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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
April 07 2011 17:31 GMT
#1
Spoils the groups, so don't read on if you don't know and want to look them up first

+ Show Spoiler +
Hydra is possibly my new favourite player. Here are a selection of reasons why:

+ Show Spoiler [MSL group selection RAGE] +
On April 07 2011 21:49 JSH wrote:

My respect for Hydra is now zero
And I dislike both MSL finalists more than ever now....


On April 07 2011 22:01 ffreakk wrote:
I finally ralise why i REALLY REALLY REALLY hate Hydra..

Ima bet he ll earn a ton of antis after this >.<.. This is so retarded...


On April 07 2011 22:02 Garrl wrote:
"kiante: this is fucking retarded as shit
» hydra is a dick, great is a dick
» they need an ego check
» they've just ruined the MSL"

SO. MAD.


On April 07 2011 22:32 Doraemon wrote:
what a terrible group d, didn't like hydra before, now it's definite


On April 07 2011 22:36 hauton wrote:
Hydra literally buried MBC's hopes of good ratings this MSL by putting 3 of TBLS in one group, where at least 1 will be eliminated.

Good going, douchebag.


On April 07 2011 23:46 TwoToneTerran wrote:
As reasonable a choice as it was for him to put 4 of his biggest competitors for a title in the same group, I'm still absolutely disgusted about how much worse the Ro16 will be because of this and I've now got a distaste for Hydra. Tournaments gonna be tangibly worse thanks to him, no matter how "sensible," it was.


On April 07 2011 23:48 Lucumo wrote:
Omg, Hydra...what a dick D:


On April 08 2011 00:09 Sawamura wrote:
I may be a kt fan and support flash but I like to see a strong msl finish with the big names TBLS but now my dreams have been shattered thanks to sour puss HYDRA and GREAT. As a flash fan I always wanted flash to win but not like this when Bisu and Jaedong are in the same group this not only makes the chances of Flash,Jaedong , Bisu getting eliminated we will probably see a repeat of last year msl finals ? Maybe a ZVZ again thanks to him . To be honest I like bisu T_T i wanted to see him in the ro8 versus flash rather than an early group stage . Good luck bisu and jaedong plus here is hoping flash will deliver the goods . HYDRA ANTI FAN FROM NOW ON !!!! GRRRRRRRR


On April 08 2011 01:26 Carefree wrote:
Hydra will be responsible for the downfall of Broodwar. Maybe he can walk onto the streets and get run over by a truck.

User was warned for this post


On April 08 2011 01:42 zenMaster wrote:
Just because you ZvZ lucked your individual title doesn't mean you can fuck with BW. I'm now an anti-fan of Hydra. I hope he gets mauled by a bear or something.




And that's just a selection of some of the more personal stuff, ignoring that which just calls him an idiot tactically etc. For this level of hate to come forthwith from fanboys of all persuasions requires the spark of an absolute genius, and we haven't even played any matches yet. Group D will produce such epic matches, and the meltdown of at least one of the larger group of TL fanbases. If Sea goes through, which I really hope he does, TL might actually crash through qqing. This is actually better because every game is going to be so ridiculously intense. Besides, how often does a Flash/Jaedong final actually deliver? The last few have seen cheesefests, 3-0 roflstomps and decent before power outages into don't give a fuck 8rax oh shit it didn't work gg, only Bigfile was actually decent. As for a Bisu final, I can't actually remember the last one, so long ago it was. The concentration of such quality in such a small space of time is unlikely to be seen again, so let's enjoy what we get.

As for what'll happen:

+ Show Spoiler [Expert Predictions] +
A: Light/Tyson winners match, think that Hydra is fucked, especially if Light's TvP starts to fail again

B: great and Leta through without thinking too much about it.

C: I'd really like to say Horang2 but no Protoss possibility makes it tough, Zero and Ruby?

D: Don't care as long as Sea qualifies, although he probably won't. Seriously too tough to call

E: Stork ezpz, probably free as well

F: Fantasy should get through, then it's just ZvZ so who knows, they're all competent enough at it. Probably Roro on recent form/avoiding Fanta in first game?

G: LOL. Snow and, idk, hero? At least he only has to practice one matchup and isn't that bad vP

H: Pretty close, Kal should get there, then it's a toss up between the rest. I'd like to say Really, but Shine could Shine, Reality not been doing too bad recently either


***
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
April 07 2011 17:47 GMT
#2
Will teamliquid have a poll for group of death? xD

Groups are pretty ridiculous
Jaedong :3
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
April 07 2011 17:55 GMT
#3
I missed it. =(

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So Hydra just picked 'smart' groups instead of entertaining ones, it seems?
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Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 18:07:57
April 07 2011 18:07 GMT
#4
On April 08 2011 02:55 Mikilatov wrote:
I missed it. =(

+ Show Spoiler +
So Hydra just picked 'smart' groups instead of entertaining ones, it seems?


+ Show Spoiler +
He put Jaedong, Flash, Bisu and Sea in 1 group lol
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 07 2011 18:09 GMT
#5
+ Show Spoiler +
It's depressing because we lose TLBS or most of them in the group stages.


I among most other would much rather see them beat the shit out of eachother in a BoX series.
You sound pretty TLBS to me for some reason... Your reasoning behind
+ Show Spoiler +
wanting Bisu/Jaedong/Flash knocking each other out in the group stages is cause they haven't had recent finals? ...
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 18:10:59
April 07 2011 18:10 GMT
#6
EDIT: forgot spoilers

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Hydra probably had his troll face on when he made the moves, using his last move to swap Bisu and Sea... within the same group.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 07 2011 18:13 GMT
#7
On April 08 2011 03:07 Gatsbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 02:55 Mikilatov wrote:
I missed it. =(

+ Show Spoiler +
So Hydra just picked 'smart' groups instead of entertaining ones, it seems?


+ Show Spoiler +
He put Jaedong, Flash, Bisu and Sea in 1 group lol

No
+ Show Spoiler +
Great put Bisu and Sea into Jaedong's group. Hydra put Flash into that group.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
April 07 2011 18:27 GMT
#8
On April 08 2011 03:13 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 03:07 Gatsbi wrote:
On April 08 2011 02:55 Mikilatov wrote:
I missed it. =(

+ Show Spoiler +
So Hydra just picked 'smart' groups instead of entertaining ones, it seems?


+ Show Spoiler +
He put Jaedong, Flash, Bisu and Sea in 1 group lol

No
+ Show Spoiler +
Great put Bisu and Sea into Jaedong's group. Hydra put Flash into that group.


+ Show Spoiler +
2/3rds of Group D was actually made by Great. What do I mean by that? Hydra and great were in cahoots with one another in creating this group. Therefore, Please don't pour hate into Hydra alone please. I personally like hydra and great more now for creating such drama and controversy. Stirring passion like this is always good, even if the one who stirred it gets caught in the firestorm.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
April 07 2011 18:30 GMT
#9
I am absolutely disgusted by the comments in that spoiler.

Why can't people enjoy some good ol SC? I for one am fucking excited for Group D. -_-
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
April 07 2011 18:34 GMT
#10
Woo I was quoted
Couple hours of sleep and an exam later, I cooled down a bit

But I still dislike them both

On April 08 2011 03:09 mizU wrote:
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It's depressing because we lose TLBS or most of them in the group stages.


I among most other would much rather see them beat the shit out of eachother in a BoX series.
You sound pretty TLBS to me for some reason... Your reasoning behind
+ Show Spoiler +
wanting Bisu/Jaedong/Flash knocking each other out in the group stages is cause they haven't had recent finals? ...

This pretty much summed it up

I'm not saying the group will not produce entertaining games, it's just better to see MORE entertaining games
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
April 07 2011 18:34 GMT
#11
lolololololololololololololololloololol this is epic, people are so stupid of course he would want those guys to kill each other. Makes it easier for him to get another title =D lol.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Trowabarton756
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 07 2011 18:42 GMT
#12
On April 08 2011 03:34 Trowabarton756 wrote:
lolololololololololololololololloololol this is epic, people are so stupid of course he would want those guys to kill each other. Makes it easier for him to get another title =D lol.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hydra had 3 chances to make changes and he should have spent at least 1, if not 2, making his own path to the Ro8 easier. Should have moved Light out and maybe make a change to group E. Can't touch Stork but FBH, Mind and Free all have very good vZ. That would have been a smarter thing to do.
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3128 Posts
April 07 2011 19:44 GMT
#13
On April 08 2011 03:07 Gatsbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 02:55 Mikilatov wrote:
I missed it. =(

+ Show Spoiler +
So Hydra just picked 'smart' groups instead of entertaining ones, it seems?


+ Show Spoiler +
He put Jaedong, Flash, Bisu and Sea in 1 group lol



Holy freakin crap.........
Were gonna have more veiwers that night than on the finals....
has there ever been a group that stacked?
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 07 2011 19:54 GMT
#14
Hahahaa I thought it was hilarious what Hydra did. I only wish that he put Stork in for Sea, mainly because I wanted to see TBLS in an elimination group, and that I don't want Sea to lose
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 20:11:30
April 07 2011 20:10 GMT
#15
TBH,

+ Show Spoiler +
flash and bisu

have only themselves to blame for not making it out of their respective rounds last season

And
+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK YES GREAT


But yea, the fanboy rage will be delicious -- wonder if it will approach GSL LRs in terms of ban counts.
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
April 07 2011 20:22 GMT
#16
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oh man seriously, WHAT AN ANNOYING thing to do to all the TBLS fans.
But enough crying and throwing shit and flame-balls, it's done, we can't change it now, let's just all get hyped about the potential for some awesome games, the rare fact that Flash even has to go through this formality with a scratch, and all remember that overall, THIS INCREASES FANTASY'S CHANCES OF WINNING so honestly I'm kinda for it (trollface)
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
OnFiRe888
Profile Joined October 2010
United States629 Posts
April 07 2011 20:38 GMT
#17
jaedong, bisu, flash, sea in the same group, enough said
"Life isn't measured by the breaths you take, but by skill in Starcraft"
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
April 07 2011 20:42 GMT
#18
Hydra has such balls of steel...

People ignore that he used ZERO of his three moves on his own group... he hand gifted his teammates Leta and Snow easy groups and then used his last switch to switch Sea and Bisu rather than give himself an easy group.

Mad respect
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 07 2011 21:16 GMT
#19
I am just glad + Show Spoiler +
Leta got a good group. Hydra's shenanigans I am not a fan of but they aren't the biggest deal
brood war for life, brood war forever
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
April 07 2011 21:25 GMT
#20
Why are we spoiling everything? It's kind of stupid to click this thread in the first place if you don't want the groups spoiled...

Anyway, wow am I going to be in the fanboy minority on Group D's night.
Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
April 07 2011 21:53 GMT
#21
hydra is a massive troll lol. I'm rooting for Sea. GOGO!!
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
April 07 2011 22:07 GMT
#22
If Flash and Bisu were unmovable seeds, this would have been avoided. Poor JD, though.
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
April 07 2011 22:09 GMT
#23
People ignore that he used ZERO of his three moves on his own group..


If you make your group easier - it is kinda lame, but can be taken as smart/tactical move.
When you make someone's group harder for no real reasons - it is just stupid/malicious.
Nobody benefits from this. It is bad for MSL, it is bad for fans, so it is bad for SCBW.
The only ppl who like it - TBLS haters.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
April 07 2011 22:39 GMT
#24
+ Show Spoiler +
my boys zero/soulkey are gonna have an easier time winning?

awesome job great/hydra

I'm a bit worried Jaedong might not make the Ro16 though
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 07 2011 22:46 GMT
#25
+ Show Spoiler +
If you can't beat them, win by other means. This way Hydra takes our atleast a single person who can be his top competitor, its smart, it may be incredibly annoying and I wholeheartly dislike it but still, can't say he is not smart. That being said Jaedong will have a hard time T_T.
WriterXiao8~~
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 23:06:48
April 07 2011 23:03 GMT
#26
If great and hydra gets eliminated in round RO32 ..

What joy would it bring! I'm not really a flash or sea fan nor a bisu fan, but I'm technically a dong fan but more importantly, I don't give a shit whos playing as long as there are awesome games to be played. With great and hydra making this dick move, there will be less awesome games to be played. And no, this if you say that this is about winning, then they should just face these pillars head on if they are to make another "cool progamer club' because if they don't beat these guys, they will still be living under their shadow.

But I'm not really worried, Flash, JD or Bisu will rip the shit out of this MSL. And to think great and hydra are zergs, Bisu will have a field day with them. Hydra beating JD, to me was just a fluke, that was the time he was in a slump. These guys won't be messed with. And poor Sea, but then again he's pretty capable of dealing with Bisu or JD, not sure about Flash though.
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 23:24:17
April 07 2011 23:21 GMT
#27
With great and hydra making this dick move, there will be less awesome games to be played.

Of the last few exciting BoX's in recent memory, I can't think of any that involved purely intra-TBLS matchups.

(Fantasy/Flash, Light/JD, Snow/JD, Fantasy/Calm*, Light/Effort, Modesty/Kal)
*lol

All the FvJs since NATE were rather meh, JvS was "lolcannons", Bisu v Stork was also rather uneventful. It seems that their games in Proleague are in general much higher quality (key word: Bo1).

With that in mind, I can't see 5 guaranteed Bo1s between S-class players as a bad thing.
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Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1249 Posts
April 08 2011 00:04 GMT
#28
what is tbls?
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 08 2011 00:08 GMT
#29
Taek (Bisu)
Bang (Stork)
LeeSsang (Jaedong + Flash)
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
April 08 2011 01:16 GMT
#30
I don't know why people are so mad. We are guaranteed games between jaedong/flash/bisu. Usually one or two of them get eliminated before the bo5 round even starts. And when they do meet in BoX's, the result is usually a bunch of BO wins, cheeses, and one-sided crushings. .
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