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MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
May 30 2011 03:17 GMT
#1
Hey guys,

I wrote this while sitting in the airport this morning. Wanted to wait until after tonight's cast to post it, though. <3

So right now its 5 AM on a Sunday morning. I'm red-eyed and a little bit hung over from the Dave and Buster's party last night, but I'm also absolutely giddy over the last week. The Starcraft community is so amazing, and having the opportunity to come out here and pretend to be a caster for a week has been great. The whole reason I'm writing this is just to share with everyone my experience for the week, and also to go on the record about my take on casting, and some of the perceptions of people that are in these roles.

On Travelling....

So I flew out here a week ago. I had a 7AM flight out of Atlanta that was supposed to connect once in Phoenix, and then land me in Ontario, California around like noon. Of course, that's not how it went down. My flight out of Atlanta was cancelled, and - as anyone who's ever flown out of Atlanta can attest to - getting any sort of help in sorting out my new travel plans was a headache. I got to do stuff like wait in line for 2 hours, missing the only other flight direct to Phoenix, and instead getting to go from Atlanta to Charlotte, to Phoenix, to Vegas (wtf?), to California. Total travel time: something like 16 hours. Nice.

Going home wasn't (isn't?) any easier. I was actually supposed to leave yesterday, but a bomb threat at the airport messed up some schedules, and then my own incompetence found me stuck here for an extra night. No biggy, of course, as it allowed me to attend the Dave and Buster's meet and greet, which was totally freaking awesome. Did you know astronauts are Starcraft fans too? True story.

On Casting....

So I've never really considered myself a caster. I've commentated a showmatch or two, and, of course, I do my show, but at the end of the day, the amount of games that I had literally "casted" before coming out here could have probably been counted on one hand. The prospect of coming into a real studio (contrary to popular belief, NASL is actually NOT produced in iNcontroL's basement) and live-casting the world's best players in front of a pretty substantial audience was a little bit nerve-wracking. Gretorp really helped to take the pressure off, and I want to speak to that for a minute.

On Gretorp....

So this guy has caught some flack, and the God's-honest-truth is I don't understand why. He is literally one of the smartest (maybe the smartest) Terran players outside of Korea. His analysis is
absolutely 100% correct, 100% of the time in the Terran matchups, and I'd say in the non-Terran matchups, he's still batting about .950. There were literally at least 100 occasions this week where I didn't have a clue about wtf was happening on screen. Whenever that happened I was just like "and what do you think, Gretorp!?", and every single time he killed it. He's an amazing resource, and, in my opinion, a fantastic caster. Working with him was freaking great, and I really hope that the community enjoyed the dynamic we had going on.

On Analysis....

Speaking of analysis - %^&* that's hard to do. It's easy for even a platinum level player to watch a replay a couple of times and pick up on things that could be better, or that might need to change completely. Calling that stuff on the fly isn't always as straight-forward, primarily because things just can't be unsaid. There were a couple times when I would make a call, and immediately think to myself "oh God that was so wrong" but when you're being recorded, and when the game is live, you can't really go back and undo those mistakes. My favorite blunder was from Boxer vs. Cloud, + Show Spoiler +
where I literally said "no way is Cloud in a good position to push here" mere seconds before he a-moved through the entire map, winnig the game. "lol bitter".


Obviously, I'm a Zerg player, and my knowledge of the Zerg matchups is a lot more thorough, but being out here has really, really underscored (for me, at least) how bad my understanding of the other races is. Calling PvP was especially hard because I couldn't just pass it off to Gretorp every time I got confused. To be fair, though, I don't think anyone really knows wtf is going on in PvP these days...

On Arm-Chair Quarterbacks....

Admittedly, I'm probably using the term wrong here, as casters are the epitome of the "arm-chair quarterback", but this feels like an appropriate time to call out the vocal minority. When somebody is wrong about something (casters especially, because we genuinely WANT to improve) then put it out there. Tell us how we screwed up, call us bad, whatever. But make sure that you know wtf you're talking about when you do. Nothing is more frustrating (at least in my opinion) than the people that show up in the live report threads and spread misinformation. It's bad for the community, and it doesn't help anybody. My favorite example of this: "wtf, Zerg isn't behind, he has a 20 supply lead over Protoss". It's not always as simple as "whoever has more supply is ahead."

On receiving criticsm....

I've been pretty overwhelmed by the amount of positive feedback I've received since this whole little adventure began. I came out here ready to get eaten up by reddit and TL alike, but to my astonishment, most people were pretty receptive of my attempts at play-by-play. (yay!) But there are still critics out there, and they are 100% justified. I made plenty of bad calls, and probably came off a little whiney (c'mon, I play Zerg...) and those are things I definitely want to improve on. Please, tell me how I can be better. I don't know what the future holds for me in terms of casting, but the next time I do it, I want to be noticably better.

On racial bias....

One thing that I'm not sure that I want to change is my racial bias. Maybe I went a little overboard this week, but I want people to understand that part of that was for the back and forth between Gretorp and me. It's fun being up there on camera and joking about how hard it is to be Zerg, or how overpowered creep is. I've watched every broadcast that I took part in, and I agree I could tone it down in some places, but I think one of the roles of a caster is to be opinionated. It gives depth to the show. If anyone out there was a Braves fan in the 90s, you have to remember Skip Carey's amazing call of "Braves Win! Braves Win!" when the Braves beat the Pirates to advance to the World Series in 1992. Skip was a huge Braves fan, and people loved it when he showed it. Maybe that level of bias doesn't really work for Starcraft, but I absolutely feel like a little bit is good for the show.

On the future....

Being a part of the whole NASL experience was pretty great this week. I literally have no idea what the future holds for me. I want to continue to work on improving my own personal play level, but after this week, I'm feeling a pretty big calling to work on my off-races so I can better understand the game from an analytical point of view. Obviously that means taking a couple steps back so that I can (hopefully) take twice as many strides forward. That's going to have to wait at least one more week, though, as MLG is just days away, and to off-race before that would be a little bit silly.

Speaking of MLG....

And of live events in general, everybody needs to go. It's one of the most awesome gamer atmospheres imaginable, and Columbus is shaping up to be one of the greatest shows ever. Also, don't forget to get those Blizzcon tickets (hopefully I'll see you guys there) and don't even think about missing the NASL finals. Insider scoop: The finals are going to be freaking incredible. Like, indescribably, mind bogglingly amazing. (And it's going to be the biggest purse EVER in the foreigner scene)

And lastly, a thanks....

Thanks to everybody for being so supportive! You guys watching my show, and sending all the positive (and even negative!) feedback - It's amazing, and I'm so greatful. Without that support I would have never been given this opportunity. The Starcraft community is the best on the planet, and I can't wait to see how big it really gets.

****
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 30 2011 03:22 GMT
#2
Your example of Skip Carey is pretty poor IMO, since there were probably very few Pirates fans listening to his broadcasts!
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 03:23:39
May 30 2011 03:23 GMT
#3
Haters gonna hate. But I loved your accent and analysis. Well done, I don't think anybody could've picked up that this was one of your first times casting. Great job all week.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 30 2011 03:24 GMT
#4
Sounds like you went all-in!

I kid, I kid. Keep it up. You did fine.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 30 2011 03:24 GMT
#5
I loved your casting Mr. Bitter. Haven't heard of you before Nasl and I liked what I saw. Keep up the good work

Also seems a bit too coincidental that you post this exactly as the Nasl live stream just goes through a major hick-up. We missed the whole top 10 and pre-show of cloud vs boxer. Are these things related or just a coincidence? Do you have any insider's insight about why these issues keep hapenning on a production with so much money supporting it?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
May 30 2011 03:30 GMT
#6
On May 30 2011 12:24 VIB wrote:
I loved your casting Mr. Bitter. Haven't heard of you before Nasl and I liked what I saw. Keep up the good work

Also seems a bit too coincidental that you post this exactly as the Nasl live stream just goes through a major hick-up. We missed the whole top 10 and pre-show of cloud vs boxer. Are these things related or just a coincidence? Do you have any insider's insight about why these issues keep hapenning on a production with so much money supporting it?


Not really sure that it's my place to speak to this, but a lot of it comes down to growing pains. There are tremendous strides being taken to improve the quality of the stream, and of the broadcasts in general.

The folks behind the NASL truly want to create the best experience possible, both in terms of creating opportunities for players, and in putting on a great show.

Awesome things are coming, and nobody is more aware of the hiccups and the setbacks than the people standing at the heart of NASL.
Gaius Baltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
May 30 2011 03:31 GMT
#7
Are you going to be at MLG Colombus? Because this week I decided you are fucking cool and I should probably get my picture taken with you.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
May 30 2011 03:32 GMT
#8
On May 30 2011 12:31 Gaius Baltar wrote:
Are you going to be at MLG Colombus? Because this week I decided you are fucking cool and I should probably get my picture taken with you.


Yep, I'll be at all the MLGs this year.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
May 30 2011 03:39 GMT
#9
On May 30 2011 12:22 motbob wrote:
Your example of Skip Carey is pretty poor IMO, since there were probably very few Pirates fans listening to his broadcasts!

I have to emphasize this - while casting style is something that is totally up to you, NASL is a national cast similar to how ESPN would cast the baseball playoffs, and I don't believe those commentators are too biased.

Your casting was excellent though; I really enjoyed it
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Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
May 30 2011 03:39 GMT
#10
Watching you right now. Doing (Did I suppose) a fantastic job MrBitter.
RIP MBC Game Hero
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
May 30 2011 03:40 GMT
#11
Great job casting man, really did enjoy it as a long time fan of the show and your stream (since it was still on i think livestream lol). But really good casts and it is unfortunate that you are done casting the nasl at least as of now. Keep up the good work =D
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
May 30 2011 03:40 GMT
#12
Please cast more <3

Thought you were great and have identified some of the things that you can improve on which is exactly what you should be doing as a caster imho. Not much more to say, but I wanted to say that I enjoyed your casting and look forward to you casting future events
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
May 30 2011 03:46 GMT
#13
I think you did an amazing job this week. You were professional, knowledgeable, and I will definitely be tuning into your stream a lot more from now on! People on here and r/Starcraft simply loves you. Hope to see you cast a lot more in the future!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
May 30 2011 03:47 GMT
#14
I actually thought your casting was amazing! Its ok if you make mistakes, that's the part of improving. GL on your future cast!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 30 2011 03:53 GMT
#15
I loved your casts you did. You can Gretorp have got to be my favourite pair of SC2 casters thus far, only to be topped by Day[9] couple with Day[9].

Keep it up!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
May 30 2011 03:59 GMT
#16
I thought you did a great job, and I'm extremely picky. I think an important skill for a caster is learning to take most criticism (albeit not all) with a grain of salt. Seriously, some of that criticism truly and simply needs to be ignored. As for racial bias, it's fine as long as it doesn't cross the line into whining.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
May 30 2011 04:11 GMT
#17
Hey Mr.Bitter, I think you did good man, really did enjoy the casts, and I liked the way you fit in with gretorp too. Good stuff! (I actually started watching the 12 weeks series after I saw your casting :D)
sihttingdikcnpiples
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 04:42:39
May 30 2011 04:13 GMT
#18
You're in my top 3 casters for sure, and I've only heard you this week.
Will definitely check out your other work later. You should cast more!
touch me
Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
May 30 2011 04:22 GMT
#19
You're fucking awesome Bitter. You've done so much for this community.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
May 30 2011 04:23 GMT
#20
Your awesome MrBitter, you were made for this job!
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