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Nobody here knows who I am despite being here for so many years. This is to be expected since I haven't really accomplished anything nor have I contributed anything significant to the TL community. Although I only registered my account in 2004, I've been lurking around these forums since the site first started. I've watched the forums grow from a few members to what it is today. I essentially grew up reading these forums, which is why I think it is appropriate for me to to say my good byes here - even if no one knows who I am 
Truth be told, this is my second time quitting gaming. The first time was in 2005. I was young... and in love... with BW. I had found myself playing BW for 12 hours/day throughout the summer. It didn't take long before I realized I had an addiction problem, so one day I just decided to stop playing and stopped visiting the forums. The first month was the toughest, but gradually it became easier and easier until BW was nothing but a distant memory.
Suddenly I'm in university and one of my old buddies told me about CSL. I was hesitant at first, but I told myself "why not?" and signed up for the school team. I signed up for an account on ICCup and started training. Needless to say, I was destroyed in my first games back after not playing for so many years. However, I made it to D+ with a reasonable 12-7 record. What was more shocking was how the game had completely evolved. I mean.... wtf is muta stacking?... who the hell is Bisu and why is everyone using his build?... At least PvT and PvP was still more or less the same.
I eventually made it to C+ during that season of ICCup. The beauty of BW is that it's a lot like riding a bike. You can get rusty after years of not biking, but you never forget.
SC2 is released! I didn't even touch the game for the first few of its release. I finished the campaign during the Christmas holiday and took a stab at the 1v1 shortly after. With no understanding of the game I marined, maraudered and expoed my way to diamond. It's like Day[9] always said during his BW dailies, the problem with lower ranked players is that they never have enough stuff.
I've given SC2 an honest try. I tried watching replays, watching streams, watching tournament streams, playing with friends, laddering etc., but SC2 just doesn't have a hook on me. Perhaps the game just isn't exciting? SC2 feels like a rock-paper-scissor match (lol... try to decipher all the meanings of that...). But more importantly, I think I've just outgrown gaming. I feel very indifferent whenever I win or lose, whereas in my youth I would become upset when I lose and celebrate when I win.
As for the TL forums itself, my soul cringes when I see what it has become. It pains me that there is now a need for red warnings for bad posts. Don't get me wrong, there are tons of quality posts everyday, but it's just a shame that I have to filter through the same number of useless posts to find them. I feel the new generation of gamers that have descended on this community have brought along with them a new culture. I'm too old, my bones are brittle, and I no longer have the strength to adapt.
And with that, I bid my farewell to gaming and to my internet home TL. I will still play BW and SC2 every now and then, but it will probably only be whenever I find myself with 20-30 minutes to kill. As I'm trying to conclude this, I'm having glimpses of picking up my copy of SC1 11 years ago. I'm 21 now and I'm looking at the very same CD sitting on my desk, and you know what? I think I might install the game and play a few before the night is over.
gg TL. Thanks for the memories and thanks for being my childhood.
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see ya 
 
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Just because you're quitting the game doesn't mean you have to quit the community :O
I quit SC2 months ago and I still love the forums!
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On February 25 2011 13:51 Empyrean wrote:Just because you're quitting the game doesn't mean you have to quit the community :O I quit SC2 months ago and I still love the forums!
Agreed. So many ppl stick around the community after not gaming.
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On February 25 2011 13:51 Empyrean wrote:Just because you're quitting the game doesn't mean you have to quit the community :O I quit SC2 months ago and I still love the forums!
True that.
I don't play BW or SC2 AT ALL anymore and I still love TL and watching Proleague and such.
You ultimately decide your path though, so good luck!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
You'll be back!!! I hope at least watch the TSL?
Anyway. Best of luck in the future and never forget us!
It pains me that there is now a need for red warnings for bad posts We have something in the works with regard to this actually.
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yeah I don't game too much anymore. SC2 didn't really hook me. I occasionally pick up a single player game like bioshock or amnesia but that's about it. I still come around here for my mafia forum. Anyway I am sure you will find your way back here eventually. Most of us do, even if we gave up gaming.
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I hope you're not in your twentys because that's so early to give up gaming. I remember a few of my friends quit gaming in their first year of college. They thought they outgrew it. They were wrong lol. Now they say things like g4l. Or gamer 4 life
Just read you are 21. Don't worry. You'll be back to gaming. Lol.
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I agree with the posters above me, you may not enjoy playing video games anymore, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy watching the professionals at work. I haven't played SC2 in 6 months and bw in 9 months, yet my passion for proleague/OSL/MSL and GSL are as strong as they've ever been. It's the same with any other sport.
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You're fooling yourself if you think you won't be back. 21 is far too young to be citing generational differences and giving up TL is probably more of a phase than a sign of maturity. Maybe you're spending too much time in sc2 LR threads and strategy?
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A poignant post--I'm sure a lot of people who have played/been playing BW for a while can relate to some degree.
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Regarding your perspective on the content of the forums, if you look at an old topic in any old thread you'll see that the posts were often one-line garbage, flaming, arguing, et cetera. It's not that all the TL newbies today are making more crappy posts; it's that there was much less moderating then. The quality of posting has probably risen, on average.
Example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=7949¤tpage=All
I did the same as you for a while--left in college during Savior's rise, then came back wondering who the hell Taekbang-Leessang were, where was Leg's kangaroo and why PuertoRican wasn't posting anymore
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I'm having the opposite problem, I just feel so unmotivated to do other things (programming, homework, etc.) and do that in my "free time" and game for the majority of my time. I wish I could be like you =(
Maybe SC2 will become an amazing game in a couple of expansions' time, and you'll be back then 
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I agree with the indifference to winning or losing in SC2, but bw? A hard-fought win is still amazing =/
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Even death cannot keep Juliet from her Romeo
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And to go off with a bang, I'm gonna play in the TL Open this weekend
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sounds like a good decision, cya OP.
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You dont have to leave!!! I stopped playing sc2 and bw for a few months and still came here every day for the community. Now i play sc2 again though
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
Wait until the expansion packs bring you back! keke
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You can't quit gaming.. that's unjust. What will your children think of you when you say, "Oh sure i'm one of the few with an authentic 2004 registered TL account.. But I gave that up.." They'll call you a sham, a fraud a pussy even. Do you want to be that man? Or do you want to be the man that told the world to go to hell and kept gaming. Your choice.
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I wish skill was absorbable... I'd totally take his hahahaha
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That was quite touching. I always come back to games though, for the nostalgia.. You can't truly quit games my friend. I always end up once a year fishing for a 22 pounder:
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Or charging metroid prime:
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You'll be back!
As for the forums, my account is new, but I have an older account that's been around for a few years. The answer is quite simple, and you probably know: sc2 came out, increased traffic enormously, thus birthing a bunch of young idiots that don't have manners. I have no idea why mods don't IP ban for 1-3 months at a time. Should keep most people and keep the forums tighter and smaller<-- (lol). Traffic will still be super high. People still need help, but at least they will actually look for the info versus posting useless threads; also that would prevent a million bm posts... Alas, not my sandbox.
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Farewell!
I too grew up with BW (and D2 ^^ ). I quit gaming right at 20 after I realized playing WoW was sucking up a lot of my time for a lot of running around doing nothing, and there was college to be had!
And then in 2010 I found out about SC2 beta aaaand at 23 I'm more hardcore of a gamer than I ever was. You may be back, you may not, who knows!
Been around TL for a long time, but not as long as you have. I lurked. I never created an account because I never felt like I belonged. Recently I decided that was a dumb way to think. With the new fantastic crowd of gamers, and their *ahem* comments, I actually feel like I belong even less than before.
Good luck wherever life may take you. (even if that's right back here!)
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I don't know you as a person, but I will miss you as a TL member. oodbye and gl in your life
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Like someone else said, you can quit gaming but not the community, either way you may be coming back sometime so never say never I myself quit BW and SC2 too but I still have both installed in my HD, I know that wherever I feel like it I will go and play some more.
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Bye All the best!!
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On February 25 2011 13:51 Empyrean wrote:Just because you're quitting the game doesn't mean you have to quit the community :O I quit SC2 months ago and I still love the forums!
yeah, I played only 2 games of SC2 and my last game of BW was about 9 months ago
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It is always a bit sad to read goodbyes. I agree with all the people who pointed out that quitting a game doesn't mean you have to quit the community. Personally I have never even tried to play a game seriously. Still my love for Starcraft has lasted since 2001 or something, just to be replaced by SC2 a year ago. I played Broodwar way more than I play SC2, but I really love watching streams, vods, interviews or whatever SC2 related. Including lurking and forumwhoring. Hope you at least stick around in the community, or return after taking a break.
When I read your first paragraph, I kept thinking how weird it is that I don't know you even though we kind of have the same history on this site. Long time lurkers That's Internet for you, I guess.
Either way, take care, hope to see you back!
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Sad to see you go. However your priorities must be respected by others and yourself - that's personal freedom. Because it is problematic if gaming interferes with your other priorities and then it must be done that you 'quit' in order to have a straightfoward perspective.
I remember when i 'quit' gaming in 2001/2002. My school 'career' was always on a knifes edge in part due to gaming. So i decided to dramatically 'quit' and focus on school. And indeed i then went on to do well in school and even continue to university to get a degree! (I now have a computer science degree). In this time i learnt a lot! Math, computer science, a dash of physics and some RL lessons. However i 'returned' to gaming a bit before finishing my degree in about 2007 - so i guess i _properly_ 'quit' for about 6 years - that was really a bit jarring.
At this point let me mention that no i haven't 'returned' to comptetitive gaming. I 'returned' to casual gaming (and especially watching commentaries!) - and haven't regretted returning at all. I only played a bit on iccup - i never played enough to go beyond D level. I'm an old scool gamer who played SC when it came out in 1998 - my PC was even too slow for SC at that time! (if you can imagine that - it was a Compaq Presario 90Mghz) - but i digress...
However having 'quit' and now 'returned' i feel that i can have the best of both worlds - RL and gaming! I can have the pleasure of playing while still having the personal freedom of doing anything i want in RL!
So much for my little nostalgia/soap box wall of text.
I hope someone found this entertaining to read and enjoy your day! (*psheldr goes back to cleaning the toilets)
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As others have said, why do you have to leave TL? I can understand if you cut down or quit gaming, but you can still hang out here in the community.
On February 25 2011 21:02 psheldr wrote:
(*psheldr goes back to cleaning the toilets)
Gonna do that all day tomorrow and on Sunday, my work is so great. ^__^
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I hardly play any SC2 at all (maybe a few games on the weekend) and basically no bw anymore, yet have been a somewhat active reader/poster here since 2002, and I am pushing 30. Basically I just watch gsl nowadays.
Just cut back on your gaming, and no need to leave the community, to reiterate what others have said.
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Well sad to see anyone leave the TL community. Best of luck.
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You're 21 and think that you're old?.. I hate you.
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Wat I can understand leaving gaming for a bit, but why leave TL? I haven't played sc2 in months, and it's been at least a year since I even touched BW, but I stick around TL for the awesome community!
bm quitter!
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I quit a couple of times before, back on CS twice and in WoW once. Kept coming back, now I just realised I am a game like other people have theory hobbies. And I don't intend to quit again, maybe alter my playtimes etc, but I won't quit ever again.
About the forum, I can't really judge because I'm so new here, but the amount of garbage/hate is quite sad sometimes, but something I saw in every online community . As soon as something is online and they can hide behind some alias it brings out the worst in people. In general I f-ing love this site and community in general
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On February 25 2011 13:51 Empyrean wrote:Just because you're quitting the game doesn't mean you have to quit the community :O I quit SC2 months ago and I still love the forums!
i think leaving the community was the point, wasnt it?
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Good luck in your future endeavors brave soldier.
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Tbh, I feel the same as you, about the fact that sc2 doesn't really excite me that much, so I just stick to GSL, OSL, MSL, Proleague etc.
And I haven't quit this awesome community even though I haven't played in a while (save for the fact that I do log in once per month to play like 4 custom games with my friends because they only have time for that then) so yeah.
Don't quit TL :T
However, if you are still adamant about this decision of yours, I wish you good luck.
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