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The "Steven Syndrome" - guys becoming wimps... - Page 3

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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 15:54:04
June 15 2011 15:52 GMT
#41
I don't know, I thought most nerds simply thought of the girls (as in getting into serious relationship with them) as pure trouble like I did. Way inferior benefit:loss ratio. And my asian prejudice against non-virgins actually serves as excellent protection against such "syndrome", I guess.

Not that I would ever be able to pick up a girl anyways xD
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 16:06:47
June 15 2011 16:06 GMT
#42
My best friend got into one of these relationships for a few years after I moved away, and it fucking broke him.

Even after it ended and I came back, he still is unable to trust women and maintain a healthy relationship.
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
June 15 2011 16:32 GMT
#43
I know two people like this, ugh...
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 16:55:06
June 15 2011 16:49 GMT
#44
On June 16 2011 00:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
I don't know, I thought most nerds simply thought of the girls (as in getting into serious relationship with them) as pure trouble like I did. Way inferior benefit:loss ratio. And my asian prejudice against non-virgins actually serves as excellent protection against such "syndrome", I guess.

Not that I would ever be able to pick up a girl anyways xD

Well I can tell you that there's a very good benefit:loss ratio if you find a good one - but it looks like they might be rare.

You have to make sure she's serious... My gf studied architecture, was top of her class and just got a dam' good job - she got offers from companies all over the country. If a girl works a full-time job at wal-mart or she's "studying" to become a hairdresser or an esthetician, there's a good chance she's shallow and won't be worth it. I find that very few people are capable of challenging me intellectually or handling abstract conversations, so it's a good thing that she can.

PS: I don't mean all hairdressers and estheticians or even walmart employees are shallow or bad gf's/bf's, but I assume it's rare for one of them to be as interesting as someone who cared enough to get a real education.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 15 2011 17:08 GMT
#45
Its the fluoride in tap water and industrial estrogen in food packaging. It affects neurochemistry making men more feminine. No joke.
Aah thats the stuff..
Asjo
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Denmark664 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 17:31:52
June 15 2011 17:10 GMT
#46
I wish so many boys wouldn't jump to the conclusion that a lot of girls are evil because they act in a manipulative and assertive manner. Most people in the ages 20-30 haven't matured to such a level that they can truly mind the needs and values of others if those others do not demand it. It requires much of a person to be so thoughtful. That doesn't mean that people are bad, but if you enter into a relationship where you feel that you're not in a position to stand up for yourself, it will likely lead to you feeling mistreated. Any person can fall into this trap. You feel that you simply act "as always" or that it's fair behaviour due to whatever self-justifications you develop. If no one challenges you, you are non the wiser.

A few generations back, men in general would treat women horribly. As long as long as your partner or society doesn't challenge it, being abusive, condescending, dominating can seem completely natural. If you always hit your wife and she never complained, you might actually feel indignant when the woman chooses to speak up. If she just continues servitude without making any demands, you will likely come to expect it rather than appeciate it. These men weren't bad, but a certain situation triggered their behaviour.

In this sense, I think there is certainly a grain of truth to the whole "why girls don't like nice guys" rhetoric that has been spouted all over the internet for a while. Someone who is unsure of herself and is trying to break the confines of a somewhat oppressive gender role will loathe you for unquestioningly accepting anything they do. Because you don't take them seriously. And thus, it develops into more of a abusive situation than a relationship.
I am not sure what to say
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 15 2011 17:29 GMT
#47
On June 16 2011 02:08 xarthaz wrote:
Its the fluoride in tap water and industrial estrogen in food packaging. It affects neurochemistry making men more feminine. No joke.

Not convinced... =P
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
qdenser
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada133 Posts
June 15 2011 20:12 GMT
#48
i'll rub one out in defiance of the steven syndrome
BW is still out there and a lots of people still watch it. SC2 is a different game and different people. Please go back to BW if you think sc2 is not suited for you - Dustin Browder
SlayerSBriefS
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States37 Posts
June 15 2011 21:01 GMT
#49
i'm not sure how i feel about this thread. what do you call a woman who has given up everything for a guy. and this scenario occurs more often, everywhere around the world, than a guy who gets whipped by a girl.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 15 2011 21:06 GMT
#50
On June 16 2011 06:01 SlayerSBriefS wrote:
i'm not sure how i feel about this thread. what do you call a woman who has given up everything for a guy. and this scenario occurs more often, everywhere around the world, than a guy who gets whipped by a girl.

I don't know that it occurs more often, like I said in a spoiler at the bottom of my OP, I have a friend (girl) who had that problem and just recently broke up and now she's happier.

I'm fine calling it Steven Syndrome too =P
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
June 15 2011 21:13 GMT
#51
I don't want to say I lost a friend (well just maybe). But yeah he clearly has the Steven Syndrome... BRANDON WHY!!!! WHY DO YOU LET HER CONTROL U AS SO!!
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
June 15 2011 23:48 GMT
#52
This happened to one of my friends with skateboarding as well. and a few with gaming. I is s a very sad thing.
gg wp
Asjo
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Denmark664 Posts
June 16 2011 08:41 GMT
#53
On June 16 2011 06:01 SlayerSBriefS wrote:
i'm not sure how i feel about this thread. what do you call a woman who has given up everything for a guy. and this scenario occurs more often, everywhere around the world, than a guy who gets whipped by a girl.


I'm curious about what you mean here. Are you referring to societies where men are still bread-winners and therefore more often are domestic wifes? If so, it's hardly comparable. In such societies, this is the norm rather than a change that happens due to any relationship as such. And in societies where this isn't the norm, those who become housewifes will often desire the lifestyle, which means they aren't really giving up anything against their own desires.

What I wonder is whether many men will feel the need to play such a big role in the lives of their counter-parts that they would ask them to ditch their friends and quit their hobbies. If this is what you're referring to, I would like to hear what examples and experiences you have with this. I doubt it would be very common, but then again, my knowledge is quite limited.
I am not sure what to say
Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
June 16 2011 10:06 GMT
#54
On June 16 2011 02:08 xarthaz wrote:
Its the fluoride in tap water and industrial estrogen in food packaging. It affects neurochemistry making men more feminine. No joke.

Actually I'm pretty sure it's the space station NWO built that sends emasculating radiation all over the world. If anyone tells you otherwise, he's a zionist trying to brainwash you. Not that it affects me, I got a 3 layer tinfoil hat on all the time.
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 10:08:28
June 16 2011 10:07 GMT
#55
Nice story bro. But I first thougth the Steven syndrome was like a trojan horse initiated by a dude who wants to have sex with a girl. He introduces the girl to a wimpy weakling and favors and facilitates them getting together just so he can nail her beside his back, as he is not afraid to do so. Idn why I got that impression from the first lines of this blog. I thought Steven would be a friend of yours who could easily be used in this regard. I'm glad you are not that macabre. I get the Steven syndrome now and it's totally viable to become a psychological term if you ask me
I don't know, lynch me!
Markstar
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany10 Posts
June 16 2011 12:19 GMT
#56
On June 15 2011 09:36 MrCon wrote:
Doesn't the "Steven syndrome" happens to 100% of the men after they have sex for the first time ?
Nope, thankfully not.

My girlfriend (wife soon, I hope - we are together for 14 years and it's about time I pop the question) is the sister of my best friend way back from school. The three of us used to play endless nights of Lords of the Realm together. After that we also played Diablo 2 extensively, though I must admit that she is more of an adventure person (Monkey Island, Days of the Tentacle, Fallout), while I'm more of a Civilization player.

Anyways, we are both looking forward to Diablo 3, even though she is almost finished with her PhD in Biology and I'm a computer scientist.
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
June 16 2011 13:25 GMT
#57
lol - This is fantastic. My friends have a term for this too:

"You've CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANGED."

Your friendships might be more tangible than your relationships, but they will always out-last your relationships too. Making fundamental changes to who you are for a woman is never worth it (unless those changes are generally positive) but following a woman around like a puppy dog is unnecessary. A better one will always come along eventually. Don't hang on to those that bring you down.
Life is not about making due with what you have; it's about finding out just how much you can achieve. Never settle for anything less than the best. - - - Read my blog!
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
June 16 2011 13:41 GMT
#58
I wonder if Destiny is the Steven in this story... or if he ever went through the "Steven Syndrome".... hmm...
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
June 16 2011 13:56 GMT
#59
Let him read this blog, maybe then he'll realize how stupid he was. It's hard to see when you're in the middle of it, anything the girl says to you is sacred even though it's utter bullshit. I know, I had the syndrome myself. In my case all it took was another girl that actually had the syndrome for me. We got rid of both of them and we're happy now. It's hard to help him if he's more of an online friend, but reading the blog can't be bad for him. Maybe then he'll see ~ the problem with this syndrome is that you feel like the girl is the only one who will ever give you what you want, and given this, it's actually quite true because no girl desires a loser (besides the biaaches that want to use them). Once you realize this, there's a world of options for you and you can see her for what she is, just another you don't want to have anything to do with.
En Taro Violet
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 15:30:34
June 16 2011 15:30 GMT
#60
On June 16 2011 19:07 FourFace wrote:
Nice story bro. But I first thougth the Steven syndrome was like a trojan horse initiated by a dude who wants to have sex with a girl. He introduces the girl to a wimpy weakling and favors and facilitates them getting together just so he can nail her beside his back, as he is not afraid to do so. Idn why I got that impression from the first lines of this blog. I thought Steven would be a friend of yours who could easily be used in this regard. I'm glad you are not that macabre. I get the Steven syndrome now and it's totally viable to become a psychological term if you ask me

lol, well I guess Steven kind of was a Trojan horse to some other guys

On June 16 2011 22:41 SEA_GenesiS wrote:
I wonder if Destiny is the Steven in this story... or if he ever went through the "Steven Syndrome".... hmm...

Steven Bonnell is way too much of a baller for that. I don't know if you've heard the story about the MLG groupie girl / SC2 cam whore who sleeps around. She was hanging out with Root guys and was talking to him, didn't stick around when he learned who she was.

I mean he plays SC2 like crazy too, so there's no way he lives with a controlling freak... he couldn't. The guy stands for what he believes.


On June 16 2011 22:56 Stratos wrote:
Let him read this blog, maybe then he'll realize how stupid he was. It's hard to see when you're in the middle of it, anything the girl says to you is sacred even though it's utter bullshit. I know, I had the syndrome myself. In my case all it took was another girl that actually had the syndrome for me. We got rid of both of them and we're happy now. It's hard to help him if he's more of an online friend, but reading the blog can't be bad for him. Maybe then he'll see ~ the problem with this syndrome is that you feel like the girl is the only one who will ever give you what you want, and given this, it's actually quite true because no girl desires a loser (besides the biaaches that want to use them). Once you realize this, there's a world of options for you and you can see her for what she is, just another you don't want to have anything to do with.

I've told him about it, but you know how my word may not mean much to some guy who's life now revolves around a girl who's obviously got much more to give to him than, well, a dude on the Internet. He has to make a shitload of compromises and he's willing to do so - and I can't be super direct to him without being insulting.

This thread is pretty harsh on his gf too, so I don't know if he would take it too well. TBH I've given up and I think it's the right thing to do... If she completely ruins him, then I guess it's too bad. On the other hand, maybe he'll break it off eventually, but really it looks like one of these bad couples that stick together for the wrong reasons.

As for the Steven, well he was another person. We were a lot of guys trying to tell him "bros before hoes" and he was just completely under her spell or whatever. Jason's not as bad because he didn't turn into a zombie (not completely) -- yet.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
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