, yada yada.
We had Coors light for fucks sake, that shit never gets you drunk. So basically he's mad you slept with his daughter but provided the alcohol for their underaged daughter? You do realize you have the upperhand here, right? While I don't suggest for you to provoke them, if they do follow-up with their case, you have a big trump card that not only incriminates them, but can also be impled that they, too, consented for such a thing to happen (if they allow their underaged daughter to responsibly drink, then one can say she is responsible or mature enough to make her own decisions about her sexual discourse). You're fine bro, don't worry about it. There wasn't even any intercourse, oral sex isn't even that big of a deal. No penetration, no problem (how the hell did they even find out?) not sure about NY, but in ohio at least, parent/guardians can (legally) provide alcohol to their children
With supervision, no?
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On June 21 2011 07:58 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 07:31 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On June 21 2011 05:42 Vulcano wrote:On June 20 2011 23:27 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On June 20 2011 15:42 Zlasher wrote:
I don't fuck around with the age of consent dude...she's 5 years younger than you didn't that bother you a bit at first? why should it? it's not like he's having sex with a kid - by that age she's at least mature enough to make informed sexual decisions (that's an assumption of course, as far as I know she is not handicapped!) actually its much like having sex with a kid. many 25 year olds (let alone 17 year olds, what is that a junior or senior in high school?!) in modern day society (especially the ones living with their parents) still arent mature enough to make sensible decisions. dont rely on the 'i can get this chick because she is way younger and more impressionable than i am' actually are you implying that having sex with people under 25 should be rape?
go out and find someone your own age -- at which point you will never have to worry about being accused of rape, statutory or otherwise.
as far as the law is concerned, she could royally fuck your world up by just saying that you raped her, placing you on naughty lists that you dont want to be on, however it sounds more like a family drama affair due to your and her most worthwhile fling
dont step in shit and you wont have to smell it
for the record, my girlfriend is 15 days younger than me, i am saying simply for the idea of the matter.. also, she can't royally fuck up his world any more than any other LEGAL girl can. she is legal, the only way he could be in trouble is if she says it was non-consensual, OR if he gave her alcohol or some other drug On June 21 2011 06:22 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 21 2011 06:13 Rev0lution wrote:
Yes, he's a corporate lawyer in some company I don't know about.
She has been talking to me on facebook and chatting. We talk on the phone a lot as well.
First I got messages from the mom. The "dad" messaged me once only, I called him back and he was very pissed off.
By the way, the family provided alcohol and she was drinking in their presense. They went to sleep and I stayed with her. We were not drunk at all, we kissed a little and then hours passed and we were pretty much sober. Then she went to an empty room and called me to go in, yada yada.
We had Coors light for fucks sake, that shit never gets you drunk. So basically he's mad you slept with his daughter but provided the alcohol for their underaged daughter? You do realize you have the upperhand here, right? While I don't suggest for you to provoke them, if they do follow-up with their case, you have a big trump card that not only incriminates them, but can also be impled that they, too, consented for such a thing to happen (if they allow their underaged daughter to responsibly drink, then one can say she is responsible or mature enough to make her own decisions about her sexual discourse). You're fine bro, don't worry about it. There wasn't even any intercourse, oral sex isn't even that big of a deal. No penetration, no problem (how the hell did they even find out?) not sure about NY, but in ohio at least, parent/guardians can (legally) provide alcohol to their children With supervision, no?
yea, with supervision.. but i think (think) they were around when she was drinking, we'd have to have the OP clarify
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Parents were there with alcohol and she is age of consent. What is her stance of the situation, does she know that her dad is communicating with you?
The dad has nothing on you unless the girl says something to royally fuck you over otherwise not much can be done.
However if you don't wish to pursue the girl in a relationship beyond friendship i advise you to step away and let the heat blow off and explain the situation. If you do then sit down and talk to mom (forget about the "dad" unless he further threatens you)
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On June 21 2011 08:41 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 07:58 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 21 2011 07:31 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On June 21 2011 05:42 Vulcano wrote:On June 20 2011 23:27 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On June 20 2011 15:42 Zlasher wrote:
I don't fuck around with the age of consent dude...she's 5 years younger than you didn't that bother you a bit at first? why should it? it's not like he's having sex with a kid - by that age she's at least mature enough to make informed sexual decisions (that's an assumption of course, as far as I know she is not handicapped!) actually its much like having sex with a kid. many 25 year olds (let alone 17 year olds, what is that a junior or senior in high school?!) in modern day society (especially the ones living with their parents) still arent mature enough to make sensible decisions. dont rely on the 'i can get this chick because she is way younger and more impressionable than i am' actually are you implying that having sex with people under 25 should be rape?
go out and find someone your own age -- at which point you will never have to worry about being accused of rape, statutory or otherwise.
as far as the law is concerned, she could royally fuck your world up by just saying that you raped her, placing you on naughty lists that you dont want to be on, however it sounds more like a family drama affair due to your and her most worthwhile fling
dont step in shit and you wont have to smell it
for the record, my girlfriend is 15 days younger than me, i am saying simply for the idea of the matter.. also, she can't royally fuck up his world any more than any other LEGAL girl can. she is legal, the only way he could be in trouble is if she says it was non-consensual, OR if he gave her alcohol or some other drug On June 21 2011 06:22 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 21 2011 06:13 Rev0lution wrote:
Yes, he's a corporate lawyer in some company I don't know about.
She has been talking to me on facebook and chatting. We talk on the phone a lot as well.
First I got messages from the mom. The "dad" messaged me once only, I called him back and he was very pissed off.
By the way, the family provided alcohol and she was drinking in their presense. They went to sleep and I stayed with her. We were not drunk at all, we kissed a little and then hours passed and we were pretty much sober. Then she went to an empty room and called me to go in, yada yada.
We had Coors light for fucks sake, that shit never gets you drunk. So basically he's mad you slept with his daughter but provided the alcohol for their underaged daughter? You do realize you have the upperhand here, right? While I don't suggest for you to provoke them, if they do follow-up with their case, you have a big trump card that not only incriminates them, but can also be impled that they, too, consented for such a thing to happen (if they allow their underaged daughter to responsibly drink, then one can say she is responsible or mature enough to make her own decisions about her sexual discourse). You're fine bro, don't worry about it. There wasn't even any intercourse, oral sex isn't even that big of a deal. No penetration, no problem (how the hell did they even find out?) not sure about NY, but in ohio at least, parent/guardians can (legally) provide alcohol to their children With supervision, no? yea, with supervision.. but i think (think) they were around when she was drinking, we'd have to have the OP clarify
They went to bed.
Clearly not enough supervision.
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On June 21 2011 09:09 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 08:41 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On June 21 2011 07:58 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 21 2011 07:31 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On June 21 2011 05:42 Vulcano wrote:On June 20 2011 23:27 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On June 20 2011 15:42 Zlasher wrote:
I don't fuck around with the age of consent dude...she's 5 years younger than you didn't that bother you a bit at first? why should it? it's not like he's having sex with a kid - by that age she's at least mature enough to make informed sexual decisions (that's an assumption of course, as far as I know she is not handicapped!) actually its much like having sex with a kid. many 25 year olds (let alone 17 year olds, what is that a junior or senior in high school?!) in modern day society (especially the ones living with their parents) still arent mature enough to make sensible decisions. dont rely on the 'i can get this chick because she is way younger and more impressionable than i am' actually are you implying that having sex with people under 25 should be rape?
go out and find someone your own age -- at which point you will never have to worry about being accused of rape, statutory or otherwise.
as far as the law is concerned, she could royally fuck your world up by just saying that you raped her, placing you on naughty lists that you dont want to be on, however it sounds more like a family drama affair due to your and her most worthwhile fling
dont step in shit and you wont have to smell it
for the record, my girlfriend is 15 days younger than me, i am saying simply for the idea of the matter.. also, she can't royally fuck up his world any more than any other LEGAL girl can. she is legal, the only way he could be in trouble is if she says it was non-consensual, OR if he gave her alcohol or some other drug On June 21 2011 06:22 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 21 2011 06:13 Rev0lution wrote:
Yes, he's a corporate lawyer in some company I don't know about.
She has been talking to me on facebook and chatting. We talk on the phone a lot as well.
First I got messages from the mom. The "dad" messaged me once only, I called him back and he was very pissed off.
By the way, the family provided alcohol and she was drinking in their presense. They went to sleep and I stayed with her. We were not drunk at all, we kissed a little and then hours passed and we were pretty much sober. Then she went to an empty room and called me to go in, yada yada.
We had Coors light for fucks sake, that shit never gets you drunk. So basically he's mad you slept with his daughter but provided the alcohol for their underaged daughter? You do realize you have the upperhand here, right? While I don't suggest for you to provoke them, if they do follow-up with their case, you have a big trump card that not only incriminates them, but can also be impled that they, too, consented for such a thing to happen (if they allow their underaged daughter to responsibly drink, then one can say she is responsible or mature enough to make her own decisions about her sexual discourse). You're fine bro, don't worry about it. There wasn't even any intercourse, oral sex isn't even that big of a deal. No penetration, no problem (how the hell did they even find out?) not sure about NY, but in ohio at least, parent/guardians can (legally) provide alcohol to their children With supervision, no? yea, with supervision.. but i think (think) they were around when she was drinking, we'd have to have the OP clarify They went to bed. Clearly not enough supervision.
oh i agree, i'm not trying to say that they are good parents at all... this situation clearly tells us that!
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maybe her "dad" is pissed that you got to her before he did  ...
lol jk
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Thanks for the reassurance, when I heard his call I wasn't thinking clearly but now that I've done some research I know there is no way for him to get me at all. That is unless the girl accuses me herself, which is highly unlikely.
"Dad" was probably just trying to scare the living shit out of me. It worked, but temporarily.
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