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Pitrocelli
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovakia127 Posts
January 21 2011 00:39 GMT
#1
My old identity:

Zerg player with about two thousand games, able to compete (and mostly loosing badly) in high level games. Several times in top 200 EU Blizzard, few weak local tournament victories and even less top 8 finishes in major tournaments (go4sc2 zotac..). Pretty much no-name player without team.

This is him ! http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2083_Pitro

Breaking point:

I am firm believer that Terran is strongest race with most options and yet i have to read that there are no talented zergs in EU, that Z failed to learn the game and all talented players started playing terran, that's why they win tournaments.

WRONG ! I am going to proove all of you marine cheesers WRONG!

I lost in KOTH tournament against terrans again .. in WB and in LB as well... after watching replay with 80 apm opponent making marine+siege combination and rolling me i realized .. i can do this as well.

I have been a longtime Blizzard believer but even i have lost my faith... i consider my old gods clueless .. after wandering for few days in chaos it is time to take drastic measures:

Infested Pitro is cleansed into Pitro-one of many soulless terrans

Goal:

Starting today i am going to switch race to terran. Objective is to win go4sc2/zotac/TLO or some comparable tournament with deadline set to 1.4.2011

Progress:
I am going to make stream and try to post major achievements and tournament results in this blog as well.

Failure:
If there is going to be some gamebreaking major balance patch sooner than 21.2. it is possible i will cancel this attempt.

**
Pitrocelli
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovakia127 Posts
January 21 2011 00:48 GMT
#2
Day 0: I tried few games as T on my friend's account against players from Czech and Slovak sc2 channel. I was able to beat master toss - once, but lost to platinum level protoss several games in a row. I am learning basic build orders from comented replays.
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
January 21 2011 00:50 GMT
#3
Good luck! Switching races can be hard.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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TheGreatWhiteHope_
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
January 21 2011 00:53 GMT
#4
Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

User was temp banned for this post.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
January 21 2011 00:53 GMT
#5
Hahaha ninja thread title change
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 00:59:41
January 21 2011 00:58 GMT
#6
Just don't do this. No matter what your results are, your "experiment" will be retarded.

Edit: If its just to switch races for fun, thats fine, I do it all the time. But if you're trying to conclude anything about balance then what I wrote originally stands true.
Pitrocelli
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovakia127 Posts
January 21 2011 00:59 GMT
#7
Day 1: Delevelling my account with about 50 leaves in a row allowed me to start training. Bye bye top 200, i lost about 500 points. Now i am getting opponets from high diamond and low master league.

After several games i got marine icon !

So far playing T feels really nice. Instead of thinking "I am dooomed, didn't i forget this .. this .. or this .. " i witnessed myself pretty confident with mental state "this map is mine!"

Every unit feels really strong. My biggest problem is TvP, i have no knowledge of toss army power during early minutes so i am often crushed by early agression.


Thanks Wolf
Starshaped
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden575 Posts
January 21 2011 01:00 GMT
#8
As a Zerg player who switched to Terran, I can objectively say that Terran is a lot harder than Zerg. It requires more micro and is a lot harder to macro late-game with, and in general harder to learn as it is quite a bit more complex a race. Zergs are notoriously whiny and I'm convinced you will realize how silly your state of mind regarding balance is in a short amount of time.

I get it, you're frustrated after a few losses, and "OMG IMBA" is a way to cope with it without having to look at your own faults, but please, this is silly. The grass is always greener on the other side etc. IMO just man up and L2P. Switch race if you want to, and doing so is fine, but you're clearly doing it for all the wrong reasons.


My Starcraft 2, gaming and e-sports-related blog: http://starshapedthoughts.blogspot.com/
Pitrocelli
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovakia127 Posts
January 21 2011 01:05 GMT
#9
Bibbit i believe i almost hit my peak as zerg player. Being able to take some games from top players but unable to beat them consistently. I missed stability with my results and believe it is becouse of race i used to play.

I trained .. a lot. So if with Terran my results will improve it will provide some information about status of game. If not and i will stay mediocre it will provide information as well.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 21 2011 01:05 GMT
#10
Good luck! Please document your progress thoroughly. I have favorited your blog in my browser.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
January 21 2011 01:08 GMT
#11
On January 21 2011 09:53 RiB wrote:
Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

User was temp banned for this post.

RiP, RiB

anyway onto actual content

in your TvP just build 2 barracks and do a push before orbital with half of your scvs
build orbital during push
sometimes they will hold this off
build 1-2 more rax
continue push
until toss is dead...this is actually devastatingly strong as the initial push will usually do some degree of damage and they will usually try to recover rather than just spam zealot sentry stalker like they should T.T

i feel like a traitor...but in the name of Terran's OP! i part this cheese to you
Starshaped
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden575 Posts
January 21 2011 01:10 GMT
#12
Wait, you expect more stability by switching to Terran from Zerg?

Really?
My Starcraft 2, gaming and e-sports-related blog: http://starshapedthoughts.blogspot.com/
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24747 Posts
January 21 2011 01:25 GMT
#13
On January 21 2011 10:05 Pitrocelli wrote:
I trained .. a lot. So if with Terran my results will improve it will provide some information about status of game. If not and i will stay mediocre it will provide information as well.

Exactly... it will provide some information about the status of the game. The problem is most people will exaggerate your 'results.'

If you are more successful with terran many will say "SEE, ZERG IS UP" which is far from proven.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Deltawolf
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States105 Posts
January 21 2011 01:26 GMT
#14
I'm glad to see you are experimenting with a different race and taking on learning the race seriously - but the OP was a little harsh :-p GL though!
* Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
January 21 2011 01:30 GMT
#15
I feel like if this guy wasn't known at all people would be raging at him all over the place in this blog because of the way it was presented.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
January 21 2011 01:36 GMT
#16
That doesn't really prove anything. I mean, it might prove that Terran's more suited to your style, but it won't be conclusive about balance of the races.
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 01:54:23
January 21 2011 01:50 GMT
#17
Good luck sir, we all know T is OP - even blizz knows it . But they wont fix it for a loooong time. It's not about balance, it's about profit.

. Gl hf!

Edit: sadly for me I love my immortals too much to change to Terran. And TvT is just sooo boooring.
TG Sambo... Intel classic! Life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
January 21 2011 01:51 GMT
#18
I actually did this for a while...

Back when the top ranks were around 2.5k diamond i got to around 1.8~k with terran

All it did though is make my PvT a lot better than it was lol
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
January 21 2011 02:02 GMT
#19
On January 21 2011 10:50 Qzy wrote:
Edit: sadly for me I love my immortals too much to change to Terran. And TvT is just sooo boooring.


I disagree, MarineKings vs NaDa was probably the greatest match in SC2 history.
@
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 02:05:43
January 21 2011 02:05 GMT
#20
I have a challenge for you. Play Terran against a fairly equally skilled Protoss or Zerg on the GSL test maps. If you don't consistently win, please change the OP to say "The current maps favor Terran."
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