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ziggy408
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States72 Posts
April 03 2011 05:01 GMT
#1
My last like 15 ladder games... just terrible
I've won one TvT out of ~8, 1 TvP of 3, and 3 TvZ out of 4. WHY AM I SO BAD AT TVT ((((((((((
i used to be good at it, I don't understand why I'm so bad now..
No matter what I do, SOMEHOW their army wins. I don't know if its my positioning or what
I used to play master's players but my shitty TvT has brought me down to playing low diamonds. I don't know why I go on such a tilt. My last 11 games of season 1 i went 2-9, for no reason.
I think its because i got like 10 TvZ in a row on ladder, and I have no practice partner for TvT or TvP :/
Oh well, just gotta practice a lot more before I go back to ladder. Lost 100 points today, and I'm back to 0.

** one game, I nuked this guys mineral line, killed 30 scvs. 30!!! and yet he still managed to comeback and win off of 2 base (less income) while i was on 2 base with more production facilities and income.
ARRRRGGHHHHHH mirror matchups make me angry.**

that is all for now.
ty


arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 03 2011 05:23 GMT
#2
Ive lost like 8 of my last 10 ZvT's to 1 base all ins.

the other 2 i lost to hellions or osmething stupid

Ladder rage is quite common
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fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
April 03 2011 05:32 GMT
#3
TvT is such a stressful matchup.
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TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
April 03 2011 05:35 GMT
#4
All the mirror matchups are screwed up, especially protoss and terran.
As well as practising, you may find watching streams (such as Trump) or replays of professionals helpful. Maybe watching your own replays can help you spot mistakes which cost you the game.
At least you are good at TvZ according to the score above. My worst matchup is vs Terran.
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ziggy408
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States72 Posts
April 03 2011 06:15 GMT
#5
I watch a bunch of streams such as Trump, TLO, [the featured terran streams] and try to do what they do. I feel that im failing for a couple reasons: my friends from school who play aren't very high quality, and those that are play zerg, so i have good games with them. I lack a good tvp and tvt practice partner(s). Additionally, i mess around too much with the lower caliber players, so I take ladder to relaxed and just lose because im not making a good enough effort
ntrz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
April 03 2011 08:30 GMT
#6
tvt atm consists of largely 1base play. unless you're fortunate enough to land it on blackwater or taldarim. then you miiiight get an expo up. other than that, expect a 2rax fact all in, or a 5 rax scv all in almost every game.

Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 11:50:16
April 03 2011 11:47 GMT
#7
On April 03 2011 14:32 fearus wrote:
TvT is such a stressful matchup.



Yea, if i'm feeling stressed or not in the mood i'll just leave when i get matched against a Terran. Seriously, you have to worry about so many things that he can do, and one little tiny error that you make will cost you your whole army.

I dont know how other races feel like playing against T, but i hope it's not a bad. If it is then i really feel sorry for you


On April 03 2011 17:30 ntrz wrote:
tvt atm consists of largely 1base play. unless you're fortunate enough to land it on blackwater or taldarim. then you miiiight get an expo up. other than that, expect a 2rax fact all in, or a 5 rax scv all in almost every game.




Strange, i dont get that at all. Every game is hellion, banshee or FE opening into a 30min game with tanks/viking/bio. I feel like 80% of this matchup is just positioning. I've won being on 2 base vs 5, and i've lost with 5 to 2 aswell.

I do wish that people would 5 rax scv all in more though, shorter games and easier wins
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
ntrz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
April 03 2011 16:50 GMT
#8
On April 03 2011 20:47 Deadlyfish wrote:
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On April 03 2011 17:30 ntrz wrote:
tvt atm consists of largely 1base play. unless you're fortunate enough to land it on blackwater or taldarim. then you miiiight get an expo up. other than that, expect a 2rax fact all in, or a 5 rax scv all in almost every game.




Strange, i dont get that at all. Every game is hellion, banshee or FE opening into a 30min game with tanks/viking/bio. I feel like 80% of this matchup is just positioning. I've won being on 2 base vs 5, and i've lost with 5 to 2 aswell.

I do wish that people would 5 rax scv all in more though, shorter games and easier wins


yeah, hellion->banshee is extremely common too (i do that quite a bit) but when it gets scouted i get 2rax 1fact all in'd before the drop is ready =[
Pohaenix
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
April 03 2011 22:46 GMT
#9
I played terran for a little while and iEchoic's TvT build made TvT a piece of cake. I think its an excellent build and its very well thought out.http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=189624
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