EPTAsk me anything about being a Man, Korean Style - Page 2
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m4gdelen4
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:22 m4gdelen4 wrote: what do koreans deem to be the manliest sexual position? If I could guess.... + Show Spoiler + Doggy style!RawR but to be honest I wish XenOsky- asked this question. | ||
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chongu
Malaysia2593 Posts
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:17 T.I.P. wrote: whats the most manly beer to drink? In Korea, beer is just beer, if you want to talk about a drink that defines a man, drink whiskey or mix the poktanju (the bomb): half a cup of beer with half of shot of whiskey downed in 1 shot, or drink your whiskey straight in sips if it over 21 years in age. Never drink less than 18 years if you over 30, if you're under 25, continue to drink beer and soju. | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: If I could guess.... + Show Spoiler + Doggy style!RawR but to be honest I wish XenOsky- asked this question. arf, you are correct. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
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thedeadhaji
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol. | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:36 chongu wrote: What is your personal opinions/thoughts on girls and guys going for plastic surgery? how % of ppl you know has had some minor/major plastic surgery done over there? If women need plastic surgery, they should get it. And need is relative in Korea, where nearly every single upper middle class girl in Korea has some form of plastic surgery, minor or otherwise. Korea is mistaken to be very superficial, in fact, its beyond that, Korea is a place of completely unreasonable expectations for all things of beauty, success and manliness, thus the resulting highest rate of suicide in developed countries. While my wife does not have plastic surgery, because she comes from a very conservative family background, she would if she was allowed to. Among my wealthy lady friends, about 95%, among the madams I know who entertain my clients, 110%, among Christians, about 15%, so its a lot. But mostly just in Seoul, outside Seoul the numbers drop a lot. Men should not have plastic surgery, their character as being a man should be enough, unless its some thing like an overbite that should be looked at for long term dental reasons. Many people, especially overseas Koreans are very disgusted by this all, thinking that plastic surgery is a completely bad thing, but I'd rather the woman have plastic surgery, look a bit more beautiful, have more self confidence than to succumb to the competitive social pressures. And nowadays plastic surgery in Korea is so advanced that it looks very natural, the adjustments. And truth be told as a Korean man, I like having beautiful women surround me and in my eye sight. You should know that many many beautiful celebrities that are naturally beautiful are still forced by their management agencies to have more work done! Its that much pressure. But the only people who do major plastic surgery, like jaw scrapping, cheek bone implants are the really unfortunate ugly ones, in Korea with 80% of the population having high cheek bones, being ugly is really a curse here. For them, its too blatantly obvious that they had plastic surgery that it completely defeats the purpose, for them they have my sympathy for living in such a brutal place like South Korea. | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:48 goiflin wrote: Should I get a job that I have a passion for, or a job that gives me alot of money? Job that gives you a lot of money, then save that money and make your own company of what you are passionate for and then really enjoy your life. Life is in steps, not just way or another. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
So basically I have been working for Ernst&Young for about a year as an audit associate. It's been really tiring lately due to OT and whatnot, even though I kinda like what I'm doing right now. On an average day I work for about 10~12 hours, and it gets worse during peak period (in Vietnam, it's from Jan to Mar as the stock exchange requires listed companies to submit their audited FS by the 31st of March for the 31-Dec year end). The pay is decent, not too high but definitely not shitty. I mean not like I have time to spend money anyway lol seeing how work has been treating me. Since college I've always had in mind that being an accountant would be my career path. I'm currently half way to get an ACCA certificate (only 5 more papers to go). My current goal is to become an audit manager (which is another 3-4 years to go at least). However, I suddenly realize that even if that happens, I will still have to work 12~14 hours a day. So I question the worthiness of moving on. At the moment I'm open to another offer to work for an consulting firm (McKinsey if you've ever heard of it). It's not technically an offer yet since I still have to go through the entrance test and interview. The pay there is much better, around 4 times what I'm getting right now. But I'm not sure if I'll like it there. So my question is: should I jump ship and take the risk? or should I just stick with it till the end? P/S: Please pardon my English since it's not my first language  | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:54 thedeadhaji wrote: Your take on the middle east situation and its effect on the American, European, and Emerging Stock markets, respectively? Biblically, I'd say, the anti-christ is due for an arrival any time now to bring peace to the middle east, stop all this crazy weather and bring the accent of man to past the heights of baal so that we can all see the folly of man when it all comes crashing down. Personally as Korean man, too early to tell, right now it would be unnecessary speculation; unless it really affects our energy supplies, in which case the American gov't will solve the issue with brute force, even if Obama is still president. But for Korea, no effect at all after all, we still have NK to deal with ^^ | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
I hear that there is a set of traits which Korean girls find attractive in a guy. May I know what those traits are, or would the universe implode if you tell me? =0 | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
Annyong~ I'm trying to learn Korean, so I'm probably going to try conversing with my aunty(s), but how do I know if they're speaking a dialect or something that might be different than what I should use if I'm going to study abroad? | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:55 StorkHwaiting wrote: So what would be the impact socially if you were a guy that does not drink whatsoever and lived in Korea? Would other guys consider you less manly? Think you are queer? Think you have some devious plan that you need to be sober for? I ask this because I don't drink at all, yet I find that the vast majority of people in America seem to need it like a baby needs their mother's teat. Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol. This situation need to be clarified: if you can't drink but try, you are pitied and accepted for your effort. if you don't want to drink or can't drink in a corporate situation, you will never be anything than a team manager and never a VP unless your organization is a Christian organization. You are approaching drinking from a Western point of view, as the purpose is to enjoy and get drunk with friends. In Korea the approach is very different, it is a way to show your true face to your friends without any ability to hide yourself in both the good and the bad. In Korea, saying that because you were drunk you did something bad would not be an excuse, in fact, we would think that that is actually the true thoughts/mind that you have when you are sober but didn't express it. In Taiwan, drinking a lot is considered a macho act, in Korea, drinking a lot has nothing to do with being manly or not, because women are expected to drink as well to the their own relative limits, rather, drinking is to share friendship in Korea in social situations. In business situations: drinking is to measure the control and character of a man, in not how much he can drink, but how much can he drink while remaining to be sober, rational and in control. Also, it allows both parties to glance at each others character. Once this phase of the drinking is concluded, then the parties are allowed to now just get drunk and enjoy themselves if they choose, but most of the time at this point, the older CEO will excuse himself with this much drink and let the lower levels get drunk. Why? Because drinking was for business. So you need to first understanding that drinking is a very deep cultural aspect of Koreans, not just for having fun. Now if you refuse to drink, its like refusing the first step in really getting to know one another. Of course, over time you will get to know each other without drinking, but this is the normal and faster way to do it, and the other way, is actually not the normal way, unless you are in high school. TO BE SOBER and maintain it Guide in Korea (for those who do not enjoy drinking): 1. eat lots before you go. 2. drink either a Dawn 88 or Condition F BEFORE drinking. 3. if you don't have those, then a slug of commercial heart burn stomach coating is a good substitute. 4. you dictate the pace of drinking, if you can't drink much, drink a couple of shots first and make everyone cheers with you, there will be others who can't drink well either, so then they will try to slow things down and be your buffer 5. always be sipping your drink, look active and so people think you really enjoy drinking so they won't force you to one shot as often (the one shot is forced on people who don't look serious to drink) 6. When you drink, look happy, don't complain and you won't be noticed much. 7. After every shot or one shot, chase it with water and with food (anju) Koreans always eat when drinking 8. Koreans drink from 7pm dinner to 3am in the morning continually, so its marthathon, in between drinking places try to sober up as much as possible, I have been drunk sober drunk sober many times during long nights and when you are sober again, go on the attack and force people to drink at your own pace thus putting other over the edge. 9. Duck out when you have a chance, bu don't say goodbye, just go quietly, and don't wait until its the time for the next destination, or else others will make scene. 10. REMEMBER TO NEVER STOP CHASING AND EATING THROUGOUT. Personally I drink and love to drink, but sometimes after 2 weeks of corporate drinking i will duck out of some social drinking for the sake of liver and with people I know well. I agree, you don't need to drink to have fun, but I guarantee if you did drink with Koreans, you'd expose a different side of your character. And with the health reasons, I completely agree, but just remember, drinking in Korea is cultural interaction, not just fun. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
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.MistiK
Netherlands347 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:55 StorkHwaiting wrote: So what would be the impact socially if you were a guy that does not drink whatsoever and lived in Korea? Would other guys consider you less manly? Think you are queer? Think you have some devious plan that you need to be sober for? I ask this because I don't drink at all, yet I find that the vast majority of people in America seem to need it like a baby needs their mother's teat. Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol. The point is, people don't understand why you're trying to be different so hard. sure, drinking is not good for your health, but it's not that detrimental either. If someone always hops instead of walking normally, you'd give him a strange look, right? | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On February 23 2011 01:32 .MistiK wrote: The point is, people don't understand why you're trying to be different so hard. sure, drinking is not good for your health, but it's not that detrimental either. If someone always hops instead of walking normally, you'd give him a strange look, right? I don't drink. Why? Because it has horrible inpact on my training and I'm a guy that needs to be fit, alcohol pretty much ruin any kind of activity you do untill it's out of your system meaning that I would have to spend alot more time in the gym if I did drink. Is that a good enough reason not to? | ||
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MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 01:00 nayumi wrote: I have this little dilemma right now and from your previous blogs you seem like an experienced businessman so here goes (please bare with me cause this might be long): So basically I have been working for Ernst&Young for about a year as an audit associate. It's been really tiring lately due to OT and whatnot, even though I kinda like what I'm doing right now. On an average day I work for about 10~12 hours, and it gets worse during peak period (in Vietnam, it's from Jan to Mar as the stock exchange requires listed companies to submit their audited FS by the 31st of March for the 31-Dec year end). The pay is decent, not too high but definitely not shitty. I mean not like I have time to spend money anyway lol seeing how work has been treating me. Since college I've always had in mind that being an accountant would be my career path. I'm currently half way to get an ACCA certificate (only 5 more papers to go). My current goal is to become an audit manager (which is another 3-4 years to go at least). However, I suddenly realize that even if that happens, I will still have to work 12~14 hours a day. So I question the worthiness of moving on. At the moment I'm open to another offer to work for an consulting firm (McKinsey if you've ever heard of it). It's not technically an offer yet since I still have to go through the entrance test and interview. The pay there is much better, around 4 times what I'm getting right now. But I'm not sure if I'll like it there. So my question is: should I jump ship and take the risk? or should I just stick with it till the end? P/S: Please pardon my English since it's not my first language Well since I was a senior consultant at PricewaterhouseCoopers, I can answer your questions ^^ Your work load is only really tough during Jan-Mar, otherwise you are doing inventory checks and onsite audits and maybe due diligence check ups or quarterly audits of divisions of public companies. Being an accountant at E&Y is a very good job and stable and once you get all your accreditation, you can look to be a senior manager and even a director and not have to work those hours at all as the mangers and associates do all the grunt work. Also, after 2 years, the work load is still heavy, but your know how is very good, so the task will become MUCH easier, 100%. You can look to go into controls and assurance or some other divisions where is not as heavy like taxes as well. But for your pay and work, this is what being an accountant is all about for one of the big 4 and E&Y is a great firm. 100%. Ah McKinsey, do you know they pay is 4 times higher? Take what you do in your busy months, then think 75% of that work load, 3 weeks out of every month for the entire year and that is the work load. BUT, if you can get in, wow, this is the cream of the crop of consultant companies in the world, after working here, they will support your MBA to a US school (if you agree to go back) and even if leave to do your MBA, being a McKinsey consultant will allow you to be a senior executive a most major firms and everyone will know you are the best of the best in human resource. So if you decide to be really ambitious, then go for it (but dont' quit until you have the job), but I would say, you're view on your current job will be 100% different in one more year, E&Y is a great firm and your pay will increase dramatically past manager level. But if youre looking to work less, no way is McKinsey for you, even the money wont' be enough. So look at your ambition, being at E&Y is a really great thing though, no one can sell that short, but its a different path all together, consultant or accountant. Do you see yourself as being a VP or CEO of a company later on? Then go for it! If you want to be a CFO, you can still be a great one with a background from E&Y. ^^ | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On February 23 2011 01:26 MightyAtom wrote: This situation need to be clarified: if you can't drink but try, you are pitied and accepted for your effort. if you don't want to drink or can't drink in a corporate situation, you will never be anything than a team manager and never a VP unless your organization is a Christian organization. You are approaching drinking from a Western point of view, as the purpose is to enjoy and get drunk with friends. In Korea the approach is very different, it is a way to show your true face to your friends without any ability to hide yourself in both the good and the bad. In Korea, saying that because you were drunk you did something bad would not be an excuse, in fact, we would think that that is actually the true thoughts/mind that you have when you are sober but didn't express it. In Taiwan, drinking a lot is considered a macho act, in Korea, drinking a lot has nothing to do with being manly or not, because women are expected to drink as well to the their own relative limits, rather, drinking is to share friendship in Korea in social situations. In business situations: drinking is to measure the control and character of a man, in not how much he can drink, but how much can he drink while remaining to be sober, rational and in control. Also, it allows both parties to glance at each others character. Once this phase of the drinking is concluded, then the parties are allowed to now just get drunk and enjoy themselves if they choose, but most of the time at this point, the older CEO will excuse himself with this much drink and let the lower levels get drunk. Why? Because drinking was for business. So you need to first understanding that drinking is a very deep cultural aspect of Koreans, not just for having fun. Now if you refuse to drink, its like refusing the first step in really getting to know one another. Of course, over time you will get to know each other without drinking, but this is the normal and faster way to do it, and the other way, is actually not the normal way, unless you are in high school. TO BE SOBER and maintain it Guide in Korea (for those who do not enjoy drinking): 1. eat lots before you go. 2. drink either a Dawn 88 or Condition F BEFORE drinking. 3. if you don't have those, then a slug of commercial heart burn stomach coating is a good substitute. 4. you dictate the pace of drinking, if you can't drink much, drink a couple of shots first and make everyone cheers with you, there will be others who can't drink well either, so then they will try to slow things down and be your buffer 5. always be sipping your drink, look active and so people think you really enjoy drinking so they won't force you to one shot as often (the one shot is forced on people who don't look serious to drink) 6. When you drink, look happy, don't complain and you won't be noticed much. 7. After every shot or one shot, chase it with water and with food (anju) Koreans always eat when drinking 8. Koreans drink from 7pm dinner to 3am in the morning continually, so its marthathon, in between drinking places try to sober up as much as possible, I have been drunk sober drunk sober many times during long nights and when you are sober again, go on the attack and force people to drink at your own pace thus putting other over the edge. 9. Duck out when you have a chance, bu don't say goodbye, just go quietly, and don't wait until its the time for the next destination, or else others will make scene. 10. REMEMBER TO NEVER STOP CHASING AND EATING THROUGOUT. Personally I drink and love to drink, but sometimes after 2 weeks of corporate drinking i will duck out of some social drinking for the sake of liver and with people I know well. I agree, you don't need to drink to have fun, but I guarantee if you did drink with Koreans, you'd expose a different side of your character. And with the health reasons, I completely agree, but just remember, drinking in Korea is cultural interaction, not just fun. Thanks a lot, MightyAtom. That makes a lot more sense to me now. I didn't quite understand the cultural and social significance of drinking in Korea. At the same time, I have a very weak liver (born that way), so I feel pretty awful for a while after drinking. My tolerance is good and when I do get drunk I mostly smile a lot and then fall asleep, but the health effects for me are just really hard to live with. Guess I'm just not built for Korean society lol. To be honest though, doesn't that make for really fat people? o_0. I would think binge eating/drinking every weekend would really take a toll on the body. | ||
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