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On November 03 2010 19:12 imreker wrote:
Problem: Lack of sleep, irregular sleeping.
Solution: Evening jogging and a bottle of tasty beer before going to bed.
Benefits: If you won't sleep well after this, then you are officialy a zombie.
Drawbacks: You will probably feel like shit after waking up at morning, meh.
Evaluation: Try it.
Haha.
Running will work better for some people than others.
Also alcohol is not a long-term solution :p
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I can realte to this pretty well, had my share of sleeping problems on and off, mostly when i was depressed. Now I work and is no longer depressed and pretty hard-core about when to get to bed. Works okay. Biggest problem is my GF, when i am in bed or preparing for bed i do NOT want to discuss "important" things that we have to decide or think about. All i want to do is relax, she is the opposite, she loves to hit me with som heavy loaded topic just as i climb into bed.
Like "What if i am pregnant?", "I dont know what to do about my job", "I think we should get a pet, do you want cat or dog?", "Do you have everything planned for the party 3 months from now?", "I think you play to much on your computer instead of watching Paradise Hotel with me"...
I do "mental exercises" to get to sleep, and they basicly revolve around focusing away from RL-issues, for exemple i read a lot and is usually in the middle of some book so i play out scenarios with the characters and how i would have preferred things to go instead of how it was written. It relaxes me, makes me forget about IRL shit that stresses me.
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I feel you OP, been having the same for a few years.
Sometimes you go almost a week without sleeping othertimes you want to sleep the whole week.
Productivity ~0 %
I´m not on medication though, probably should be.
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Guaranteed long term computer use is the cause. When it's late the radiation from the monitor and long periods of less blinking/alertness keep you awake and stimulated when your body should be resting. Your tricking yourself to thinking it's day time. Try to stop using the computer 12-10 or so hours before you have to wake up for tomorrow, just lay around, maybe watch some bad movies from a tv thats not too big/close to brighten up the whole room etc.
Lately I've been having crazy sleep too, I think it's party because GSL, My gf wanting space/stressing me out, and the fact that I need to get my shit together and get reemployed.
Most of the time imho, depression, anxiety, etc. are overdiagnosed and treated. Sometimes all you really need, and you probably know it yourself, is that you need to get out and be proactive with your life instead of doing the same old routine you've grown accustomed to. You may hate that idea too, but at least just try new things all the time and mix it up or be forever bored/'depressed' and taking drugs that don't really help the problem, but mask it instead.
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go to selfmedication groups for cancer and other fucked up diseases. Develop a second, bad-ass personality that gets all the chicks laid, builds a revolutionary army of merciless adherents who beat each other up regularly, without even knowing it. Blackmail your boss to pay you without showing up at work by beating up yourself and making it look like as if he did it. Shoot your self in the head. Win.
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On November 03 2010 16:26 Lightswarm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 16:22 ulszz wrote:
i wouldn't take those drugs if i were you... but that's just me.
what i find works best to go to sleep is attempt to wake induce lucid dream. i always fail but it puts me right to sleep lol.
just lay there and don't move. seriously don't move at all and look into you eyelids eventually you will see images. watch these images like the awesome trip they are until you fall asleep. if you are still having trouble sleeping, luckily you haven't moved for 1 hour or so. so you don't feel very comfortable. now move into the most comfortable position you can maneuver into. what i find is after not moving my body is asleepish or something and it feels so damn good to change into some new position. doesn't that feel great? oh god it does this new position so primo. now repeat. i actually do this all the time. prob is that when im laying in bed, my mind just doesnt stop racing. its especially hard to achieve a state where my brain isnt thinking anything at all. surprisingly, if i put listen to something thats not music, i can sleep in under 30 min.
I'm a bit strange but I find listening to Korean commentators on BW extremely relaxing (I'm guessing it just distracts my brain though). If I am in bed while listening to it I fall asleep within 10 mins more often than not. I've tried movies/other TV shows but anything in english that I can understand keeps me awake. Korean BW is the secret sauce!
If you are having trouble getting to sleep, why not try a 45 minute TvT?
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On November 03 2010 15:58 Nokarot wrote:
I preface this post by saying that I've been seeing doctors and have tried a variety of over-the-counter and prescription sleep medication, but am simply looking for alternative ideas from you fine people.
I sleep very irregularly. Sometimes I sleep for 3 hours, other times for 14, and often times not at all.
The doctor says much of this has to do with clinical depression, but I'm on my third trial medication, and that stuff takes of weening on/off doses to see if they work. First it was Paxil, then it was Prozac and now it's Effexor, all of which have drowsiness as a side effect but don't seem to make me tired.
I've tried the old tricks- Read a book in a different room for 30 minutes, run a few laps around your house, take a warm shower, drink a glass of milk, etc. They work on rare occasion, but when I discover I'm still awake at 2am and have to wake up at 5, it's almost not worth trying to sleep anyway.
I'm open to any ideas. Usually I just get Starbucks in the morning if I've encountered a sleepless night, but you can imagine that may be an expensive alternative (and maybe screwing my sleep up even more.) I'm not pulling my hair out or anything, thankfully- I can operate pretty well when I'm tired- I just wish it wasn't so.
I can tell you now that reading a book is not going to help you sleep. If you want to sleep you need to do something that makes your brain work less, not more. Working out is good, though you should do that 1-2 hours BEFORE you want to sleep, because by that time your body will begin to slow down since your adrenaline and blood flow have slowed so much. A warm shower might help, it depends on the ambient temperature of where you live. Glass of milk I have never heard of personally. When do you take your meds and in what dose? Also, I hope you dont drink while you take those, since that may be the reason you can't sleep.
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Ironic I see this blog entry. I always had a random sleep pattern, but a few days ago it got really bad: I wake up after 2..3 hours of sleep, and can't fall asleep for quite a long time. Today I slept 3+2+1 hours, and quite obviously, I'm way more of a zombie than if I slept 6.
Anyway, when I was biking for ~2 hours a day, I had no problem falling asleep. Also, reading a calculus textbook can help before sleeping. Don't take it seriously though, when I was studying for my Calculus 3 finals, it worked quite bad, I was watching the ceiling for 8 hours straight without falling asleep.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 03 2010 20:45 polarwolf wrote:
go to selfmedication groups for cancer and other fucked up diseases. Develop a second, bad-ass personality that gets all the chicks laid, builds a revolutionary army of merciless adherents who beat each other up regularly, without even knowing it. Blackmail your boss to pay you without showing up at work by beating up yourself and making it look like as if he did it. Shoot your self in the head. Win. Hahahaha nice man! Do this! Thoguh, do you need to hug with a fat guy with bitchtits as well?
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Lie in bed while watching a boring movie on your laptop beside your bed, it should work!
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Just a bit of an aside for those suggesting illicit drug use: MAOIs and SSRIs are known to have strong and, in some cases, very dangerous interactions with other psychoactive compounds. The interactions with the cannabinoids in weed may not be particularly dangerous or problematic (i do not know specifically), but if you are on any sort of antidepressant, it would be a good idea to forgo use of other psychoactives until you have talked to a doctor about potential interactions.
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work out more, preferably more than 2 hours before you sleep. If you workout too late / too close to your sleep time, you are more likely to stay awake. But say you want to sleep at midnight, do a hard workout at 8pm/830pm. finish around 9:30/10.
eat regularly and eat more healthily. drink a lot of water during the day.
also, don't take naps during the day.
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Personal recommendation is weed and masturbating, lol.
Insomnia sucks though, t.t; Best of luck
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Do you work out at all or taken up a job where you've been "stimulated" physically?
It is well known in the bodybuilding community (or even people who just started doing extreme physical work for health issues or for work), that heavy stress on the physical body can actually cause something in your brain to be irregular and make you sleepless.
Well I'm not sure if it's in the brain, but it's somewhere.. lol.
I was reading articles on it and tests were done by American universities so it's not just some exercise myth. I can provide links if you want but to be honest, I'm pretty lazy right now.
Anyway;
Most people think that after working out hard, you'll get tired and fall asleep. But once you go pass a certain point and too much stress on the body depending on your fitness can have a negative effect and although you're being healthy; it's releasing or messing up some chemical in your body/brain that helps regulate sleep. So people who have been up early; eating healthy and working out hard might not be able to sleep at night. Getting maybe only 1... or 2 hours...
It's really frustrating; It happened to me. That's why I've been pushing back working out. It was causing more harm than good. Taking away my sleep. Making me depressed and frustrated.
Once I stopped working out too hard; I slept like a fucking baby.
EDIT* Check spoiler for remedy
+ Show Spoiler +I heard smoking a couple of joints really work. Better than sleeping pills.
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medical marijuana with a high indica percentage, a kush or something like it. you'll be set.
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Wow man didn't know your sleeping problem was this deep ;o ill punch the guy that snored in the room the next time i see him ;D
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At school so I don't have time to read and reply to everything, but I thank everyone for their ideas. I feel like some of you guys are messing with me (computer causing eye radiation? cmon now) but I appreciate the ideas nonetheless.
On November 03 2010 21:02 vek wrote:If you are having trouble getting to sleep, why not try a 45 minute TvT?
Ha. A lot of the ideas people have been offering me haven't sounded really plausible for me, but this one rings true. SC1 TvT might work. SC2 TvTs kind of excite me.
On November 04 2010 01:31 Haemonculus wrote:
Personal recommendation is weed and masturbating, lol.
Insomnia sucks though, t.t; Best of luck
I've never smoked weed, but it seems like mixing those two might be hard? Anyways, hot.
On November 04 2010 03:24 wonkman wrote:
Wow man didn't know your sleeping problem was this deep ;o ill punch the guy that snored in the room the next time i see him ;D
Yeah man, I told you. Stared at the ceiling for 3 hours that night, went to the hotel lobby and read an entire 400 page book before coming back up to the room to steal 2 hours of sleep before breakfast and going back to MLG. That was a rough night o.o
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...personally I have a bad sleep pattern cause I've been staying up to watch the GSL live > _ ~''
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On November 04 2010 04:19 Nokarot wrote:
At school so I don't have time to read and reply to everything, but I thank everyone for their ideas. I feel like some of you guys are messing with me (computer causing eye radiation? cmon now) but I appreciate the ideas nonetheless.
He just meant the light from the monitor keeping you awake... visible light is technically radiation.
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On November 04 2010 04:44 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 04:19 Nokarot wrote:
At school so I don't have time to read and reply to everything, but I thank everyone for their ideas. I feel like some of you guys are messing with me (computer causing eye radiation? cmon now) but I appreciate the ideas nonetheless. He just meant the light from the monitor keeping you awake... visible light is technically radiation.
Technically, yes, but it's certainly not a cause for [my] sleep deprivation. Not to say I shouldn't maybe spend some time away from the computer more often, but there are nights (occasionally) where I absolutely pass out after a 10 hour session online or something.
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Yea sorry about my post, i must have been really tired.
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