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disciple
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Roe
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Is that "Ghost in the Shell" a reference to the "Ghost in the Machine" quote by Gilbert Ryle? | ||
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RoyaleBrainSlug
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DivinO
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Or it isn't and I don't get it. ._. | ||
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Thrill
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Nazza
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DarkGeneral
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This is a "i c wut u did der" article. | ||
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Alur
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Archas
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disciple
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Kiante
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 looks great disciple | ||
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jimmyjingle
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Mastermind
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On April 07 2011 08:27 jimmyjingle wrote: please explain D: Using google i just discovered they are talking about some Japanese Manga series. | ||
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disciple
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On April 07 2011 08:25 Kiante wrote: i cried when the tachikoma's killed themselves to save batou at the end of SAC 1 looks great disciple yea, I felt pretty down too. Googling the lyrics of their suicide song finished off my day. If you are curious here they are : + Show Spoiler + Everyone, everyone is alive & are friends We all are alive We sing because we're alive We all are alive We are sad because we're alive When we try to pass the sun through out palms, my blood flows deep red The earthworm, the cricket, the water snake everything, everything is alive & are friends We all are alive We laugh because we're alive We all are alive We are happy because we're alive The dragonfly, the frog, the dragonfly everything, everything is alive & are friends Everyone, everyone is alive & are friends | ||
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JSH
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You don't say you have 0 bananas you say you have no bananas But now in modern times, its absolutely necessary for zero to be included for the new ideas and theories Read Zero by Charles Seife Great book and goes a lot more in depth | ||
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Roe
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On April 07 2011 08:23 disciple wrote: Tachikoma's quote is too short to extract the whole idea behind the analogy, the second part, which is not included in my OP is rather confusing and doesn't relate much to the part I quoted. However, I think the whole statement is very interesting to think about and I'm curious where it all originates from (since ghost in the shell is just a mash-up of different philosophy schools and Buddhism). Well the way I learned it, the idea comes from Descartes(as far back as I know), and it's Gilbert Ryles' argument against Cartesian Dualism(that there is a seperate mind and body), saying that descartes attributes more than is possible to a merely physical being as well as other arguments against it. hence, ghost in the machine. (also Descartes was infamous for his answer to 'where' the mind connected to the body. supposedly he made up some organ and swiftly left the argument). now that I think of it, the mind body separation does of course go wayyyy back to ancient spiritualism, but the language of your quote would hint at Ryle. I might be overanalyzing this though Lol  | ||
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disciple
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thanks a lot for the reply | ||
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skindzer
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On April 07 2011 08:25 Kiante wrote: i cried when the tachikoma's killed themselves to save batou at the end of SAC 1 looks great disciple You should spoiler that. | ||
tofucake
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On April 07 2011 08:53 Roe wrote: They touched on that in SAC when the Tachikomas' AI were moved into the satellite. That was one of my favorite episodes \o/ Well the way I learned it, the idea comes from Descartes(as far back as I know), and it's Gilbert Ryles' argument against Cartesian Dualism(that there is a seperate mind and body), saying that descartes attributes more than is possible to a merely physical being as well as other arguments against it. hence, ghost in the machine. (also Descartes was infamous for his answer to 'where' the mind connected to the body. supposedly he made up some organ and swiftly left the argument). now that I think of it, the mind body separation does of course go wayyyy back to ancient spiritualism, but the language of your quote would hint at Ryle. I might be overanalyzing this though Lol | ||
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aimaimaim
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