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This is just a rant blog because I was just accused of maphacking in sc2. I was accused of hacking a while ago in sc1 from a clan member which he later publicly apologized after he found out he was wrong.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=10073
We were having a clan war CnB vs Team JA. This was a 5v5 winner stay system clan war. I was the starter for my team and beat my first opponent who went korean 4 gate(zealot only) PVP.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10758013/Xel'Naga Caverns (119).SC2Replay
Then I had to play a zerg Metygl http://sc2ranks.com/us/1831872/Metygl from their team on the same Xel'Naga map and I did my usual 4 gate way rush and won.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10758013/Xel'Naga Caverns (120).SC2Replay
Third game was a PvT against BioOrMech http://sc2ranks.com/us/1880874/BioOrMech on Shakuras Plateau. I have this map thumbed down since it came out because I like small maps. I started out this game as how I start most of my PvT.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10758013/Shakuras Plateau (5).SC2Replay
I learned a new b/o that I saw no one execute from a korean player named ChitaPrime. It's a 2 gate push to fast expand which could devastate a player without a bunker or teching. Even if your opponent has bunkers ready, you are still ahead from fast expansion. It's nice because initial push has the same amount of unit as a 4 gate. There's a variation of 1 zealot 1 sentry 4 stalkers or 1 zealot 5 stalker. Not many NA server terrans know about this build so they complain about 4 gate when they lose initially to this rush.
This is where the issue started. While I was waiting for the 4th game, I was told Team JA were arguing about me maphacking. They were saying there are many area where they think I was hacking. First one was my initial attack with 1 zealot 5 stalkers. They said "why would anyone do that? Never seen that....." well I explained above.
Second issue was why did I send a stalker to his expo at 12 instead of sending an observer. I spawned at 5 and he spawned at 11. On my initial push, I went in and saw bunker with marauder and saw a CC building close to it. After my initial push, I wanted to deny him expo so I rallied up my units at his choke and to block him from coming out. I assumed his expo was at 12 which any toss would with a common sense would think. My observers were late and after seeing him not come out for a while, my biggest concern is him making drops to flank my units which could end the game instead of checking his expo. Instead of sending my observer to 12 expo, I made a pylon behind the rock from 1 and warped in a stalker to see anything. Argument from BioOrMech was, he always expos at 12 and he never got caught....
I went to their chatroom to explain my point of view to BioOrMech and their leader CuHz but they didn't want to listen and since I didn't play like how they expected, they just wanted to cancel the clan war after going down 0-3. I noticed on their clan war list, they have overwhelming wins but not losses. While I was looking for an apology for accusing of maphack, all I got from the clan leader was "I don't care about you and your nobody clan, clan war is cancelled". It's sad to see a good clan with good roster behave this way in a friendly clan war where there is nothing to be gained from winning. Hope they learn something from this.
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Same thing happened to one of my clan members with JA where we were accused of being BM because our player stayed in the game when it was still anyone's game. 
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you see mate.
HOW DARE YOU PLAY IN A FASHION I WASNT EXPECTING HOW DARE YOU I WANT YOU TO NOT SCOUT MY HIDDEN BASES I WANT YOU TO NOT DO ANY OFFTIMING PUSHES TO CATCH ME OUT I WANT YOU TO JUST PLAY NORMAL. IF NOT YOU MUST BE MAPHACKING. OH AND MAPHACKERS ALWAYS LIE SO IF YOU SAID YOU DIDNT MAP HACK THAT MEANS YOU ARE A MAP HACKER AND IF YOU SAY YOU ARE YOU JUST ADMITTED IT!
some people just think that are top top shit and well use anything as an excuse to back it up. considering this clan had so many wins and not much losses could mean they do the same to other clans or they are actually good but you just beasted them and they cried?
oh i would love to meet these individuals in person, wont be so tough when they arent chatting through a computer 
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That blows. Never heard of JA or its players but to me personally, their reputation just took a big hit.
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I watched the replays multiple times and heard the other side and I gotta say, doesn't seem like any type of cheating. Hope you get that apology.
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Sounds like ex-counter strike players, to me. Remember, if you're getting stomped in a clanwar, it's not because your team is bad, but because the other team is hacking.
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I saw the replay and it didn't seem like there was any cheating going on. My only question is there was that part in the Shakuras game where you casted forcefield at the ramp (11:07) then less than a second later, a marine was about to walk out. It could just be a coincidence but I was just curious about that.
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So, who is Team JA anyway?
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On February 28 2011 15:01 FinestHour wrote:
So, who is Team JA anyway?
a 'somebody clan' apparently
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On my initial push, I went in and saw bunker with marauder and saw a CC building close to it.
You'd figure this would be obvious and something to take note of.
Sorry to hear that mate, can't you have them disqualified or shamed?
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Sounds like the type of kids that would get all in-your-face when they win, but then pull the plug and disconnect (and not take a loss) when they were getting owned.
I read the other thread created by the guy who accused you of hacking, and his argument was laughable. He didn't like that you threw down a forcefield in front of a Terran's army on XNC. Sigh.
Some people just can't take a loss. Don't worry about it
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On February 28 2011 15:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Sounds like the type of kids that would get all in-your-face when they win, but then pull the plug and disconnect (and not take a loss) when they were getting owned. I read the other thread created by the guy who accused you of hacking, and his argument was laughable. He didn't like that you threw down a forcefield in front of a Terran's army on XNC. Sigh. Some people just can't take a loss. Don't worry about it
Link please, would love to see this thread.
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On February 28 2011 15:05 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 15:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Sounds like the type of kids that would get all in-your-face when they win, but then pull the plug and disconnect (and not take a loss) when they were getting owned. I read the other thread created by the guy who accused you of hacking, and his argument was laughable. He didn't like that you threw down a forcefield in front of a Terran's army on XNC. Sigh. Some people just can't take a loss. Don't worry about it Link please, would love to see this thread.
Here ya go: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=197074
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On February 28 2011 15:05 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 15:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Sounds like the type of kids that would get all in-your-face when they win, but then pull the plug and disconnect (and not take a loss) when they were getting owned. I read the other thread created by the guy who accused you of hacking, and his argument was laughable. He didn't like that you threw down a forcefield in front of a Terran's army on XNC. Sigh. Some people just can't take a loss. Don't worry about it Link please, would love to see this thread.
This is the thread that was posted from a member of Team JA.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=197074¤tpage=last
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Said my piece (peace?), thanks! I was going to be a bit more personal, but come to realize that the underlying problem is the hacking, but how the whole situation was handled.
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Edit;Nevermind.
Seriously though, whiners gonna whine.
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Sorry that this happened to you. I watched the replay posted in the other thread, and you played very well. It's shameful that playing well drives other people to rage like that.
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This sucks, but at the same time, by creating that thread team JA has gone from a clan no one's heard of to a clan no one likes. I don't think your credibility has been hurt by this
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There were missing units from the Terran army, including a hurt medivac and some marauders that were there previously when he first pushed up the army.
I'd be interested to know if that was his reasoning (if he noticed them) or if there was just sort of a "bad feeling about it", which is an entirely reasonable justification for warping in just a couple units.
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