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I wanted to take a chance to express my disdain for justin.tv streamers. Firstly, I'd like to say that I do appreciate justin.tv for providing a quality streaming service with many amazing features; providing different stream qualities through the server, great mobile support, excellent chat rooms, and a relatively bug-free experience.
However, the introduction of wide spread ad support for jtv "Producers" is completely ruining the viewing experience for me. I'd like to think its good that they are getting some coin in return for providing me with some entertainment, but its getting way out of hand. Many streamers take the initiative to /commercial at any and every opportunity and a person can only take watching the same windows mobile phone commerical so many times.
Really, its not a problem with the ads themselves, but how invasive they are. I'm not sure why they can't be more banner-like as you see on regular websites. Hell, I don't think I would care if they ran a nonstop video banner stream below the main stream, just as long as it doesn't uncontrollably blow up in my face.
And of course, I also wonder about the revenue sharing, especially if the players are getting any money from the streamers, for providing the content in the first place.
Does the frequency of ads on these streams bother anyone else?
Thanks for reading.
 
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Doesn't bother me. Most of the people I watch only post an ad once after every ladder game and that seems fair to me. Slightly less frequent than regular TV ads, even. If i'm annoyed by it i just alt tab or something.
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I agree with OP. I am completely supportive of ads themselves, as a source of revenue, no problem at all. But when they completely jolt my user experience I find myself just closing the window more often than not. I don't think they realise just how negative the impact is.
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On March 11 2011 12:21 a176 wrote:
I wanted to take a chance to express my disdain for justin.tv streamers. Firstly, I'd like to say that I do appreciate justin.tv for providing a quality streaming service with many amazing features; providing different stream qualities through the server, great mobile support, excellent chat rooms, and a relatively bug-free experience.
However, the introduction of wide spread ad support for jtv "Producers" is completely ruining the viewing experience for me. I'd like to think its good that they are getting some coin in return for providing me with some entertainment, but its getting way out of hand. Many streamers take the initiative to /commercial at any and every opportunity and a person can only take watching the same windows mobile phone commerical so many times.
Really, its not a problem with the ads themselves, but how invasive they are. I'm not sure why they can't be more banner-like as you see on regular websites. Hell, I don't think I would care if they ran a nonstop video banner stream below the main stream, just as long as it doesn't uncontrollably blow up in my face.
And of course, I also wonder about the revenue sharing, especially if the players are getting any money from the streamers, for providing the content in the first place.
Does the frequency of ads on these streams bother anyone else?
Thanks for reading.
I can enlighten you on this. Ad revenue is one of the main methods of making money for streams, and is a somewhat reliable thing. However the obnoxious full screen ones pay the most. The banner style ads pay much less then full video ads. So like for example on our channel we totally removed the banner ads, and just use full screen ones only because the little amount gained from banner ads was not worth the distraction.
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I actually prefer that the streamers get to say when and when they can't /commercial. Some streamers have good sense when it comes to this - they'll put the ads up in between games when there's nothing interesting going on, etc. but some others are a bit more annoying with it.
Easiest thing to do - don't support the players who are excessive about showing ads.
It'd also be nice to see some more variance in ads - especially to things that I'd actually think about buying as opposed to random bing ad #175, but I guess that's moreso what sponsors justin.tv attracts instead.
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I have a question about the jtv ads: if I have adblock on (so the ads don't show) but have the stream on (so I'm counted as a viewer) do I count for the purpose of ad payout? I assume payout is calculated based off the amount of viewers but I'm unsure if people with adblock are discounted as they should be.
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On March 11 2011 12:21 a176 wrote:
I wanted to take a chance to express my disdain for justin.tv streamers. Firstly, I'd like to say that I do appreciate justin.tv for providing a quality streaming service with many amazing features; providing different stream qualities through the server, great mobile support, excellent chat rooms, and a relatively bug-free experience.
However, the introduction of wide spread ad support for jtv "Producers" is completely ruining the viewing experience for me. I'd like to think its good that they are getting some coin in return for providing me with some entertainment, but its getting way out of hand. Many streamers take the initiative to /commercial at any and every opportunity and a person can only take watching the same windows mobile phone commerical so many times.
Really, its not a problem with the ads themselves, but how invasive they are. I'm not sure why they can't be more banner-like as you see on regular websites. Hell, I don't think I would care if they ran a nonstop video banner stream below the main stream, just as long as it doesn't uncontrollably blow up in my face.
And of course, I also wonder about the revenue sharing, especially if the players are getting any money from the streamers, for providing the content in the first place.
Does the frequency of ads on these streams bother anyone else?
Thanks for reading.
No, the ad's don't bother me. I like it when the streamer gets to choose when to /commercial. They always do it during their downtime, my chat window is still open so I can still talk/mod the channels. So its perfectly fine. I much like this system rather than LiveStream's stupid watch an ad now or in 15 minutes. Or anything with random ads showing up at a certain time which is lousy and a pain in the ass especially if it pops up during something big and momentous.
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if they're annoying with their /commercial i'll often just enable ABP. generally when they aren't stupid with their commercials i'll disable it to support them.
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On March 11 2011 12:34 wooozy wrote:
if they're annoying with their /commercial i'll often just enable ABP. generally when they aren't stupid with their commercials i'll disable it to support them.
For my viewing experience and the streamers I watch, no one has come remotely close to being annoying w/ their /commercial. I think any of the good streamers and anyone high profile won't be stupid. They know how far they can /commercial without it being annoying.
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how come i don't see the ads ever? does this only happen with US viewers
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I just open the stream and mute/minimize the browser its playing on, then use my main browser with ABP to watch it without the annoyance. Not really a solution for those with crappy connection but if you can do it why not. 
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If you watch on TL, you don't get ads. It's handy if you don't want to, but I usually watch on justin.tv because I want them to get money.
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I dunno, they usually "/commercial" after each game, if you mute the stream when they win/lose a game the following ad will be muted as well. then all you have to do is open a tab and wait a few seconds. But to be honest, commercials are 30sec at the most; you really can't miss much during that 30sec--at least it's not like TV where ads last like five minutes.
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Ads = money. The more invasive they are the more money is generated.
If you don't like the ads, vote with your feet and don't support the streamers who show the invasive ones.
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On March 11 2011 12:52 Munk-E wrote:
If you watch on TL, you don't get ads. It's handy if you don't want to, but I usually watch on justin.tv because I want them to get money.
This explains a lot. I thought that it had something to do with my region, but this makes a lot more sense. Yay TL!
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I have never saw a streamer that that showed too many ads. Most streams I watch just show an ad after each game, doesn't bother me at all and it is nice knowing that they get some money for what they do.
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I usually hang out with Cella's stream and people there always asks for commercials ( show how we love cella so much), its fine with me, but for some reason, i can't get the commercials that i wanted . 
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As with any streamign service, you can use adblock to remove the ads. Sure, it takes away support, but a viewer with no ads is better then no viewer at all in my book.
But think of it as if you were the one streaming. From the perspective, it makes sense.
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my streaming life improved so much since i got adblock. honestly those derek fisher first five california adds were making me rage so hard. during assembly i had three streams open and they would just come on randomly and were sooo loud. NEVER AGAIN.
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Adblock works fine on firefox but doesn't work for some reason on chrome, and chrome is my browser of choice at the moment so I have to suffer through the ads T_T
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