Just wondering how others found jobs when you weren't some star in school or had an internship set up right from graduation. It's not really that obvious, that or I'm dumb. I also have some 'exigent' circumstances making this situation actually a lot more complicated than this, but I'll just leave the conversation here for now.
How to find a job out of school?
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
Just wondering how others found jobs when you weren't some star in school or had an internship set up right from graduation. It's not really that obvious, that or I'm dumb. I also have some 'exigent' circumstances making this situation actually a lot more complicated than this, but I'll just leave the conversation here for now. | ||
maahes`ra
United States255 Posts
Best of luck~. ^__^ | ||
Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
Otherwise, see if your school has a career center facility. Schedule a meeting to discuss what you want to do and gain advice on how to do it. Also, do research on your own about the job search process. There's a lot to learn. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13378 Posts
I would suggest schooling as a possibility since it can never hurt you to get a better degree | ||
obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On May 28 2011 21:30 EscPlan9 wrote: If you just want a job as soon as possible, I highly recommend registering with every local staffing agency in the area you will be living in. They drastically decrease the amount of time required to find a job. However, the positions will almost always be temporary or at best contract-to-possible-hire. That also means you may be working on a 6-month contract, without any benefits. Like I said though, at least you would be making money and gaining job experience. Otherwise, see if your school has a career center facility. Schedule a meeting to discuss what you want to do and gain advice on how to do it. Also, do research on your own about the job search process. There's a lot to learn. I found a staffing job last summer but it was a factory job. And what EscPlan9 is saying is true, the job was temporary for everyone involved. I didn't find that it gave me any useful work experience because it was a factory job, outside of being able to meet deadlines and communicating. Do staffing agencies have seasonal programming related jobs? | ||
SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
That's like getting a C in half your classes, unless I'm mistaken | ||
lac29
United States1485 Posts
On May 29 2011 00:21 awu25 wrote: 2.3 out of 4? That's like getting a C in half your classes, unless I'm mistaken Hopefully he meant 3.2 ... | ||
nMn
United States144 Posts
I'm in the same situation as you right now, came out of school with a 3.0~ GPA and been throwing my resume to every job opening that i'm qualified for. Just apply and call to let them know you're interested. Finding a career is like working full time in itself. | ||
Mickey
United States2606 Posts
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Servius_Fulvius
United States947 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
Craigslist might be your best bet at first, just to get a job so you can afford the basics. After you've got that, try the resume sites like Monster. o: I don't mean to sound like a jerk - I'm only going to come off either that way, or bitter, but sites like Monster and yahoo jobs and the many, many others are horrible. They are too generic, and they are 'trolled' by sales companies who pay employees nothing and are 100% commission so they either get a cut, or suffer zero loses, building a cult-like sales team that's all about hard work, but when you crunch the numbers they actually make barely minimum wage even when they are doing enough sales to be 'top salesman' or recognized. It's so fucking... cultish! I mean I'm all for ripping off stupid people by taking advantage of them, but you don't even make money doing it (and that's just assuming one is okay with doing that too, which I probably could be - I like hard work, it's not the lack of morals). At first i was like "OMG! So many people want me! I have 20 interviews set up just this week!" and every - single - one - was a ridiculous sales job where you sell stuff not just what people don't need, but stuff like they have no use for at all that they could get better much easier elsewhere, and that's not even to mention how much scummy stuff people do like pretending to be the customer to get authorization for something that 'takes 20 minutes to explain and would lose the sale' or tacking on 5 "security encryption email accounts' for a pitiful $20 extra for yourself that costs the customer $50 a year. And yes, I went to every single interview because I thought I just had the integrity, rather than ignorance and stupidity. And yes, I even took up some of those jobs, and going door to door to hard working businesses in 90* weather - which is okay, mind you, I'm not scared of really, really hard work, to cold sell people on something they don't need - which is okay, you have to pay the bills - to do a job where you were encouraged to cheat (but of course management does not approve!) and lie to the retailer about customer authorization (which is okay, because you need money and you're moving up right?) to make minimum wage (RED ALERT: NOT OKAY?!?). | ||
SpoR
United States1542 Posts
On May 28 2011 21:40 ZeromuS wrote: I went back to school for my master's degree since I can't get a job straight out of university especially in the just recovering economy I would suggest schooling as a possibility since it can never hurt you to get a better degree correction, it can. Getting a better degree doesn't guarantee him a job just like the one he has now doesn't. So it can hurt him if he has student loans or whatever. | ||
Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
1) Simplify your resume. Limit your resume to what you need to communicate to get the job. Don't write paragraphs. Keep your descriptions of what you've done simple. That said, DO include non-work things like major school projects, a thesis if you wrote one, or any projects you've done outside of work that relate DIRECTLY to the job you want. (Note that this does mean that you most likely want to leave the Starcraft off the resume unless you're looking for a gaming-related job.) 2) Let EVERY ADULT you know, family, friends, everyone, that you're looking for work This is important. People actually do refer other people they know for jobs every day, and in fact in my experience this is probably how 80% of jobs get filled. The people you know can help you, and the odds go up directly with how many people know you're looking. Don't pester anyone, but be sure to get the word out! | ||
Belial88
United States5217 Posts
2.3 out of 4? That's like getting a C in half your classes, unless I'm mistaken Thanks. I'll make a long and extremely personal story very short, and really as about as long as it needs to be - I was a complete idiot and got myself into trouble. Sure, you could say I was partying everyday. Apply apply and apply some more. Use craigslist, placement agencies, and get involved in something that makes you more marketable (good skills and experience can trump grades in an interview). You're not above anything at this point, so get a job that pays the bills and don't stop searching. Many people settle on something that provides the lifestyle they want, and that's definitely an option, but in my opinion you should keep going until you find something you enjoy. It's not an instant process and will take a lot of time (years). Good luck! I managed a pizza delivery restaurant, and was a driver for a while (also was pretty much since 16, from high school to college job part time to full time this year). I hope I can market myself as having management experience - hopefully banks and the like won't say "LoL... you mean pizza restaurant manager". My plan will be to apply for pizza delivery the moment I get there so I have a job the minute I'm out there (easy, I'm confident this will work, has worked last 7 years of my life basically, always need drivers and its easy job at least $13/hr). Then, I will apply to banks, probably as a teller to work myself up, and apply to the Federal Reserve (economist dream job right)? On the side, I will search craigslist and online sites like Monster (I dont expect anything from that, but will still try). I may also try to apply computer stuff, as while i didn't take computer stuff in school, I do know how to build one, am competent on hardware and how to use one, and well, who doesn't like computers on teamliquid. The 'best' thing will probably be something economist related that's an internship, so I will apply for internships (maybe through these 'staffing agencies' or through job websites, but since I'm graduated that may be hard?). I'll also try to find job fairs and the like, I find nothing here but apparently they must happen. Oh well. | ||
SpoR
United States1542 Posts
On May 29 2011 08:29 Lysenko wrote: I'll give you two simple pieces of advice that have served me well throughout several job searches over my 18 years in the workforce: 1) Simplify your resume. Limit your resume to what you need to communicate to get the job. Don't write paragraphs. Keep your descriptions of what you've done simple. That said, DO include non-work things like major school projects, a thesis if you wrote one, or any projects you've done outside of work that relate DIRECTLY to the job you want. (Note that this does mean that you most likely want to leave the Starcraft off the resume unless you're looking for a gaming-related job.) 2) Let EVERY ADULT you know, family, friends, everyone, that you're looking for work This is important. People actually do refer other people they know for jobs every day, and in fact in my experience this is probably how 80% of jobs get filled. The people you know can help you, and the odds go up directly with how many people know you're looking. Don't pester anyone, but be sure to get the word out! I actually went to an interview where the guy told me the opposite of the first. I had just 3-4 simple lines for each job and he would ask me questions and told me that he has been conducting interviews for years for CEOs CFOs etc and that everything that I told him that wasn't on there should be. Now i've got like 10+ things listed for each job, concise as possible I just listed every important duty I had. But the 2nd is really important. I've only gotten shitty minimum wage retail/grocery store type jobs on my own. It's definitely not what you know, it's who you know. | ||
Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On May 29 2011 08:33 SpoR wrote: I actually went to an interview where the guy told me the opposite of the first. I had just 3-4 simple lines for each job and he would ask me questions and told me that he has been conducting interviews for years for CEOs CFOs etc and that everything that I told him that wasn't on there should be. Now i've got like 10+ things listed for each job, concise as possible I just listed every important duty I had. That's actually more what I meant than I think what you got from what I wrote. Yes, be complete about your duties for a particular job, but I'd recommend bullet points rather than an essay, and I also suggest that people leave out the super-soft-stuff like "realized efficiencies to simplify my tasks" or whatever. Running what you have through the filter of "I know this is a common resume phrase, but does it actually mean anything??" helps a lot. | ||
yesplz
United States295 Posts
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