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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 10:35:58
April 29 2011 10:32 GMT
#1
Absolutely beautiful wedding, both expansive and extravagant without being pretentious or spoiled. The man who read the wedding vows - the Archbishop of Canterbury, I believe - has a movie-like voice. Kate looks gorgeous, the princes seem nervous but content, and the ring has been placed. Still waiting for the kiss to end it all. Hymns, prayers and preaching right now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13132410 to watch live, it's still going on.

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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
April 29 2011 10:35 GMT
#2
BBC link doesn't let the US watch, but you can watch it on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/theroyalchannel?feature=ticker
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
April 29 2011 10:37 GMT
#3
British people wear crazy hats ;o

But yeah I was watching a bit of it, I agree that the Archbishop who read the vows has an absolutely amazing voice, very bold.
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Flew
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom133 Posts
April 29 2011 10:38 GMT
#4

It's beautiful indeed! Kate's dress is perfect and she has such poise and elegance that I'm sure she'll do well in her role as future queen.

I really love the trees in the cathedral. A nice touch instead of the usual flower arrangements.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
April 29 2011 10:42 GMT
#5
Hella balding yo
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
April 29 2011 10:42 GMT
#6
I really don't know why so many people are watching. I don't get the amazement really. I find it amazing that the Americans are watching. But what do I know xD Plus I am 16 so I guess I really don't care about these sort of things.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
April 29 2011 10:44 GMT
#7
Lord's Prayer now.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
April 29 2011 10:46 GMT
#8
All the clergy have fantastic voices. Each of them should spend their days narrating audio books: I think they are all related to Stephen Fry in some way.
Mavkar
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany592 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 10:48:53
April 29 2011 10:48 GMT
#9
Such a beautiful thing. Will watch this all day, procrastinating from work. But a royal wedding is a good cause and it's just sooo beautiful and epic.
I'm shy and reserved, even on the internet.
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
April 29 2011 10:48 GMT
#10
I zapped my way through all my channels and five of them were broadcasting this stuff live.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
April 29 2011 10:51 GMT
#11
Ah old costums. All that makes me sad and frustrated because of the lack of egality in this world. Not because it would make any difference if you took away all the privileges and the money of the royal families (in Europe at least): but it feels just like a celebration of a thousand year old system of repression.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 10:54:00
April 29 2011 10:53 GMT
#12
On April 29 2011 19:51 Elroi wrote:
Ah old costums. All that makes me sad and frustrated because of the lack of egality in this world. Not because it would make any difference if you took away all the privileges and the money of the royal families (in Europe at least): but it feels just like a celebration of a thousand year old system of repression.


I'm not even a monarchist, but I enjoy the show. Don't have to be a Jaedong fan to appreciate and be spell-bound by his games.

Nowadays the monarchy has no real power and acts as a positive attractor for the Britain, bringing in revenue from tourism both to themselves and the general economy that far outweighs what allowances the British government gives them.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
April 29 2011 10:59 GMT
#13
On April 29 2011 19:53 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 19:51 Elroi wrote:
Ah old costums. All that makes me sad and frustrated because of the lack of egality in this world. Not because it would make any difference if you took away all the privileges and the money of the royal families (in Europe at least): but it feels just like a celebration of a thousand year old system of repression.


I'm not even a monarchist, but I enjoy the show. Don't have to be a Jaedong fan to appreciate and be spell-bound by his games.

Nowadays the monarchy has no real power and acts as a positive attractor for the Britain, bringing in revenue from tourism both to themselves and the general economy that far outweighs what allowances the British government gives them.

It's the symbol of wealth put up infront of the people - as in medieval times to show the might of the nation. I know that my perspective is illogical - or maybe too logical to be valid in a world that isn't at all logical, but this kind of spectacel makes me feel dirty. It has been like that as long as I can remember, I remember almost crying when my mother wanted to watch the swedish royal family when I was a kid.

But as I said, this is more of a feeling than an argument really, so I can understand people who are watching I guess.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
April 29 2011 11:01 GMT
#14
lol, they just showed some really tough looking guy in the crowd (with a banged up nose) crying a bit, I think.
Mavkar
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany592 Posts
April 29 2011 11:04 GMT
#15
If I would be standing there I would be soaking wet and sobbing like there's no tomorrow.
So overwhelming!
I'm shy and reserved, even on the internet.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 11:09:35
April 29 2011 11:09 GMT
#16
Prince Harry looks like a tank. Either he has very wide shoulders or he's wearing a very wide-shouldered uniform; either way, he has enough cord on that thing to secure a battleship to a dock.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
April 29 2011 11:11 GMT
#17
My god, there is someone wearing a Nelson-era Royal Navy captain's hat. Looks like he's going to go off and fight the Spanish and French off Trafalgar after the wedding.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
April 29 2011 11:14 GMT
#18
Now they are all getting in their carriages and are being pulled away. Must be a nightmare for security, knowing that if something does go on there is no "throw them in the car and drive" but rather "have them duck in the open-air carriage and whip the horses."
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
April 29 2011 11:17 GMT
#19
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Did I miss the kiss or something? I don't think it happened!
Mavkar
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany592 Posts
April 29 2011 11:18 GMT
#20
Kiss at 14:25!
I'm shy and reserved, even on the internet.
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
April 29 2011 11:19 GMT
#21
Am thinking Harry just did Hangover level partying yesterday...
And Britains next queen is hot yo!
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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
April 29 2011 11:23 GMT
#22
OMG this is amazing: scrub my brain, this is how I am remembering the wedding as going down:

FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
April 29 2011 11:33 GMT
#23
thank royal fuck itll be over by the time i get to work
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DocNemesis
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Philippines446 Posts
April 29 2011 11:57 GMT
#24
Amazing wedding. Enough said. :D
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 29 2011 12:01 GMT
#25
It was really nice, all the people in our country who are complaining on this forum piss me off, the royal wedding allows us all to share a bit of pomp and circumstance, unlike the weddings of every other rich person in the country.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 29 2011 12:08 GMT
#26
not hugely bothered about it either way. everything looked nice and 2 people got married, good for them
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
April 29 2011 12:26 GMT
#27
Lovely wedding. Bit over rated though.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Vinnesta
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore285 Posts
April 29 2011 12:27 GMT
#28
It is sooooo crowded at the wedding procession route! The royals leave for Westminster Abbey at about 10am, but despite reaching the venue at 8.30am, I could only catch a glimpse of the cars and coaches. The atmosphere is terrific, especially when the couple said their vows.

They should be kissing any minute now!!
Same difference is not an oxymoron!
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
April 29 2011 12:29 GMT
#29
man she's fine

QUEEN AIN'T WAVING THOUGH
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Vinnesta
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore285 Posts
April 29 2011 12:30 GMT
#30
AND THERE WE HAVE IT! A short kiss, but lots of cheers from the crowd =D
Same difference is not an oxymoron!
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
April 29 2011 12:33 GMT
#31
I wish I was there T_T
Ah the cakes, chocolate cakes ;_;

Best wishes to those two though!
End my suffering
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
April 29 2011 12:34 GMT
#32
well shit. the british can throw a wedding.
:O
Mavkar
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany592 Posts
April 29 2011 12:37 GMT
#33
One of the finest weddings we will see in our lifetime.
I'm shy and reserved, even on the internet.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
April 29 2011 12:51 GMT
#34
i cant believe anyone would actually waste their time watching this
who really cares?
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
April 29 2011 12:52 GMT
#35
I care.

Cauz I got 2 days off. lolz
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
April 29 2011 13:01 GMT
#36
On April 29 2011 21:52 Psychobabas wrote:
I care.

Cauz I got 2 days off. lolz


It makes sense for you guys to care.

in the US it's ROYAL WEDDING EVERYTHING AHHHHH. I think the US is just as, if not more excited about it. rofl.



SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
April 29 2011 13:02 GMT
#37
What an absolute waste of money.

I dont even consider myself part of the UK but I still have to pay tax to fund this crap? Unbelievable.
trevabob
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom350 Posts
April 29 2011 13:06 GMT
#38
On April 29 2011 22:02 pStar wrote:
What an absolute waste of money.

I dont even consider myself part of the UK but I still have to pay tax to fund this crap? Unbelievable.


Exactly. If I wanted to watch stupid inbred people with a grossly inflated and illegitimate sense of self worth spend far too much of other peoples' money to get married I'd watch "my big fat gypsy wedding"...

MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
April 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#39
On April 29 2011 19:48 Eatme wrote:
I zapped my way through all my channels and five of them were broadcasting this stuff live.

I swear to god, 70% of my satellite channel list (Bell) is somehow affiliated with the wedding lol. Can't avoid it.
OhDeezy
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom54 Posts
April 29 2011 13:16 GMT
#40
As a tax payer, you pay about 65p a year to keep the Royalty, and they generate a lot more than that from tourism. I'm not a Royalist either, but just enjoy the wedding for what it is, a great spectacle.
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
April 29 2011 13:29 GMT
#41
She is so attractive. My brothers friend from his intern and I were chattin' it up the whole time. She explained things to my ignorant self Was really fun.
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pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
April 29 2011 13:41 GMT
#42
And the Police coverage OhDeezy? and the opportunity cost of people taking the day off for this wedding?

MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
April 29 2011 13:43 GMT
#43
I was impressed by the public spirit and atavistic loyalty of the people as they appeared on the broadcasts. It permits one to indulge, however briefly, in the fantasy that here begins a fresh generation which will restore prestige and honour to our monarchy.
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
April 29 2011 13:59 GMT
#44
On April 29 2011 22:43 MoltkeWarding wrote:
I was impressed by the public spirit and atavistic loyalty of the people as they appeared on the broadcasts. It permits one to indulge, however briefly, in the fantasy that here begins a fresh generation which will restore prestige and honour to our monarchy.


Don't say "our monarchy", man. You're just a Asian banana trying to be a part of the cool crowd. <3
too easy
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
April 29 2011 14:17 GMT
#45
On April 29 2011 22:59 exalted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 22:43 MoltkeWarding wrote:
I was impressed by the public spirit and atavistic loyalty of the people as they appeared on the broadcasts. It permits one to indulge, however briefly, in the fantasy that here begins a fresh generation which will restore prestige and honour to our monarchy.


Don't say "our monarchy", man. You're just a Asian banana trying to be a part of the cool crowd. <3


There's no need for any of that envy. I've never prevented you from making something of yourself as well.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
April 29 2011 14:18 GMT
#46
On April 29 2011 22:43 MoltkeWarding wrote:
I was impressed by the public spirit and atavistic loyalty of the people as they appeared on the broadcasts. It permits one to indulge, however briefly, in the fantasy that here begins a fresh generation which will restore prestige and honour to our monarchy.

I cant tell if you're serious or sarcastic. This is what this kind of things does to people.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 14:26:36
April 29 2011 14:25 GMT
#47
On April 29 2011 22:02 pStar wrote:
What an absolute waste of money.

I dont even consider myself part of the UK but I still have to pay tax to fund this crap? Unbelievable.


On April 29 2011 22:16 OhDeezy wrote:
As a tax payer, you pay about 65p a year to keep the Royalty, and they generate a lot more than that from tourism. I'm not a Royalist either, but just enjoy the wedding for what it is, a great spectacle.


And as someone from a country with a president I can say I'd much rather have 1 guy/family be the face of the country rather than having to elect a new idiot every 4-5 years.
Elections are expensive. Managing all the presidential shit (houses, palaces, lifetime security detail for each of them, housing) isn't that much cheaper than for a royal family if that's what you have in mind. Plus every new president has new staff, with different ideas about how their offices should look like. In the end I doubt it's any cheaper, if anything it should probably be more expensive. And without the added benefit of a ton of tourists coming to see the royal stuff.
Plus if ever the monarchy is abolished in the UK do you actually think they won't keep what's essentially their property? Unless it's done by revolution but good luck getting modern humans' fat ass off the couch and away from the TV :D; too well fed, too easy a life.

Have fun knowing this event has brought happiness to some, lots of money to others in your country.
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
April 29 2011 14:34 GMT
#48
I was hoping the kiss would last longer but it was alright. Much better than Di's
I missed Harry's speech, was it good? :o
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 15:41:18
April 29 2011 15:21 GMT
#49
On April 29 2011 23:18 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 22:43 MoltkeWarding wrote:
I was impressed by the public spirit and atavistic loyalty of the people as they appeared on the broadcasts. It permits one to indulge, however briefly, in the fantasy that here begins a fresh generation which will restore prestige and honour to our monarchy.

I cant tell if you're serious or sarcastic. This is what this kind of things does to people.


I assure you that I am quite unmoved by the momentary fashion and furor of this wedding. The imp's shattered mirror has polluted my eye, and it takes some effort to muster what enthusiasm I have for a day's pageantry.

Nonetheless, your kind of statement appears to be an eager bedfellow of egalitarian ideology: make as many generalising assumptions as you can about as many people as you can. Peoples minds are automatons, deluded by basic stimulae and impulses. Will is the slave of enviornment, therefore anything remotely decorating a human personality- personal loyalties, sense of duty, feelings of obligation, love of traditions, is not an expression of individuality, but the contrary. The only true way of expressing individuality is revolt against all positive values, at which point the postmodernist finds nirvana.

There. Is my generalisation a just description of your Weltanschauung?

Be happy with your inheritance, and I shall be happy with mine. For my part, I could no more depart from the protections of liberties descended from the Bill of Rights of 1689, than I could from loyalty to the Monarchy enshrined in the same document.

Its champion, Lord Somers, knew better than to go Jacobin:

"So that our government not being arbitrary, but legal, not absolute but political, our princes can never become arbitrary, absolute, or tyrants, without forfeiting at the same time their royal character, by the breach of the essential conditions of their regal power, which are to act according to the ancient customs and standing laws of the nation."

Out of which customs egalitarianism is as foreign to our blood, as is despotism.
rkffhk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 15:46:28
April 29 2011 15:45 GMT
#50
My ancestors died so that I wouldn't have to give two shits about the Royal Wedding. I therefore find this thread very offensive! D:
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TechniQ.UK
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United Kingdom391 Posts
April 29 2011 16:35 GMT
#51
I thought the wedding was very good. A good time for our nation to celebrate in the midst of the economic difficulties that people have been experiencing(no doubt someone will see the irony in this but meh...). Kate looked absolutely stunning in that dress and her smile is quite something.

I'm glad the service was overtly Christian, it's good to see our nation live up to it's protestant heritage at a time where the government seems to be trying to get rid of it.

Note: First kiss happened on the balcony of the palace, not at the abbey service.
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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
April 29 2011 16:56 GMT
#52
WTF? People care? I mean....it's someone across the pond getting married. Big deal. It's not like British royalty has any power.
mahkan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States153 Posts
April 29 2011 17:26 GMT
#53
On April 30 2011 01:56 Sm3agol wrote:
WTF? People care? I mean....it's someone across the pond getting married. Big deal. It's not like British royalty has any power.

My thoughts exactly
des
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States507 Posts
April 29 2011 18:05 GMT
#54
will u guys televise my wedding too
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Varys
Profile Joined April 2011
1 Post
April 29 2011 18:06 GMT
#55
Boring movie. The plot is a joke, the costumes are weak and the actors aren't impressive either.
But the most ridiculous thing about is the premise itself: Image still having a monarchy in 21st century Europa and millions of people caring about a wedding just because the pair is royal.
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
April 29 2011 18:17 GMT
#56
On April 30 2011 01:56 Sm3agol wrote:
WTF? People care? I mean....it's someone across the pond getting married. Big deal. It's not like British royalty has any power.

Well, she is really hot though.
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4004 Posts
April 29 2011 18:28 GMT
#57
This is the sum total of my investment in the royal wedding.

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The whole think rankles my anti-monarchistic Irish sentiment. It feels a little... awkward to see so many Irish folks clamouring for it; I'm not judging or anything, it's just that long history of colonialism/loss/cultural damage is hard to shift, and the monarchy is a powerful metonym for it.
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MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
April 29 2011 19:04 GMT
#58
As far as Ireland is concerned, the English simply cannot do right by them. The monarchy is no good, and the Irish despise the Cromwellian Republic as well. I suppose if the Irish had their way, England would revert back to the noble times of Tristan and Isolde. After all, the noblest hero of English medieval romance was a Celt.
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 22:21:32
April 29 2011 19:17 GMT
#59
On April 30 2011 04:04 MoltkeWarding wrote:
As far as Ireland is concerned, the English simply cannot do right by them. The monarchy is no good, and the Irish despise the Cromwellian Republic as well. I suppose if the Irish had their way, England would revert back to the noble times of Tristan and Isolde. After all, the noblest hero of English medieval romance was a Celt.


For us, it's more a question of that core concept of postcolonial suffering. There's nothing to be done about a redemption for the English, it's about a cultural subjugation, the practical crushing of a language and heritage, that leaves the whole national spirit somewhat scarred (to take the point from Said/Jameson).

To say, "If the Irish had their way..." and then offer something to do with England at all is to misunderstand the issue a bit, I feel. For us, it's a question of our present identity being a fundamentally poscolonial one. It's to understand that Flan O'Brien feeling of "... and their likes will never be seen again."

It's more a question of a perpetual grieving for who we might have been that determines how the Irish feel for the English, than a question of what the English are or could be.
Moderator@SirJolt
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
April 29 2011 19:19 GMT
#60
On April 30 2011 01:56 Sm3agol wrote:
WTF? People care? I mean....it's someone across the pond getting married. Big deal. It's not like British royalty has any power.

Why are people watching sports or sc2 or anything, wtf care? come on rofl
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
April 29 2011 19:29 GMT
#61
On April 30 2011 04:04 MoltkeWarding wrote:
As far as Ireland is concerned, the English simply cannot do right by them. The monarchy is no good, and the Irish despise the Cromwellian Republic as well. I suppose if the Irish had their way, England would revert back to the noble times of Tristan and Isolde. After all, the noblest hero of English medieval romance was a Celt.


And yet I bet you feel bad for our Aboriginals. Don't make fun of the Irish ya douche.

OT: It was a nice wedding. I don't think people realize how important the British Monarchy is for our military here in Canada. We still remove our beret when we go past pictures of the queen in St. Jean ^^ but not for Peter McKay lol.
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Housemd
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United States1407 Posts
April 30 2011 16:40 GMT
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Even though I thought that this wedding was a waste of taxpayer money, I still think it was nice to have it, especially the tough times were having in Libya and the mid-east, not to mention the economy and the earthquake in Japan.

It's nice to have a bit of fun once in a while.
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Canada898 Posts
April 30 2011 17:46 GMT
#63
From my source in the newspaper here in Canada it was said to be partly paid for by the monarchy and by the parents of Kate. Could be wrong though. Although security was freely given by the Police which are a paid force by the taxpayer.

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