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T-ara Girls' Fantasies

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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 19:35:33
May 05 2011 15:14 GMT
#1
It's my TeamLiquid account's first birthday. With milestone posts a TL tradition, I been pondering hard over a proper commemorative post that will fit the number crunching centric blog that I have took pride to work on over the year. Hopefully this is will qualify, but if not, there's always next year.



Problem Statement

Every GSL season, GOMTV collaborate with a K-pop group in a cross-promotion effort - the group gets international and domestic exposure to thrones of sex-starved young men, and GOMTV gets cute girls on the show. In GSL6, the "pop sensation" T-ara not only will perform at the Code S Championship, but also has been introducing each player at the beginning of every match.

Besides the Q-Ri Curse, have the other T-ara girls fared any better? Using the points system of FantasyGSL rules, I will objectively determine who is the best T-ara girl.


[image loading]


Salary Analysis

+ Show Spoiler [T-ara girls' Fantasy Salaries] +

JiYeon’s picks
[image loading]
300[image loading] - (T)NaDa,
175[image loading] - (T)LosirA
150[image loading] - (Z)NesTea, (T)SuperNoVa
50[image loading] - (Z)Killer

HyoMin’s picks
[image loading]
500[image loading] - (P)MC
175[image loading] - (T)Clide
100[image loading] - (T)TOP, (Z)CheckPrime, (T)Ensnare

EunJung’s picks
[image loading]
250[image loading] - (P)anypro
125[image loading] - (P)Alicia
25[image loading] - (T)Polt, (Z)FruitDealer, (P)InCa

BoRam’s picks
[image loading]
225[image loading] - (T)sC, (T)Lyn
150[image loading] - (P)MarineKing, (P)HongUn
50[image loading] - (P)Virus

SoYeon’s picks
[image loading]
350[image loading] - (Z)July
300[image loading] - (P)San
150[image loading] - (T)Byun
50[image loading] - (Z)Zenio

Q-Ri’s picks
[image loading]
175[image loading] - Trickster
100[image loading] - (Z)TheWinD, (Z)Kyrix
50[image loading] - (P)HuK

HwaYoung’s picks
[image loading]
225[image loading] - (T)Jinro
50[image loading] - (T)Rain, (T)Genius
25[image loading] - (P)RainBOw

None of the T-ara girls filled up their salary cap, a poor practice for any fantasy league. Even more troubling is that none of them picked Code A players, rather unfortunate considering that Code A players are better fantasy value than their Code S counterparts.

The most expensive fantasy team (HyoMin's at 975[image loading]) is nearly three times the salary of the cheapest (HwaYoung's at 350[image loading]). The girls can be largely separated into having two different fantasy strategies - premium versus value:

Premium:
975[image loading] - HyoMin's fantasy
850[image loading] - SoYeon's fantasy
825[image loading] - JiYeon's fantasy
800[image loading] - BoRam's fantasy
Value:
450[image loading] - EunJing's fantasy
425[image loading] - Q-Ri's fantasy
350[image loading] - HwaYoung's fantasy



Points Analysis

+ Show Spoiler [T-ara Girls Fantasy Points] +

JiYeon’s picks:
[image loading]
ro4: (T)NaDa (7-2 still alive), (Z)NesTea (7-3 still alive)
ro8: (T)LosirA (4-4), (Z)Killer (4-5)
ro16: (T)SuperNoVa (2-2)

HyoMin’s picks:
[image loading]
ro8: (T)TOP (5-4)
ro16: (T)Clide (3-2)
Group: (Z)Check (0-2), (T)Ensnare (0-2), oGs_MC (1-2)

EunJung’s picks:
[image loading]
ro4: (P)InCa (7-1 still alive)
ro8: (P)anypro (5-5)
ro16: (T)Polt (3-3), (P)Alicia (3-2), (Z)FruitDealer (3-2)

BoRam’s picks:
[image loading]
ro4: (T)sC (8-1 still alive)
ro16: (P)Virus (2-2)
Group: (P)HongUn (0-2), (T)Lyn (1-2), (P)MarineKing (1-2)

SoYeon’s picks:
[image loading]
ro16: (Z)July (3-2)
Group: (P)San (0-2), (Z)Zenio (0-3), (T)Byun (1-2)

Q-Ri’s picks:
[image loading]
Group: (Z)TheWinD (0-2), (Z)Kyrix (1-2), TricKsteR (1-2), (P)HuK (0-2)

HwaYoung’s picks:
[image loading]
ro16: (T)Genius (2-2)
Group: (P)RainBOw (0-3), (T)Jinro (1-2), (T)Rain (1-2)


JiYeon boosts the best fantasy team, featuring two round-of-4ers and scoring 204 fantasy points. Q-Ri, as expected, scored an abysmal 8 points with all her players exiting at the group stage. Of the "premium" group, SoYeon scored the lowest at 25 points, but the biggest surprise is Eunjing's team, scored an astronomical 176 points despite picking a "value" team.

Premium:
77 points - HyoMin's fantasy
25 points - SoYeon's fantasy
204points - JiYeon's fantasy
91 points - BoRam's fantasy
Value:
176points - EunJing's fantasy
8 points - Q-Ri's fantasy
25 points - HwaYoung's fantasy

Because the wide range of total fantasy salaries, straight points-comparison is an insufficient metric to evaluate the best fantasy team. An alternative measure, salary/points, can be useful to measure the comparative cost-efficiency of each team. Using this measure, EunJing has the most valuable team spending less than 3[image loading] per point, whereas Q-Ri again has the most worthless team, spending a ridiculous 53[image loading] per point.

Premium:
13[image loading]/pt - HyoMin's fantasy
34[image loading]/pt - SoYeon's fantasy
4[image loading]/pt - JiYeon's fantasy
9[image loading]/pt - BoRam's fantasy
Value:
3[image loading]/pt - EunJing's fantasy
53[image loading]/pt - Q-Ri's fantasy
14[image loading]/pt - HwaYoung's fantasy

Note that JiYeon, EunJing, and BoRam still have players alive in the tournament that can bring in a potential 45 extra points (63 possible for JiYeon).


Conclusion

Jiyeon is far and away the fantasy winner with two remaining players ((T)NaDa , (Z)NesTea) on both branches of the semifinals. On the remote chance that both of Jiyeon's players both falters in ro4, EunJung has a chance to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat if (P)InCa delivers her a flawless performance. Regardless of the final results, EunJing already clutched the value-cup at an astonishing 3[image loading] per point. At this valuation, she could easily take home the FantasyGSL crown and won herself a free GSL7 pass.

The worst T-ara girl? Q-Ri, but SoYeon gets a honorable mention.


and the best T-ara Girl is...
[image loading]
a tie between JiYeon and EunJung
Because nothing is sexier than a girl that knows her StarCraft.


Poll: Best T-ara girl

Eun Jung (41)
 
33%

JiYeon (39)
 
32%

HyoMin (16)
 
13%

SoYeon (10)
 
8%

QRi (7)
 
6%

Boram (5)
 
4%

HwaYoung (5)
 
4%

123 total votes

Your vote: Best T-ara girl

(Vote): JiYeon
(Vote): HyoMin
(Vote): Eun Jung
(Vote): Boram
(Vote): SoYeon
(Vote): QRi
(Vote): HwaYoung



Full disclosure: I have not a fucking clue about kpop, and yes, I know the T-ara girls didn't pick the players themselves.



****
Thank God and gunrun.
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 15:25:45
May 05 2011 15:18 GMT
#2
Jiyeon~

[image loading]
Priphea
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
May 05 2011 15:25 GMT
#3
Jiyeon has nada - game done.
But still, Eunjung > Jiyeon.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 05 2011 15:26 GMT
#4
errr...what an in depth analysis! and full of pictures that help show the statistics!
Jaedong :3
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
May 05 2011 15:32 GMT
#5
Who here thought the title meant something completely different..
We spend our youth attaining wealth, and our wealth attaining youth.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
May 05 2011 15:42 GMT
#6
gsl only goes to prove what we already knew - that jiyeon and eunjung are the two best t-ara girls
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Zeburial
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden1126 Posts
May 05 2011 15:43 GMT
#7
very missleading title. ^_^ But great post nonetheless! =D
Empires are not brought down by outside forces - they are destroyed by weaknesses from within
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
May 05 2011 15:50 GMT
#8
On May 06 2011 00:32 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Who here thought the title meant something completely different..


o/

But my mind still got blown. Seems like there's nothing people get more excited about than anything Korea-related =)
Always smile~
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
May 05 2011 15:54 GMT
#9
sorry, how did you pick their "Fantasy salaries"? Just curious
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 15:59:53
May 05 2011 15:59 GMT
#10
All points and salary systems are straight from FantasyGSL, and I just add them up. I have written a draft guide that evaluates how to exploit it in details.
Thank God and gunrun.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 16:13:21
May 05 2011 16:11 GMT
#11
On May 06 2011 00:54 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
sorry, how did you pick their "Fantasy salaries"? Just curious


http://fantasystarcraft.net/gsl_player_list

Edit: Got ninja'd by the OP. :D

Anyhow, those pictures alone are worth 5 stars.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 05 2011 16:47 GMT
#12
[image loading]

Jiyeon 10/10, Artosis said so aswell.

Nada has Jiyeon
Nestea has Jiyeon
Jiyeon was on a winning streak at the start(something like 5/5).

Jiyeon is the best.

[image loading]

WriterXiao8~~
BaronFel
Profile Joined July 2009
United States155 Posts
May 05 2011 16:47 GMT
#13
On May 06 2011 00:32 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Who here thought the title meant something completely different..


I got caught Still, unexpectedly interesting
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
May 05 2011 16:47 GMT
#14
EunJung fighting, inca must deliver
But agains Nada...
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Atom Cannister
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Germany380 Posts
May 05 2011 17:00 GMT
#15
Is it just me or does it seem like they have put in place a "hands must be in facial photo" rule???
...
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
May 05 2011 17:03 GMT
#16
They all look the same.... would smash them all.

What's this topic about?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 17:10:37
May 05 2011 17:04 GMT
#17
On May 06 2011 02:00 Atom Cannister wrote:
Is it just me or does it seem like they have put in place a "hands must be in facial photo" rule???


Part of their song concept promo shots. Do not question the hands though, they are in the good places.
WriterXiao8~~
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
May 05 2011 17:18 GMT
#18
EunJung is the hottest. That is all.


Oh, and thanks for stats.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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dapanman
Profile Joined September 2010
United States316 Posts
May 05 2011 17:20 GMT
#19
On May 06 2011 01:47 BaronFel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 00:32 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Who here thought the title meant something completely different..


I got caught Still, unexpectedly interesting


I have to applaud the double-entendre in the title. Good show.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
May 05 2011 17:27 GMT
#20
On May 06 2011 00:32 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Who here thought the title meant something completely different..


I did. Thats for sure. rofl

But after reading through all this... mind = blown. I don't even want to know how you came up with it ^^
LiquidDota Staff
scrochum
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland6 Posts
May 05 2011 19:30 GMT
#21
Just a slight quibble, and i know its not SC related in ond of itself, but yourself and artosis seem to have trouble with Qri's name.
If you can read hangul, her name is 큐리 (kyu li) stylised as Q-Ri (because of the lack of difference between L and R in east asian languages.)
That being said, it is a stage name and you are free to call her what ever you want in such an in depth analysis of their fantasy GSL picks, showing that going for high value players is not the best way to go.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
May 05 2011 19:36 GMT
#22
On May 06 2011 04:30 scrochum wrote:
Just a slight quibble, and i know its not SC related in ond of itself, but yourself and artosis seem to have trouble with Qri's name.
If you can read hangul, her name is 큐리 (kyu li) stylised as Q-Ri (because of the lack of difference between L and R in east asian languages.)
That being said, it is a stage name and you are free to call her what ever you want in such an in depth analysis of their fantasy GSL picks, showing that going for high value players is not the best way to go.


Apologies. Fixed.

I still can't forgive her for cursing HuK though.
Thank God and gunrun.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 07:50:14
May 15 2011 00:37 GMT
#23
Appendix

With the GSL6 semi-finals and final results in, EunJung and JiYeon remained the best T-ara girls with their final fantasy ranking unchanged.

  • (Z)NesTea and (T)NaDa won [image loading] JiYeon 40 extra fantasy points;
  • (P)InCa earnt [image loading] EunJung 17 extra fantasy points;
  • (T)sCfOu gained 9 more points for [image loading] BoRam.



Final Fantasy Standings
Premium:
77 points - HyoMin's fantasy - 13[image loading]/pt
25 points - SoYeon's fantasy - 34[image loading]/pt
244 points - JiYeon's fantasy - 3[image loading]/pt
100 points - BoRam's fantasy - 8[image loading]/pt
Value:
193 points - EunJing's fantasy - 2[image loading]/pt
8 points - Q-Ri's fantasy - 53[image loading]/pt
25 points - HwaYoung's fantasy - 14[image loading]/pt



T-ara Girls' Fantasy
JiYeon’s picks:
[image loading]
Champion: (Z)NesTea (14-5)
ro4: (T)NaDa (7-5)
ro8: (T)LosirA (4-4), (Z)Killer (4-5)
ro16: (T)SuperNoVa (2-2)
HyoMin’s picks:
[image loading]
ro8: (T)TOP (5-4)
ro16: (T)Clide (3-2)
Group: (Z)Check (0-2), (T)Ensnare (0-2), oGs_MC (1-2)
EunJung’s picks:
[image loading]
ro2: (P)InCa (10-5)
ro8: (P)anypro (5-5)
ro16: (T)Polt (3-3), (P)Alicia (3-2), (Z)FruitDealer (3-2)
BoRam’s picks:
[image loading]
ro4: (T)sC (10-4)
ro16: (P)Virus (2-2)
Group: (P)HongUn (0-2), (T)Lyn (1-2), (P)MarineKing (1-2)
SoYeon’s picks:
[image loading]
ro16: (Z)July (3-2)
Group: (P)San (0-2), (Z)Zenio (0-3), (T)Byun (1-2)
Q-Ri’s picks:
[image loading]
Group: (Z)TheWinD (0-2), (Z)Kyrix (1-2), TricKsteR (1-2), (P)HuK (0-2)
HwaYoung’s picks:
[image loading]
ro16: (T)Genius (2-2)
Group: (P)RainBOw (0-3), (T)Jinro (1-2), (T)Rain (1-2)
Thank God and gunrun.
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
May 15 2011 02:01 GMT
#24
This is further proof that Jiyeon is the best.
Priphea
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
May 15 2011 02:03 GMT
#25
I don't get how all of you can like Jiyeon and her eyes that are so close that they touch. Eunjung and Hyomin are too good. Jiyeon's just meh.
안지호
TommyGG
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States142 Posts
May 15 2011 03:50 GMT
#26
When will Jinro and Huk use their newfound Korean starpower to their advantage and try to take one of the girls that picked them on a date? I think they should do it for TL
ToDieFoR
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States52 Posts
May 15 2011 07:05 GMT
#27
I related this to Idra Sex thing...lol
:D
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