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Terran is going to win GSL1 (ez) T>Z

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Galois
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 03:29:20
October 26 2010 02:14 GMT
#1
"How do you respond to TvZ being previously heavily Terran favored and a Zerg winning season 1?"

-chill


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This is going to be the easiest prediction ever, as well as slight rant.

A Terran is going to win GSL season 1. Any idiot can see this. This last patch made it impossible for top level Zergs to beat top level Terrans once the game goes anywhere near late game. MULEs simply kill you. Just like beta...

Reading the SC2 boards make me cringe though, because there are still posters posting, "omg that Terran played so amazing!" or, "omg now Zergs need to learn how to play....ha!" t/n: because in the past, Terrans hardly ever made it to tournament quarterfinals — ask anyone who followed zotac during the beta or read TL when word spread that Korean Zergs were more developed and adapted to the game than anyone else

Do these people not see that Terrans are doing literally nothing different from last patch and now are raping the face of every Zerg they come across t/n: with reapers. And they're doing it with ease.

Terrans right now are secretly smiling and trying to play off the "our race is so weak " card t/n: see the first note above even when they know their race is now the strongest. I find it absolutely hilarious how biased Terran players are and how their perception of game balance is horribly off to how the game actually is.

And I doubt top level P's are having much easier of a time versus T that Z's are. PvT is probably balanced now, considering Protoss had such a huge advantage in the last patch, but now it's about even I'd think.

TvZ though...lol blizzard. Every TvZ the Terran gets their expo for free, with not even the THREAT of losing it t/n: because the Zergs are afraid of hellion and reaper harrass. That threat was so very important in the patch b4 this (where Terrans were already beginning to rape Zergs - but they pretended otherwise).

Zerg has been massively overnerfed. It basically started with the Roach nerf. Instead of buffing Terran up to Zerg's level, Roach were nerfed (also making them utterly garbage in ZvP killing off lings and hydras entirely).

The 1->2 roach supply change, plus the neural parasite and hydralisk t/n: from bw changes now leaves Terran so comfortable, they're often 20 MULEs ahead in any and every TvZ you or I will ever play.

And Roaches...have been effectively removed from the game.

I cannot see any race other than a Terran like Clide or HopeTorture winning GSL1. This is not a matter of "just play better and recognize your mistakes." (t/n: "i shouldn't have to be a pro to beat a god-damn build!") Terran is right now the strongest race (again) t/n: reference to the days of the terran bonjwa and I predict a TvT finals, with Clide versus HopeTorture. t/n: because it was all T and 1 Z from the semifinals onward~

Or it could be any other two Terrans in the finals. Assuming somehow it is not a TvT final and some protoss or zerg gimmicks their way to the finals, if the final is TvZ, Terran absolutely is the winner of GSL1. t/n: LOLOLOL

If it's a PvZ in the finals, it is a toss-up. And at this point in time, predicting a ZvP finals is laughable.

The others simply stand no chance.

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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
October 26 2010 02:16 GMT
#2
LOL is the spoiler picture really needed.

yeah, I guess it is..
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 26 2010 03:15 GMT
#3
To be honest.....this wasn't as funny as I thought it'd be.
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NevilleS
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada266 Posts
October 26 2010 03:23 GMT
#4
Yeah, the premise was alright, but the constant qualifiers that need to be added to make it sound even remotely plausible made this flop
Galois
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States124 Posts
October 26 2010 03:32 GMT
#5
On October 26 2010 12:23 NevilleS wrote:
Yeah, the premise was alright, but the constant qualifiers that need to be added to make it sound even remotely plausible made this flop

wikiality at its finest~
It's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you / There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do
SanBia
Profile Joined August 2010
47 Posts
October 26 2010 03:51 GMT
#6
Oh look, Zerg won! :D
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
October 26 2010 04:02 GMT
#7
??? what is this?
aka myheronoob
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
October 26 2010 05:14 GMT
#8
hahaha

awesome response
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 05:24:07
October 26 2010 05:21 GMT
#9
Can someone explain this? Is it meant to be a joke? what does t/n mean?

edit; I guess you have to read the other thread first lol.
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
October 26 2010 06:19 GMT
#10
terrans op zergs op
you are perfect porcelain.
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