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Some background, I am 22 she is 17. I met her at a party in her house in New York State.
We didn't have intercourse, and she consented to everything that we did.
Now, here's where it gets complicated. The owner of the house (may be her guardian) is a lawyer and texted me. Threatening me to call one of his NYPD "friends" to come over my house and arrest me for rape. I called him and he sounded angry as hell, saying she is a minor and to stop the fuck away from his family?
She lives with her mom in his house but the mom and the old guy are not married and I am not sure if he is her guardian or not. Either way, the mom could charge me right?
I am more scared of the dad cuz he's a lawyer and could do some under the table moves to fuck me over.
ANY LAWYERS WITH ADVICE PLEASE? I am shitting my pants right now.
 
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Australia8532 Posts
The age of consent in New York is 17; so the only problem is consent. Then it comes down to a he said she said argument. Keep the text - that is hilarious that he was stupid enough to put a threat in writing. That is major leverage.
I am not from the US but those are my thoughts 
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I am not a lawyer but according to Wikipedia the age of consent in New York State is 17, so unless she is claiming you raped or otherwise sexually assaulted her, you should be okay? I personally would not contact this person further.
If the cops come ask to see a warrant.
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Osaka27156 Posts
If it was consensual, and she isn't saying it is rape, just ignore him. If the girl says it is rape, well, then you have a he said she said problem.
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Nah, she is 100% 17 years old. Will be 18 in august, we both consented of course. It's the mom and "dad" who are freaking out.
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Keep all communication he sends to you. It sounds like whats happened is that he's pissed off that his daughter had sex and wants to take it out on someone. Leave it for a few days for him to calm down and go from there. It's highly likely he will simply lose interest. If he decides to take it further, as has been said previously, it's simply a he said she said but if you both agree there is no problem.
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I would not reply to it and just avoid her/him/that house in future.
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pedorapist!
+ Show Spoiler +....not at all.You did nothing wrong.
You didn't even have intercourse with said girl.You should be fine, even if that guy is a lawyer.
IF he would have the audacity to try to get at you through "under table moves", this would most likely be a case of slander, and you would be able to counter-sue him, using a REAL lawyer.
If I were you, I'd take it fairly easy. If you're telling us the truth about what went down (I see no reason why you wouldn't), you should be fine.
EDIT: 100th post...
What I expected:
+ Show Spoiler +
What really happened:
+ Show Spoiler +
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it's rape if you gave her alcohol, otherwise you are fine
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Hes just trying to scare you, in any case just ignore and move on.
(Keep the sms btw)
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I don't fuck around with the age of consent dude...she's 5 years younger than you didn't that bother you a bit at first?
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On June 20 2011 15:42 Zlasher wrote:
I don't fuck around with the age of consent dude...she's 5 years younger than you didn't that bother you a bit at first?
why should it? it's not like he's having sex with a kid - by that age she's at least mature enough to make informed sexual decisions (that's an assumption of course, as far as I know she is not handicapped!)
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Man, being right around your age I couldn't imagine hanging out with a 17 year old, let alone date one. W/e to each his own. You should have np with legal issues as long as you aren't retarded, though you might have an angry old man with a shotgun in your face if you're not careful.
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He can't say you raped her, only she can. wtf.
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I'm not familiar with specific NY criminal law, but rape requires sex without her consent. You didn't have sex with her, therefore no rape.
If you guys did other sexual acts, that could constitute sodomy and possibly battery. I'm not sure if NY has laws against sodomy, but that is something you can look up. Inappropriate contact with another person can also be a battery, but you two were at a party and presumably hooked up therefore there was implied consent to touch.
Now about this lawyer old guy who's threatening you: Keep the text message and don't stress too much about it. He was likely just pissed off and was flashing his feathers at ya.
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You at the very least made out with a 17-year-old, in her parents' house, when her parents were there?
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If the father is looking for some kind of ammunition against you, then you may as well just not talk to him. Not worth making the mistake of saying something that could be taken out of context but still used against you. If you think you can resolve the issue civilly, then arrange to meet him and just talk it over. Stay cool - you did nothing wrong. Tell him the events as they happened, obviously excluding any details about the naughty.
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While a lot of the advise here is correct, it is not encompassing of everything you have to be concerned about - the law can get really complicated with respect to sexual assault, so don't think you're clear just because it isn't mentioned here as you didn't provide much information. It all depends on the circumstances. Rape, sexual assault, regular assault, etc. are all different possibilities with different criteria.
Also, it happens all the time where even if there was consent, the girl changes her mind and says there wasn't consent in order to avoid anger and embarrassment from their family. It can be a big pain in the ass, so don't hook up with girls who live with their parents and who might be inclined to flip-flop on you after the fact.
Hell, we had a case in here a while ago where we did a standard divorce. The woman had come into the office, signed all the papers, smiled, shook our hand and left - we filed all the papers and that was that. Then, after the weekend, we got in to the office and there were about 50 people with signs protesting in front of the firm. Turns out she went home, someone found out about the divorce, and in her culture divorce is not allowed - so in order to avoid public embarrassment and shunning she had told them that she had been tricked into the divorce and she didn't mean to.
Goddamn flip-floppers!
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I would just talk with the "father" and apologize for upsetting him. Don't admit you did anything wrong, but just apologize that you pissed him off.
For being a "lawyer" he's pretty dumb for putting a threat in writing. I don't really think anything will happen to you unless the girl says she was raped or taken advantage of.
Also I didn't see anything about alcohol in the OP, but some people are addressing that. If there was no alcohol involved, you should be fine. But if there was, you can get into trouble, even if it isn't for sexual reasons.
They are probably pissed off at her, but taking it out on you. By apologizing, you might cool him down a bit.
If he still continues to rage at you, just save his text messages and any other contacts, and you should be fine unless you did something wrong.
But I'm not a lawyer so... If you really feel that threatened by it, maybe you do need to talk to one. Even an initial consultation might be helpful. Sure you might get charged $300 for it, but you could learn a lot, like if there even is a need to pay further for a defense.
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