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shinosai
United States1577 Posts
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ISighZ
United States270 Posts
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shinosai
United States1577 Posts
On April 26 2011 09:18 ISighZ wrote: I read Tryums and not quite sure what he's saying but after reading your post, what's wrong with thinking that way. I believed any person(average person with average mind) can be a millionaire if they really want to. It's certainly possible. Let me know how that works out for you. | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
On April 26 2011 09:18 ISighZ wrote: I read Tryums and not quite sure what he's saying but after reading your post, what's wrong with thinking that way. I believed any person(average person with average mind) can be a millionaire if they really want to. It's certainly possible. By the virtue of being an average person with an average mind, becoming a millionaire is out of their scope barring extreme luck. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On April 26 2011 08:39 Chill wrote: In my experience, this is difficult but not impossible. Give it a shot but be realistic. As an engineering student, these were the only jobs I could get during the summer: 1. McDonalds 2. Office data entry 3. Night shift at a car manufacturer Some of my friends found summer engineering work, but it was rare. Landscaping, retail, and office work were commonplace (without parents' help). Im surprised how often office data entry positions are always mentioned, its probably the easiest out of all others. I have a few friends that work for small companies nearby our uni, you essentially just sit there for a few hours doing almost effortless work. | ||
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GG_NO_RE
Japan238 Posts
part times jobs i've had during university: library, army, landscaping, overnights at a grocery store, TA (i also worked 4-5 jobs throughout high school). chill's advice is pretty sound. tryummm is also talking like you want to quit college and start a business which clearly does not seem to have anything to do with your original post. | ||
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Kogut
United States147 Posts
I personally did my time @ The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf as a Shift Supervisor. While the position required 20+ hours per week (as a supervisor), we had plenty of people who just pulled in hours when they could. Coffee shops are great because they need people around 4:30AM until 11:00PM. Surely you can find 4 hours in that time slot that works for you. Most places around college campuses are just happy to find people to cover shifts, and they really don't care if you can't give them tons of hours. Food service isn't pretty, but you usually get tips, and the pay is actually pretty decent. Given, a barista makes less than half of what you can pull in a real job your first year out of college (even with a shitty degree like Philosophy), but it's enough to help you pay bills and have a little money to have fun with. Try googling the company you want to work for. There's a great deal of information on sites like glassdoor about the specific hiring practices, interview questions, and expectations of almost every company out there. At the very least, it will give you an idea of what to expect from a similar company. Craig's List is a great place to look for part-time employment. The bigger job sites are so easy to get lost in, but I actually found my coffee shop job off CL, and my real job came from a site called indeed.com. You said that you're weary of interviews. All the more reason to just apply to anything that you might be somewhat qualified for. The more interviews you can go to, the more practice you will have when it comes time to sit down in front of somebody (or a panel) to sell yourself as the idea candidate for your dream job. It's just like StarCraft, buddy. Practice and be confident in your abilities, and they will improve over time. | ||
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Seide
United States831 Posts
To be honest, most jobs you wil be interviewing for you will probably be overqualified for, especially part time. If you are not qualified enough, its not your problem, just do your best and see what happens. If you don't get it, oh well you weren't qualified anyway. You can never guess what an employer is looking for, you got the interview, so show what you can do, let them decide whether you are qualified. One failed interview means nothing, even 10 failed interviews mean nothing. Getting a job is a question of quantity. Failing interviews is like losing at SC, as long as you learn something from it, its all good. I mean before I got my job at Microsoft, I probably got told no by atleast 10 other companies. | ||
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ISighZ
United States270 Posts
On April 26 2011 09:24 TOloseGT wrote: By the virtue of being an average person with an average mind, becoming a millionaire is out of their scope barring extreme luck. The point is IF they really want to be a millionaire. By being average, you would have the capability of understanding the basic foundation of understanding the concept of almost everything if you put your mind to it. Average person can go back to school and reeducate themselves. Take stock for example, I consider myself average. A regular person going to college and have a part time job on the weekend. I decided that I want more than what I already have so I decide to learn about stock investing. I already earn a few thousand dollars then I decide to stop because I'm not aiming to be a millionaire, I just want to live normally. Investing in stock doesn't require rocket science. ANY average person can learn about stock and be able to earn cash from it that is IF they really put forth the time to learn it. Was I lucky? Maybe? Or was it because I put in couple month of time reading newspaper and online articles about stock and looking at stock whenever I wake up and before I go to sleep and learn to predict the stock. There are more than one way to earn millions, I believe if the average person really want to, they can do it. Then if they did it, then they wouldn't be consider average. Everyone starts from average and they can do it. | ||
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Alkior
543 Posts
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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
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Joementum
787 Posts
On April 26 2011 08:37 RedJustice wrote: Seriously your best jobs are going to be on campus. Why does everyone keep saying this? >_< It is hard as hell to get a job on campus. It's ridiculous. It's usually 10k+ students trying to compete for a whole 300-500 jobs. You can try, but the chances of actually getting the job are so low that it really isn't worth it in the end. @OP - You're not going to get a good job right off the bat. Your best bet is to apply to grocery stores since they usually hire people regularly and don't really require any experience. From there, just keep applying to better jobs every couple of weeks until you get a better job. If your sleep schedule is a problem, then fix it. Your first post just seems like a bunch of "I want a job, but I want it to adjust to MY schedule and not be time consuming." On April 26 2011 09:18 ISighZ wrote: I read Tryums and not quite sure what he's saying but after reading your post, what's wrong with thinking that way. I believed any person(average person with average mind) can be a millionaire if they really want to. It's certainly possible. Let me know how that works out for you. You don't become a millionaire because you believe or because you "really want to." You either get lucky as hell or you go to school for 10+ years and then live frugally until you accumulate enough assets to be considered a "millionaire." On April 26 2011 09:48 ISighZ wrote: The point is IF they really want to be a millionaire. By being average, you would have the capability of understanding the basic foundation of understanding the concept of almost everything if you put your mind to it. Average person can go back to school and reeducate themselves. Take stock for example, I consider myself average. A regular person going to college and have a part time job on the weekend. I decided that I want more than what I already have so I decide to learn about stock investing. I already earn a few thousand dollars then I decide to stop because I'm not aiming to be a millionaire, I just want to live normally. Investing in stock doesn't require rocket science. ANY average person can learn about stock and be able to earn cash from it that is IF they really put forth the time to learn it. Was I lucky? Maybe? Or was it because I put in couple month of time reading newspaper and online articles about stock and looking at stock whenever I wake up and before I go to sleep and learn to predict the stock. There are more than one way to earn millions, I believe if the average person really want to, they can do it. Then if they did it, then they wouldn't be consider average. Everyone starts from average and they can do it. Out of curiosity, when did you make this money in the stock market? | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
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ToasteR_
Canada551 Posts
Your going to have a hard time finding any decent job with zero work experience. The food industry isn't glamorous but its a job right. Just go put together a resume with your current education level and any extra curricular activities your done, since you have no work experience, and just go apply. To be honest OP you sound very irresponsible. If your looking for a job the least you could have done was right down the companies name that called you. Also you dont "blow off" interviews due to scheduling conflicts. You let your potential employer know that due to various reasons you are unable to attend and you try and work in a new time that works for the both of you. If nothing works you politely thank them for consideration and their time. You'll also have to deal with an interview for almost any job. Usually for entry level jobs they're just a simple conversation to make sure you aren't a complete fuck up of a human. They may ask you why you want to work at their establishment and so forth. Just stay calm, be positive and polite. They will probably go through your resume and ask you to explain certain things you've done in the past. Its just a simple conversation really. | ||
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On April 26 2011 08:51 Chill wrote: What in God's name are you talking about? Jesus Christ... Edit: Oh, you're that fucking moron with the pyramid scheme. ROFL okay. Life makes sense again. I laughed so hard as my reaction was essentially the same (minus the pyramid scheme info). | ||
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
As someone mentioned, Teaching Assistant is nice. If you got a good grade in physics or something talk to the professor/school about being a TA. TA jobs at my school make about 10/hr and have flexible hours (hold office hours 2hrs a week and grade some homeworks). My roomate TAs for two different classes and makes about 600 dollars per class. | ||
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EPO
Canada341 Posts
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tryummm
774 Posts
On April 26 2011 09:03 shinosai wrote: I started reading tryums post and thinking, "Great, another one of those people." Yea, you know who I'm talking about. They believe anybody can be a millionaire if they just pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. I don't know what you mean by 'pull them up by their bootstraps.' The information I was providing came from Andrew Carnegie who has never sold anything related to 'How to make money.' He at one time was the wealthiest man in the world. What's so hard to believe that if you actually think about making money, develop a burning desire to make money and you talk to people with an abundance of specialized knowledge in how to make money...that you will go on to make a lot of money? I see it as unfortunate you have never talked about money with someone who has really mastered the art of making money. But I guess its your decision. | ||
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tryummm
774 Posts
On April 26 2011 08:51 Chill wrote: What in God's name are you talking about? Jesus Christ... Edit: Oh, you're that fucking moron with the pyramid scheme. ROFL okay. Life makes sense again. I'm talking about paradigms (A multitude of habits fixated in the subconscious mind) that you have developed throughout your life to believe things about money that are completely untrue. Throughout all of human history, wealthy individuals have had multiple sources of income. In my years of study, I have yet to come across a single wealthy individual with merely one source of income. I highly doubt you have spent any time at all studying wealthy individuals like Andrew Carnegie. Your advocating of getting a safe, secure job and never really going after living the life that one wants to live to others is a selfish attitude. Selfishness is not living as you wish to live, selfishness is conforming others to live as you wish them to live. Moreover, please explain what you mean by "Oh, you're that fucking moron with the pyramid scheme." I don't appreciate being accused of things without explanation. | ||
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tryummm
774 Posts
On April 26 2011 09:24 TOloseGT wrote: By the virtue of being an average person with an average mind, becoming a millionaire is out of their scope barring extreme luck. The belief in luck is from people who lack confidence. Confidence is developed through increased awareness. Its evident you lack self confidence in the area of money, since you apparently are scared and/or doubtful when you serious consider the idea of making money. The two mental faculties that are strongest at work in a confident individual to a certain area are the imagination and the will, respectively. The imagination is a check of your self image (Or conditioning), or what kind of person you visualize yourself to be. The will is used when you push back ideas of fear or doubt as you overcome your subconscious conditioning. People are confident only because they have an inner knowing of something. You lack inner certainty of yourself being able to make money, so the only logical explanation you can come up with of why people have a lot of money is because they are lucky. However, through studying financially independent individuals you will quickly find that this isn't true. | ||
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