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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
May 28 2011 11:52 GMT
#1
So I've already graduated, and spent a year working, I suppose. Basically a job a high schooler could do, at a restaurant. The reason was a plan to move to California in the next year, and now I'm about to move to California (about 2 weeks). I was wondering how to go about finding a job, i don't exactly have business connections in California (SF), and my grades were just average, around 2.3 or so (Econ).

Just wondering how others found jobs when you weren't some star in school or had an internship set up right from graduation. It's not really that obvious, that or I'm dumb. I also have some 'exigent' circumstances making this situation actually a lot more complicated than this, but I'll just leave the conversation here for now.

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maahes`ra
Profile Joined January 2011
United States255 Posts
May 28 2011 11:55 GMT
#2
Craigslist might be your best bet at first, just to get a job so you can afford the basics. After you've got that, try the resume sites like Monster. o:

Best of luck~. ^__^
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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
May 28 2011 12:11 GMT
#3
It took my friends brother months before he got job as a computer engineer. I think he did A LOT to get his name out there in the hopes of someone picking him up. Not sure what you can do with econ, but I bet it'll be just as hard if not harder to find a job =(.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
May 28 2011 12:30 GMT
#4
If you just want a job as soon as possible, I highly recommend registering with every local staffing agency in the area you will be living in. They drastically decrease the amount of time required to find a job. However, the positions will almost always be temporary or at best contract-to-possible-hire. That also means you may be working on a 6-month contract, without any benefits. Like I said though, at least you would be making money and gaining job experience.

Otherwise, see if your school has a career center facility. Schedule a meeting to discuss what you want to do and gain advice on how to do it. Also, do research on your own about the job search process. There's a lot to learn.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 12:41:43
May 28 2011 12:40 GMT
#5
I went back to school for my master's degree since I can't get a job straight out of university especially in the just recovering economy

I would suggest schooling as a possibility since it can never hurt you to get a better degree
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 28 2011 13:05 GMT
#6
On May 28 2011 21:30 EscPlan9 wrote:
If you just want a job as soon as possible, I highly recommend registering with every local staffing agency in the area you will be living in. They drastically decrease the amount of time required to find a job. However, the positions will almost always be temporary or at best contract-to-possible-hire. That also means you may be working on a 6-month contract, without any benefits. Like I said though, at least you would be making money and gaining job experience.

Otherwise, see if your school has a career center facility. Schedule a meeting to discuss what you want to do and gain advice on how to do it. Also, do research on your own about the job search process. There's a lot to learn.

I found a staffing job last summer but it was a factory job. And what EscPlan9 is saying is true, the job was temporary for everyone involved. I didn't find that it gave me any useful work experience because it was a factory job, outside of being able to meet deadlines and communicating.

Do staffing agencies have seasonal programming related jobs?
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
May 28 2011 13:31 GMT
#7
Well if your looking for any job just go around town and look for places you would be interested in working. Wear something nice do your hair and clean yourself up go inside ask if they are looking for employment and fill out an application. Thats how I got my first 2 jobs, Or just network out and see if you can find anyone who knows someone who is hiring.
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awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
May 28 2011 15:21 GMT
#8
2.3 out of 4?
That's like getting a C in half your classes, unless I'm mistaken
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
May 28 2011 15:26 GMT
#9
On May 29 2011 00:21 awu25 wrote:
2.3 out of 4?
That's like getting a C in half your classes, unless I'm mistaken


Hopefully he meant 3.2 ...
nMn
Profile Joined February 2009
United States144 Posts
May 28 2011 16:45 GMT
#10
Rent is quite high in SF. You might want to put in a few applications and get some callbacks before making the move.

I'm in the same situation as you right now, came out of school with a 3.0~ GPA and been throwing my resume to every job opening that i'm qualified for. Just apply and call to let them know you're interested. Finding a career is like working full time in itself.
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
May 28 2011 19:38 GMT
#11
2.3? You better have been partying everyday or something.
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
May 28 2011 20:54 GMT
#12
Apply apply and apply some more. Use craigslist, placement agencies, and get involved in something that makes you more marketable (good skills and experience can trump grades in an interview). You're not above anything at this point, so get a job that pays the bills and don't stop searching. Many people settle on something that provides the lifestyle they want, and that's definitely an option, but in my opinion you should keep going until you find something you enjoy. It's not an instant process and will take a lot of time (years). Good luck!
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
May 28 2011 23:21 GMT
#13
Craigslist might be your best bet at first, just to get a job so you can afford the basics. After you've got that, try the resume sites like Monster. o:


I don't mean to sound like a jerk - I'm only going to come off either that way, or bitter, but sites like Monster and yahoo jobs and the many, many others are horrible. They are too generic, and they are 'trolled' by sales companies who pay employees nothing and are 100% commission so they either get a cut, or suffer zero loses, building a cult-like sales team that's all about hard work, but when you crunch the numbers they actually make barely minimum wage even when they are doing enough sales to be 'top salesman' or recognized. It's so fucking... cultish! I mean I'm all for ripping off stupid people by taking advantage of them, but you don't even make money doing it (and that's just assuming one is okay with doing that too, which I probably could be - I like hard work, it's not the lack of morals).

At first i was like "OMG! So many people want me! I have 20 interviews set up just this week!" and every - single - one - was a ridiculous sales job where you sell stuff not just what people don't need, but stuff like they have no use for at all that they could get better much easier elsewhere, and that's not even to mention how much scummy stuff people do like pretending to be the customer to get authorization for something that 'takes 20 minutes to explain and would lose the sale' or tacking on 5 "security encryption email accounts' for a pitiful $20 extra for yourself that costs the customer $50 a year.

And yes, I went to every single interview because I thought I just had the integrity, rather than ignorance and stupidity. And yes, I even took up some of those jobs, and going door to door to hard working businesses in 90* weather - which is okay, mind you, I'm not scared of really, really hard work, to cold sell people on something they don't need - which is okay, you have to pay the bills - to do a job where you were encouraged to cheat (but of course management does not approve!) and lie to the retailer about customer authorization (which is okay, because you need money and you're moving up right?) to make minimum wage (RED ALERT: NOT OKAY?!?).

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SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
May 28 2011 23:27 GMT
#14
On May 28 2011 21:40 ZeromuS wrote:
I went back to school for my master's degree since I can't get a job straight out of university especially in the just recovering economy

I would suggest schooling as a possibility since it can never hurt you to get a better degree


correction, it can. Getting a better degree doesn't guarantee him a job just like the one he has now doesn't. So it can hurt him if he has student loans or whatever.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
May 28 2011 23:29 GMT
#15
I'll give you two simple pieces of advice that have served me well throughout several job searches over my 18 years in the workforce:

1) Simplify your resume.

Limit your resume to what you need to communicate to get the job. Don't write paragraphs. Keep your descriptions of what you've done simple. That said, DO include non-work things like major school projects, a thesis if you wrote one, or any projects you've done outside of work that relate DIRECTLY to the job you want. (Note that this does mean that you most likely want to leave the Starcraft off the resume unless you're looking for a gaming-related job.)

2) Let EVERY ADULT you know, family, friends, everyone, that you're looking for work

This is important. People actually do refer other people they know for jobs every day, and in fact in my experience this is probably how 80% of jobs get filled. The people you know can help you, and the odds go up directly with how many people know you're looking. Don't pester anyone, but be sure to get the word out!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
May 28 2011 23:31 GMT
#16

2.3 out of 4?
That's like getting a C in half your classes, unless I'm mistaken


Thanks. I'll make a long and extremely personal story very short, and really as about as long as it needs to be - I was a complete idiot and got myself into trouble. Sure, you could say I was partying everyday.

Apply apply and apply some more. Use craigslist, placement agencies, and get involved in something that makes you more marketable (good skills and experience can trump grades in an interview). You're not above anything at this point, so get a job that pays the bills and don't stop searching. Many people settle on something that provides the lifestyle they want, and that's definitely an option, but in my opinion you should keep going until you find something you enjoy. It's not an instant process and will take a lot of time (years). Good luck!


I managed a pizza delivery restaurant, and was a driver for a while (also was pretty much since 16, from high school to college job part time to full time this year).

I hope I can market myself as having management experience - hopefully banks and the like won't say "LoL... you mean pizza restaurant manager".

My plan will be to apply for pizza delivery the moment I get there so I have a job the minute I'm out there (easy, I'm confident this will work, has worked last 7 years of my life basically, always need drivers and its easy job at least $13/hr). Then, I will apply to banks, probably as a teller to work myself up, and apply to the Federal Reserve (economist dream job right)?

On the side, I will search craigslist and online sites like Monster (I dont expect anything from that, but will still try). I may also try to apply computer stuff, as while i didn't take computer stuff in school, I do know how to build one, am competent on hardware and how to use one, and well, who doesn't like computers on teamliquid.

The 'best' thing will probably be something economist related that's an internship, so I will apply for internships (maybe through these 'staffing agencies' or through job websites, but since I'm graduated that may be hard?). I'll also try to find job fairs and the like, I find nothing here but apparently they must happen. Oh well.

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SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 23:35:37
May 28 2011 23:33 GMT
#17
On May 29 2011 08:29 Lysenko wrote:
I'll give you two simple pieces of advice that have served me well throughout several job searches over my 18 years in the workforce:

1) Simplify your resume.

Limit your resume to what you need to communicate to get the job. Don't write paragraphs. Keep your descriptions of what you've done simple. That said, DO include non-work things like major school projects, a thesis if you wrote one, or any projects you've done outside of work that relate DIRECTLY to the job you want. (Note that this does mean that you most likely want to leave the Starcraft off the resume unless you're looking for a gaming-related job.)

2) Let EVERY ADULT you know, family, friends, everyone, that you're looking for work

This is important. People actually do refer other people they know for jobs every day, and in fact in my experience this is probably how 80% of jobs get filled. The people you know can help you, and the odds go up directly with how many people know you're looking. Don't pester anyone, but be sure to get the word out!


I actually went to an interview where the guy told me the opposite of the first. I had just 3-4 simple lines for each job and he would ask me questions and told me that he has been conducting interviews for years for CEOs CFOs etc and that everything that I told him that wasn't on there should be. Now i've got like 10+ things listed for each job, concise as possible I just listed every important duty I had.

But the 2nd is really important. I've only gotten shitty minimum wage retail/grocery store type jobs on my own. It's definitely not what you know, it's who you know.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
May 28 2011 23:36 GMT
#18
On May 29 2011 08:33 SpoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 08:29 Lysenko wrote:
1) Simplify your resume.


I actually went to an interview where the guy told me the opposite of the first. I had just 3-4 simple lines for each job and he would ask me questions and told me that he has been conducting interviews for years for CEOs CFOs etc and that everything that I told him that wasn't on there should be. Now i've got like 10+ things listed for each job, concise as possible I just listed every important duty I had.



That's actually more what I meant than I think what you got from what I wrote. Yes, be complete about your duties for a particular job, but I'd recommend bullet points rather than an essay, and I also suggest that people leave out the super-soft-stuff like "realized efficiencies to simplify my tasks" or whatever.

Running what you have through the filter of "I know this is a common resume phrase, but does it actually mean anything??" helps a lot.
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yesplz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States295 Posts
May 29 2011 00:23 GMT
#19
Get your name out there. If you're looking for a job in a specific field, find every organization you can that has to do with that field and sign up to all their newsletters and whatnot and look out specifically for events where you can communicate with members of those organizations. Then go network.
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