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nerium
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Philippines512 Posts
January 30 2011 16:06 GMT
#1
I was researching and finding out about the different dimesions just out of curiosity and stumbled on this youtube vid. After watching it, my mind was raped. I was expecting it to be much simpler or something that I could grasp a little bit but I was wrong. Pretty good mind rape though



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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 30 2011 16:16 GMT
#2
It makes sense if you think about it.
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
January 30 2011 16:37 GMT
#3
Its not that its a mind rape its that its twisting theories with word play and logical falsehoods to connect theories about physical constructs together which only exist in there own theories.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
January 30 2011 16:37 GMT
#4
That was actually the least mind raping description of string theory I've ever seen. Everything actually makes some degree of sense lol.
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Flavalanche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States164 Posts
January 30 2011 16:47 GMT
#5
It makes a ton of sense, but higher dimensional control over these dimensions, or what you might call time dimensions, is impossible

Higher spacial dimensions, are an entirely different thing, that are controllable and such.
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anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
January 30 2011 16:58 GMT
#6
sweet; clear analogies and explanations of the concepts
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barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
January 30 2011 17:01 GMT
#7

I suppose not really the same concept of other dimensions but I found it even more fascinating. Carl Sagan is amazing.
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gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
January 30 2011 17:24 GMT
#8
LOL Carl Sagan is KING!
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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
January 30 2011 18:10 GMT
#9
On January 31 2011 02:01 barth wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnURElCzGc0
I suppose not really the same concept of other dimensions but I found it even more fascinating. Carl Sagan is amazing.


He didn't show the goddamn shadow of the tesserect. FFS! :p
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
January 30 2011 18:17 GMT
#10
Tell Carl Sagan to stop blowing my mind!
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 30 2011 18:20 GMT
#11
On January 31 2011 01:37 Adeeler wrote:
Its not that its a mind rape its that its twisting theories with word play and logical falsehoods to connect theories about physical constructs together which only exist in there own theories.


Enjoy all 4 of your dimensions hater.
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
January 30 2011 18:34 GMT
#12
On January 31 2011 03:20 Slayer91 wrote:
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On January 31 2011 01:37 Adeeler wrote:
Its not that its a mind rape its that its twisting theories with word play and logical falsehoods to connect theories about physical constructs together which only exist in there own theories.


Enjoy all 4 of your dimensions hater.

Well Adeeler is actually right.
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
January 30 2011 18:38 GMT
#13
On January 31 2011 03:10 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 02:01 barth wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnURElCzGc0
I suppose not really the same concept of other dimensions but I found it even more fascinating. Carl Sagan is amazing.


He didn't show the goddamn shadow of the tesserect. FFS! :p


The tesserect cube is the shadow we can't preceive the real tesserect because we live in 3 dimensions.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
January 30 2011 18:43 GMT
#14
Yikes, I'm fine with 3D for now..
It is what it is...
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
January 30 2011 19:11 GMT
#15
On January 31 2011 01:37 Half wrote:
That was actually the least mind raping description of string theory I've ever seen. Everything actually makes some degree of sense lol.


Indeed, made plenty of sense to me, honestly =s
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viletomato
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 20:08:44
January 30 2011 20:06 GMT
#16
So what about 4th 5th 6th etc.. spatial dimensions?

My question is, what is usually accepted as the more correct view of dimensions, spatial or time type dimensions.

I remember reading the book and watching the Nova program about The Elegant Universe which claims that one of more popular versions of string theory is the 11 dimension theory. 3 Spatial, 1 time, 6 curled up and 1 upper dimensional (multiverse) for a total 11. Some one care to explain what the 6 "curled" up dimensions are? It really is different from that video of 10 dims posted in the OP. And since The Elegant Universe includes the leading Physicists of today like Ed Witten, Green and such, I tend to believe their concepts of dimensions than the crap that the OP video is talking about.

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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
January 30 2011 20:33 GMT
#17
On January 31 2011 03:38 Nyxs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 03:10 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
On January 31 2011 02:01 barth wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnURElCzGc0
I suppose not really the same concept of other dimensions but I found it even more fascinating. Carl Sagan is amazing.


He didn't show the goddamn shadow of the tesserect. FFS! :p


The tesserect cube is the shadow we can't preceive the real tesserect because we live in 3 dimensions.


Oh. Ooooooooh. Feeling pretty stupid now. :p
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
January 30 2011 20:39 GMT
#18
On January 31 2011 03:10 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
He didn't show the goddamn shadow of the tesserect. FFS! :p

The 3d tesserect cube IS the shadow of the 4th dimensional tesserect in 3d space. The 2nd cube is the shadow.
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redeux
Profile Joined November 2010
United States148 Posts
January 30 2011 20:48 GMT
#19
I got mind raped in 11th grade when I took AP physics but I guess that was interesting to see them illustrate it. A lot of people try to just give names to each dimension without actually demonstrating the folds and etc.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada379 Posts
January 30 2011 20:53 GMT
#20
That was a cool video, thanks. I'm a physics graduate and still find explanations of higher dimensions very difficult to grasp. I treat them as an abstract mathematical "concept" but often struggle to visualize a higher-dimensional space.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 21:00:37
January 30 2011 20:58 GMT
#21
This is pretty interesting and I was seriously hooked up on this for a while and layed down a lot of thought about it. Seen both videos, here's another one thats not maybe that mindblowing but puts some dimension (no pun intended) into it:
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Shadow of a Rotating Tesseract

I think we're talking about two kinds of higher dimensions here. The spatial dimensions and the 10-dimension theory that Rob shows in the first video. I find both to be perfectly reasonable and understandable but I like to think about spartial dimensions more.
Its funny imagining higher spartial dimensions, I've read quite a lot of articles about it and even tried drawing (Yeah drawing shadows of tesseracts is really fun :D) but to summarize the point, try thinking about us in the 3d world being 4d objects and flat papers being the 3D world (Like Sagan does) and continue from there on. If you think about it long enough, your brain will litterally hurt. You might come to such conclusions that there might exist 4 dimensional creaturs that we just can never come in contact with, or other 3d worlds that crosses in 4-dimensional space right next to us (Like how two 2d-worlds, papers, lying on top of each other never can contact one another) that we can never contact because we're stuck in 3D. And then we havnt even begun on 5D and 6D and so on.

Amazing stuff
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
January 30 2011 22:32 GMT
#22
On January 31 2011 05:39 vnlegend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 03:10 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
He didn't show the goddamn shadow of the tesserect. FFS! :p

The 3d tesserect cube IS the shadow of the 4th dimensional tesserect in 3d space. The 2nd cube is the shadow.


yea but the shadow of the shadow in our 3d world is pretty mind fucking too
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
January 30 2011 22:59 GMT
#23
I know brains can't feel but always when i try to imagine more dimensions mine seems to hurt:\
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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 23:22:05
January 30 2011 23:15 GMT
#24
Interesting stuff. Oh man, this stuff really is intriguing.

EDIT: Youtube is broken, its giving me Ke$ha's "we r who we r" as a recommended video... because I watched P2 of the vids. o.o
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[Eternal]Phoenix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States333 Posts
January 30 2011 23:20 GMT
#25
I was going to go into a massive explanation of why this is incorrect, but it's pretty hard to explain the basics of m-theory without writing a book on it.

I suggest everyone read up on m-theory and spacial geometry if you want to learn how this stuff actually works.

For now I'll just say that there's a definite and precise geometry to spacetime in 10 dimensions that consists of 4 infinite dimensions of spacetime and 6 finite dimensions of space curled up with our familiar 4 dimensions in a 10 dimensional manifold. The model in that video depicts no geometry to 10 dimensional spacetime and has no meaning in string theory, where the geometry of space determines the types of particles which can form.

It's a cute model but it's horrifically wrong. It makes sense which is why it appeals to people. It doesn't however hold any mathematical basis or significance.
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viletomato
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada277 Posts
January 30 2011 23:39 GMT
#26
On January 31 2011 08:20 [Eternal]Phoenix wrote:
I was going to go into a massive explanation of why this is incorrect, but it's pretty hard to explain the basics of m-theory without writing a book on it.

I suggest everyone read up on m-theory and spacial geometry if you want to learn how this stuff actually works.

For now I'll just say that there's a definite and precise geometry to spacetime in 10 dimensions that consists of 4 infinite dimensions of spacetime and 6 finite dimensions of space curled up with our familiar 4 dimensions in a 10 dimensional manifold. The model in that video depicts no geometry to 10 dimensional spacetime and has no meaning in string theory, where the geometry of space determines the types of particles which can form.

It's a cute model but it's horrifically wrong. It makes sense which is why it appeals to people. It doesn't however hold any mathematical basis or significance.



I concur, people tend to accept things they don't understand.
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SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
January 31 2011 00:28 GMT
#27
Oh my... This is why I became a doctor! Lolol... Very cool nonetheless!
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
January 31 2011 00:48 GMT
#28
:S Sweet vid, so hard to grasp
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bongjwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States199 Posts
January 31 2011 00:50 GMT
#29
i just don't really believe a 4d exists.. u can do the math and prove it.. but i won't understand that fully ever, so i won't be able to believe it
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nerium
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Philippines512 Posts
January 31 2011 02:52 GMT
#30
Well it was pretty understandable up onto the 5th dimension. But when it came to sixth, my mind hurt a bit.
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