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I think *spoilers* has the advantage in GSL semis

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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 08:39:48
June 11 2011 08:36 GMT
#1
In regards to the MMA vs. MKP match, I think MMA has all the advantages going into this.

1. He has momentum from MLG.

2. He's literally played nothing but TvT in this tournament so far. And he has SlayerS' all-star Terran Lineup to practice with: Ganzi, Ryung, and the great Boxer himself.

3. MKP may have dominated his opponents so far, but look who his opponents have been. Squirtle, Ace, Revival, and TheBest. And while TheBest might be the only "awful" player among them, none of these guys are even in Code A anymore. He has not faced someone who I would consider to be a high-class Terran. And really, I HIGHLY disagree that TvP is MKP's worst MU. I really believe that TvT has always been his worst matchup ever since his first defeat against MVP in the GSL Finals. After that, I agree with Artosis and think Nada is the one that messed up during their whole Base Trade series, but during that series, Nada got read on his style, and proved it during their next encounter. I think Nada vs. MKP on Tal'Darim was a good indication on the shortcomings of MKP's TvT style. During that match on Tal'Darim, I think MKP's resistance to build Tanks really cost him the match.

If he hasn't really figured out a way to advance his TvT style forward, his match against MMA could easily turn into a repeat of his games against Nada and MVP. With SlayerS having such a good training and coaching regime, you know that MMA is going to have some of the best strategies against MKP and him and his team are going to be studying MKP's previous TvT games and shortcomings extremely carefully.

Meanwhile, MKP does have Maka and Polt to practice with. But I don't think Prime's training or coaching practices are as strong as SlayerS' given their results in the Team Leagues. The one thing MKP does have going for him is the fact that he did beat MMA in their last encounter at the Up/Down matches. MKP is in Code S while MMA remains in Code A.

Keep in mind, I'm saying this as a big fan of MKP. He's my favorite player. But on paper, MMA does look like he will have the advantage going into the Semifinals.

In terms of Top vs. Polt, I think it could really go either way. I think Polt's a more solid player though.

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Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
June 11 2011 08:39 GMT
#2
You forgot to mention that MKP seems to choke when he is under heavy pressure, but i think the series will at least be close. And i 100% agree with your moto.
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
June 11 2011 08:39 GMT
#3
Its MKP in the semifinals...which is pretty scary.

MMA does have loads of momentum though.
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
June 11 2011 08:54 GMT
#4
On June 11 2011 17:39 Yamulo wrote:
You forgot to mention that MKP seems to choke when he is under heavy pressure, but i think the series will at least be close. And i 100% agree with your moto.

I've never heard of that before. Is there any evidence? Because I always thought he was quite confident in all his matches that i've seen
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 10:32:12
June 11 2011 10:31 GMT
#5
Both alicia and line get eliminated and we're left with 4 terrans. Just like first code a semis. I'll probably rewatch Hydra-Jaedong-ZerO-great semis for the 6th time. At least it's a little bit better.

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DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
June 11 2011 10:44 GMT
#6
On June 11 2011 17:36 dabom88 wrote:
In terms of Top vs. Polt, I think it could really go either way. I think Polt's a more solid player though.

I smiled at this After all this discussion about one matchup you just go "yeah this is what I think about the other one."

Fanboyism is beginning to kick in for me. MMA is going to crush the last opposition, he is just so good.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
June 11 2011 10:48 GMT
#7
There's so much focus on MMA because of his recent achievements GSTL, MLG etc, but MKP is just a super solid player, I can't predict it, but I know it will be an excellent series.
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EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
June 11 2011 10:57 GMT
#8
I think this year's winner will have his IGN starting with M again!
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dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
June 11 2011 10:59 GMT
#9
^^ Yeah there's only a 75% chance of that happening :p
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 11 2011 11:06 GMT
#10
I think a lot of MKP's strengths lie in early game pressure, which might exploit some early-game weaknesses in MMA's builds. However, MMA has proven to be one of the best comeback-masters in the scene, oftentimes being resilient and winning despite an early-game deficit.

If MKP's early-game pressure does not damage MMA enough, he may find himself in a lot of trouble since MKP tends to have extremely questionable decision-making in the mid and late game, whereas MMA thrives off of tearing his opponent apart with superior multitasking and decision-making in those sections of the game.
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
June 11 2011 15:12 GMT
#11
On June 11 2011 20:06 eviltomahawk wrote:


If MKP's early-game pressure does not damage MMA enough, he may find himself in a lot of trouble since MKP tends to have extremely questionable decision-making in the mid and late game, whereas MMA thrives off of tearing his opponent apart with superior multitasking and decision-making in those sections of the game.

'

Thats an incredibly false statement. In fact, MKP has some of the BEST decision making in the lategame, hence he can base trade so effectively in TvT.

If anything, its MMA's early game weakness that iwll hurt him. MKP in an easy 3-1.
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MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
June 12 2011 07:26 GMT
#12
Polt is anything but the more solid player compared to TOP, that's just how i feel. If Top forces the game into macro, Polt will be like a fish in a bucket.

I am sensing Top in the finals if he can hold of Polt's timing pushes and early game harrasses, something I guarantee he will do. In the MKP vs MMA matchup, I think it favors MMA. MMA is so meticulous and patient in TvT, it's hard to penetrate him while he keeps up the pressure with some precise positioning and multi-pronged harass all game long. I think patience is what's going to decide that matchup, something I don't think MKP has as much of, he's not great at the TvT positional war, perhaps due to his lack of usage in tanks, though we haven't seen much of his TvT lately, the match vs TheBest was not informative.
Raigeki
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong207 Posts
June 12 2011 10:38 GMT
#13
but MKP is destined to go to the finals.... only to get 2nd place again... (hope not xD)
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
June 12 2011 11:24 GMT
#14
On June 12 2011 19:38 Raigeki wrote:
but MKP is destined to go to the finals.... only to get 2nd place again... (hope not xD)


Personally I think MKP is easily better than both Polt and Top. I personally think the winner of MMA vs. MKP will decide the winner of the Championship.
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 12:41:27
June 13 2011 10:48 GMT
#15
Match isn't over, but calling it right now, my prediction is + Show Spoiler +
proving to be right
.

Edit: Match is over and my prediction + Show Spoiler +
was 2 for 2. Must be psychic or something
.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
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