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agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
January 28 2011 04:10 GMT
#1
I just exited the program. First time on the server, the all were playing Protoss and I lost every single game on 1 base, to the early zealots or to one dragoon. I didn't know what the f**k to do, and in the longest game I played, two Carriers entered my base. And it wasn't that long, you know?

Any way, I suck, I'm depressed, I'm going to bed now.

*****
What's a quote anyway?
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
January 28 2011 04:12 GMT
#2
Don't give up! You can do it.
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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
January 28 2011 04:18 GMT
#3
It's hard, it's not impossible. Keep at it!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 28 2011 04:23 GMT
#4
Hahahahaa I know the feeling!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 28 2011 04:23 GMT
#5
My first time was horrendous as well, but over time I got better, and more recently I've been beating D+ players and starting to comprehend more and more timings when I can beat my opponent. Don't give up
perhaps you would be inspired by some songs!

Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 28 2011 04:26 GMT
#6
Don't take it personally. Everyone starts out like that. That's what makes StarCraft such a beautiful game... The difference of skill between each level of player... Hell, top foreigners basically lose the same way to the pros. The A-class pros lose the same way to the S-class pros. No matter what you do in StarCraft, unless you're Flash, there is always someone much better than you. If you can accept that, you can have fun with StarCraft.

I feel like lots of people come into an activity wanting to be great at it right away. Activities with very little depth will reward that, but those aren't really satisfying in the end. If you try drawing for the first time, you will probably be terrible. That's what gives meaning to your progress as an artist. If you start playing rts for the first time you'll have 20 apm and not know anything about basic strategy. But isn't nice that there is actually a possibility to get better, because 20 apm isn't enough, and the strategy gets much more complex?

BroodWar is the best game ever made because of its skill ceiling (which does not seem to exist). Tic Tac Toe will never be taken seriously because there is an optimal way of playing which even a 12 year old can figure out.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
January 28 2011 04:26 GMT
#7
Hey man, don't give up, you've just started, I'm in the same position as you, I lose to the early pressure in vP. I've recently started on IcCup aswell; maybe we could do a bit of practising, or I could check out one of your replays. Never give up, going on is winning half the battle. ^^
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
January 28 2011 04:30 GMT
#8
I feel you, but when you finally win a game, it makes it that much sweeter! Try practicing with 1v2 or 1v3 against the computer. It won't help you learn enemy build orders, but it will help you learn solid mechanics before entering the cold, merciless abyss that is iCCup.
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 28 2011 04:36 GMT
#9
lol, once upon a time this happened to me as well.
Brood War loyalist
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9823 Posts
January 28 2011 04:38 GMT
#10
The first game you win on iCCup will be forever embedded into your memory

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dts --> 2base carriers go ahead and hate ^^
boomer hands
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
January 28 2011 04:40 GMT
#11
Never Give Up Never Surrender!!!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
whojohnisgalt
Profile Joined December 2010
93 Posts
January 28 2011 04:40 GMT
#12
On January 28 2011 13:38 seRapH wrote:
The first game you win on iCCup will be forever embedded into your memory

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dts --> 2base carriers go ahead and hate ^^

the rock did this against flash ^^ except i think there was a reaver shuttle thrown in as well :D
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
January 28 2011 04:42 GMT
#13
On January 28 2011 13:38 seRapH wrote:
dts --> 2base carriers go ahead and hate ^^

Oh, I will, you frazzin'-brazzin' NO-GOOD HRGR-GRGREN FLIPPIN' FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 28 2011 04:47 GMT
#14
How about this to motivate you?

-SC2 diamond, no one cares.
-BW C, you're a stud.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
January 28 2011 04:51 GMT
#15
Yea in sc1 almost everyone has had that experience where you just get stomped when you start out in multiplayer and it's crazy... then some of us rise up above that eventually and become decent :p

... and that can take years.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
January 28 2011 04:53 GMT
#16
On January 28 2011 13:47 LunarDestiny wrote:
How about this to motivate you?

-SC2 diamond, no one cares.
-BW C, you're a stud.

So true :D
Oh no
_hate
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Japan112 Posts
January 28 2011 04:55 GMT
#17
I'm playing iCCUP again and losing every single game.

A learning experience all over again, but I'm having fun simply because it's Broodwar.
(I have lag due to antihack and w7 but I tell myself that I lose because I'm bad)
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
January 28 2011 05:00 GMT
#18
If you want to practice against Protoss aggression against an extremely mediocre player, I'd be willing to help you out. PM/reply if you want to practice. (I haven't played enough games on ICCup to fall to my rank, so I can't tell you what it is.)
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
January 28 2011 05:04 GMT
#19
much respect to you, keep your head up, learn a little from each game you play and eventually you will be much better :D
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
January 28 2011 05:09 GMT
#20
For me, I put getting D+ on ICCUP as a highlight of my gaming life, and its true what the others say, when you win your first game, it will feel like nothing else you have ever done in a game, I won my first game by cheesing in the middle of the map on andromeda, and this was when I was playing games on one of my 6 or so smurfs so I didn't have to stay at D- for long.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
January 28 2011 05:14 GMT
#21
It's ok, this makes you like high platinum or low diamond SC2... nothing to be ashamed of.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 05:15:39
January 28 2011 05:15 GMT
#22
Dude when I quit bnet and joined iccup I thought I was hot shit. I was like 50+ wins and 6 losses. I got STOMPED like 10 games in a row my first season on iccup. Its tough. But it got better as time progressed.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
January 28 2011 05:20 GMT
#23
I dont wanna sound like a im being a dick but is it your first time attempting to play BW? Cuz if it is Iccup is gunna be one tough SOB, I was never very good on iccup(D+ high) but if i was to try and start my BW career on iccup... I would prolly never have played BW more than one day
KT Flash// WhiteRa/Scarlett/Naniwa/MC/Huk/Nony
Jacobine
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States174 Posts
January 28 2011 05:43 GMT
#24
Iccup is such a bitch, BUT the reward is so amazing. I remember hitting my high rank of D+ after 40+ ladder games and over 200 practice games, mostly getting my butt handed to me time after time after time, and it felt freaking amazing. I mean D+ sucks right????? I promise you will rage, you will cry, you will be frustrated, but those moments of beating some smurfing B rank are totally worth it. If you need a practice partner I play toss, hit me up on ICCUP ID Blindjaco
"Resist that inner boner. - Day[9]"
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 28 2011 05:44 GMT
#25
Just come to OP Teamliquid and maybe you'll find someone willing to help :D
Writerptrk
FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
January 28 2011 05:49 GMT
#26
On January 28 2011 13:38 seRapH wrote:
The first game you win on iCCup will be forever embedded into your memory

+ Show Spoiler +
dts --> 2base carriers go ahead and hate ^^


No shame, my brother from Aiur. No shame.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
January 28 2011 05:57 GMT
#27
I feel you man.
You're trying improve your mechanics and macro, but your opponent does something weird to throw you off.
It happens to me all the time.
But the mere thought of becoming good enough so I can tell what my opponent is doing and react with ease is a powerful motivator.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
January 28 2011 06:14 GMT
#28
This is why I started on US west. Of course I never see people around any more that are as bad as I was when I first started.

As several people have already said, once you get your first win, you'll get the biggest smile you've ever had and will probably watch the replay about 10 times.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
January 28 2011 06:45 GMT
#29
--- Nuked ---
Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
January 28 2011 07:01 GMT
#30
That is exactly how my first 10 games versus protoss went.

My last four games I very nearly busted their nats and annihilated them with 5 hatch hydra (still lost all of them though cuz I fail at scouting for third bases...). Work on your build, it helps so much. This cannot be over emphasized.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 28 2011 07:04 GMT
#31
On January 28 2011 13:47 LunarDestiny wrote:
How about this to motivate you?

-SC2 diamond, no one cares.
-BW C, you're a stud.


Everyone and their mom is diamond and I heard there are some baddies in Master's that slipped through the cracks too.

I'd say C+ and up is pretty damn good in BW.

I think C is when you know what the hell you are doing.

SC2 ranks... *sigh* I don't even think they really count at the moment. Maybe "Grand Master's League" will show the true skill level of the top players. Then again we already know who are some of the top non Korean SC2 players are just by looking at GSL qualifiers or the TOP 200 list.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 28 2011 07:10 GMT
#32
Everyone starts out like that, don't take it too personally. It does take a lot of time and effort if you really want to improve though.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 28 2011 08:21 GMT
#33
I just lost a BW game labeled 1v1 D Fighting Spirit TvT

The guy had 210 APM at the end and 154 eAPM... FML

yes I lost
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
January 28 2011 08:40 GMT
#34
ah the fond memories of carrier rushing noobies
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
January 28 2011 13:17 GMT
#35
Thanks for all the responses. Yeah. I won't give up, and I really wasn't expecting to win, but at least to know where their base was and seeing inside would have been nice xD
What got me frutrated is that I didn't learn anything and that I panicked. I mean, the most valuable thing I learned is that 2 fu**ing carriers in your main will kill everything.

But yeah, I know I have a lot to learn and practice in order to really play SCBW, and I definetily will!
Thanks guys.
What's a quote anyway?
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 13:23:07
January 28 2011 13:21 GMT
#36
On January 28 2011 22:17 agarangu wrote:
Thanks for all the responses. Yeah. I won't give up, and I really wasn't expecting to win, but at least to know where their base was and seeing inside would have been nice xD
What got me frutrated is that I didn't learn anything and that I panicked. I mean, the most valuable thing I learned is that 2 fu**ing carriers in your main will kill everything.

But yeah, I know I have a lot to learn and practice in order to really play SCBW, and I definetily will!
Thanks guys.

By the way, if you're terran like your icon suggests, be aware the TvP is probably the hardest lowlevel matchup by quite a bit; you don't have too many gimmicky allins to fall back on and you have to be aware of every gimmicky protoss trick in the book (3gate speedzeal break, 2gate robo reaver, dt rush, bulldog, carrier rush, hidden 3rd, the list goes on)

edit: oh and before you protosses get on my back for calling some of these things gimmicky, I'd argue that any protoss at D or D- level is executing these things in an all-in way, cuz be honest, how many times have you seen a reavering or DTing D/D- protoss macro properly while their reaver or DT is out?
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Finskie
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden412 Posts
January 28 2011 13:27 GMT
#37
On January 28 2011 17:21 Silentness wrote:
I just lost a BW game labeled 1v1 D Fighting Spirit TvT

The guy had 210 APM at the end and 154 eAPM... FML

yes I lost


I have around 150 eAPM peaking 250+ at some points. Does that make me good? No i still suck dick cause after i've done the first 40 supply im so fucking lost i dont know what to do :p
Violet.
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 15:45:15
January 28 2011 15:44 GMT
#38
I know that I cheesed(DT rush) on my first iCCup game > PvP so fun
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
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