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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
December 08 2010 21:41 GMT
#21
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24317665-Charter-saying-the-FBI-is-watching-what-a-friend-does-online

Here is some topic on some other forum with the exact same letter. Some guys saying they get like 3 of these every month from different providers. Just don't pay up and wait and see IMO.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 21:42:51
December 08 2010 21:41 GMT
#22
On December 09 2010 06:39 lastmotion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 06:37 travis wrote:
dude why does it matter if it's a scam or not? just don't respond to it


If it's not a scam, there is a chance I might get sued by them, isn't there?

I can't just say "I never check my e-mails" can I?



I don't see why you couldn't.

I do know that I wouldn't respond, though.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
December 08 2010 21:43 GMT
#23
I'd say ignore it, but I'd also advise you not to post evidence on the net.
Tetralix
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands65 Posts
December 08 2010 21:49 GMT
#24
Ignore them, unless and until you are dealing with legitimate Court documents (summons, subpoena). If you do not respond and submit your information to their website they will have to take you to Court, and that will take a lot of their time and money. You have to realize that this organisation is sending TONS of e-mails like this to people every day, and there is no way they can sue everyone that is not willing to settle this on that vague website, they rather get some fast bucks from people who are intimidated and pay up. Just don't download stuff from bit torrent for a while and see what happens after the deadline of 12 December.
if it weren't for electricity we'd all be playing Starcraft by candlelight.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 08 2010 21:54 GMT
#25
1. If you downloaded a torrent, then you have uploaded it as well. It uploads while you download it, unless you manually set it to not upload.

2. They can't legally sue you. In most countries, email is not considered an official form of communication. They have to send you a letter by mail in order to take any sort of legal action.

What I would do is reply to them asking for it to be sent by mail. If they do send it to you by mail, then you would probably have to pay the fine or w/e, but if it's a scam, they most likely won't send you mail since you are able to charge them for fraud.
lastmotion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
368 Posts
December 08 2010 21:54 GMT
#26
it's easy to say ignore it when you're not in my situation, but damn, I might fined in the thousands if they take action =/
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 21:57:03
December 08 2010 21:55 GMT
#27
I got one of these a while back. The first one is usually just your ISP re-informing you that they're not responsible for your slimey crimey ways. In my case it was for downloading a Grand Theft Auto game. Maybe 3 years ago? I'm not sure. In any case I was pretty upset at the time and purged everything and anything they I'd torrented from my computer (looooooot of music :C). I wasn't referred to a settlement website like yourself. It seems a bit more serious.

I'd recommend switching to a more secure torrent site. Or stopping. Don't pay the settlement fee. Wait it out, usually nothing comes of these (I asked around after mine). It doesn't make fiscal sense for them to actually pursue you.

Edit: If you're really worried about it try calling your ISP. They want to keep you as a customer, and it's not as if you calling will be a sign of absolute admission to them and they will cut you off. Odds are the customer service guy will be honest with you and tell you what's the best course of action/what usually happens in situations like these. Good luck
zzaaxxsscd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States626 Posts
December 08 2010 21:58 GMT
#28
it's probably legal.

ignore it and stop using bittorrent. they're not going to sue you for one minor infraction.

also, by posting here you're basically admitting to doing it, which you shouldn't be
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 08 2010 21:58 GMT
#29
On December 09 2010 06:54 lastmotion wrote:
it's easy to say ignore it when you're not in my situation, but damn, I might fined in the thousands if they take action =/


even if they brought a suit against you, it would still be in their best interest to settle. this is just a moneymaking scheme using intimidation. just don't worry about it, the odds anything would come of it are very slim
Catocalipse
Profile Joined December 2010
39 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 22:00:39
December 08 2010 21:58 GMT
#30
Ignore it, it's pretty much guaranteed to be a scam. No law firm in their right mind (or not, even) would contact you via email to address legal matters. How would they even know the email address was yours? It's just completely ridiculous. Moreover, the whole online settlement thing is so incredibly fishy.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 08 2010 21:59 GMT
#31
On December 09 2010 06:58 zzaaxxsscd wrote:
it's probably legal.

ignore it and stop using bittorrent. they're not going to sue you for one minor infraction.

also, by posting here you're basically admitting to doing it, which you shouldn't be


does that really matter? his posting here is private.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 22:04:18
December 08 2010 22:02 GMT
#32
here is a question

anywhere in this email, did it actually include your name/address ?

zzaaxxsscd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States626 Posts
December 08 2010 22:04 GMT
#33
On December 09 2010 06:59 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 06:58 zzaaxxsscd wrote:
it's probably legal.

ignore it and stop using bittorrent. they're not going to sue you for one minor infraction.

also, by posting here you're basically admitting to doing it, which you shouldn't be


does that really matter? his posting here is private.


well, it is a public forum, but yeah, realistically, nothing will come of it

the same thing happened to me 10 years ago at college w/bearshare and mp3s. I lost dorm internet access for a year and had to use dial-up AOL (so I'm speaking from experience)

check out http://www.myaccount.charter.com/customers/support.aspx?supportarticleid=1948
lastmotion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
368 Posts
December 08 2010 22:07 GMT
#34
On December 09 2010 07:02 travis wrote:
here is a question

anywhere in this email, did it actually include your name/address ?



no, they didn't. Do just e-mailed the e-mail that was attached to the Internet Provider Account that I signed up with. Do you think I could forward you my e-mail so you can look at the actual thing? I'm kinda scared right now =/

Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 22:24:04
December 08 2010 22:08 GMT
#35
I personally wouldn't respond to this as they have no ways to verify it's your e-mail adress and that you're actively using it. Pretty much anything official will be sent to you on paper, if they don't want to spend the money to send you a letter they don't want to spend the money going to court. I'm pretty sure this is a scam based on intimidation and buying of your sins.

Edit: check the link Travis posted, they can't even send you a letter since they don't really know who you are. The only thing they can get is your IP adress and the only one who knows who that IP adress belongs to is your Internet provider. Internet providers never compromise their clients identity though, so they forward the letters sent to them to you.

It's really a scare tactic, they don't have your name or e-mail-adress so as long as you don't contact them you're fine
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 08 2010 22:09 GMT
#36
On December 09 2010 07:07 lastmotion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 07:02 travis wrote:
here is a question

anywhere in this email, did it actually include your name/address ?



no, they didn't. Do just e-mailed the e-mail that was attached to the Internet Provider Account that I signed up with. Do you think I could forward you my e-mail so you can look at the actual thing? I'm kinda scared right now =/



you don't need to send me it

http://forums.phoenixlabs.org/printthread.php?tid=164

read the post by Aaron.Walkhouse

im sure he is correct in his assessment

don't worry about this bro. seriously nothing will come of it but in the extremely far-fetched chance it did im sure you would still be able to settle.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
December 08 2010 22:14 GMT
#37
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Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
December 08 2010 22:35 GMT
#38
Everythings gonna b k. ^^
Maybe next time just buy whatever u were torrenting or ninja it from some1 else via flash drive. Better safe then srry.
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 22:49:45
December 08 2010 22:41 GMT
#39
Seems fishy. Did you call the phone number, and if so, what is it?

Edit: I just called the number and went to the website it tells you to visit for more information. You should probably stop torrenting, lol.

At first I was wondering how the copyright holders would have gotten your info, but I think all they would have to do is download their material via torrent to see the ip addresses of the uploaders. They probably then contacted the ISP.
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
December 08 2010 22:42 GMT
#40
I've received legit cease and desist letters from Cox Communications via e-mail plenty of times, they shut off my internet until I call and promise not to offend the DMCA. I installed peer-guardian and they haven't contacted me in 3 years.
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