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ToT)MidiaN(
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
October 20 2010 22:01 GMT
#41
I voted no.
Nothing worth doing is devoid of risk
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
October 20 2010 22:05 GMT
#42
On October 21 2010 06:52 iSiN wrote:
LOL BLACKMAN OVER MIDIAN!? stop trolling please. F91 is a solid addition to the discussion but im not fond of his style

Yes, I also find getting third place at WCG behind boxer and yellow, and KOing oddysay in the process, to be laughable. You aren't interested in a real discussion, so we'll leave it there.
TS-Rupbar
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Sweden1089 Posts
October 20 2010 22:06 GMT
#43
On October 21 2010 06:44 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 05:52 Drowsy wrote:
On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:
On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote:
Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much)

What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking.



He smoked progamers like Jangbi and Dove in straight up macro games while practicing like 1/4th as much as they did. Definitely one of the best, if not the best, western zergs. His play was just super solid and mechanical, kind of a Savior jr. He was also a super cool dude and was a regular poster on the strategy forum for a while. But alas, poker, WoW, and some chubby Korean lady stole him away from teamliquid.

I'm not sure why you threw in all the stuff about him as a person, but none of it has any bearing on the topic at hand.

There is no objective way to do a ranking like this, but as someone who has seen every good non-Korean zerg play since about 2001, I definitely wouldn't put him second or anywhere in the top 5. In my opinion, achievements must be factored in, and other than WCG UK I can't remember him winning anything worth mentioning. Aside from mondi, ret and sen, guys like testie (all his races rank in the top 10 among non-Koreans), blackman, tomson and f91 should be considered. Everyone can agree that midian was an extremely good player, but second greatest non-Korean zerg ever is a little much.


I agree. Everyone just romanticizes oldschool players. With Swedish bias, I would put HayprO above MidiaN as well. I never remembered MidiaN winning anything either. He was insanely good, but second best non-Korean zerg is just really weird when SEn, Testie, Pj and F91 were arguably the best non-Korean player at one point in time regardless of race. I don't think anyone ever argued that was the case for MidiaN.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 20 2010 22:14 GMT
#44
On October 21 2010 07:01 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
I voted no.


This isn't about you.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
ToT)MidiaN(
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
October 20 2010 22:17 GMT
#45
Nothing worth doing is devoid of risk
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 22:32:29
October 20 2010 22:19 GMT
#46
On October 21 2010 06:44 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 05:52 Drowsy wrote:
On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:
On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote:
Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much)

What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking.



He smoked progamers like Jangbi and Dove in straight up macro games while practicing like 1/4th as much as they did. Definitely one of the best, if not the best, western zergs. His play was just super solid and mechanical, kind of a Savior jr. He was also a super cool dude and was a regular poster on the strategy forum for a while. But alas, poker, WoW, and some chubby Korean lady stole him away from teamliquid.

I'm not sure why you threw in all the stuff about him as a person, but none of it has any bearing on the topic at hand.

There is no objective way to do a ranking like this, but as someone who has seen every good non-Korean zerg play since about 2001, I definitely wouldn't put him second or anywhere in the top 5. In my opinion, achievements must be factored in, and other than WCG UK I can't remember him winning anything worth mentioning. Aside from mondi, ret and sen, guys like testie (all his races rank in the top 10 among non-Koreans), blackman, tomson and f91 should be considered. Everyone can agree that midian was an extremely good player, but second greatest non-Korean zerg ever is a little much.


Well... F91 was almost definitely better, but the others I'd have to disagree, just judging from the way he played in games vs Yubi, Jangbi, and In_Dove.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
October 20 2010 22:20 GMT
#47
On October 21 2010 07:14 Piy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 07:01 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
I voted no.


This isn't about you.

Ya we dont care what you want. You are going to have you put these sc2 noobs in their place
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
leviathan400
Profile Joined November 2006
United Kingdom393 Posts
October 20 2010 22:27 GMT
#48
Be good to see more UK SC2 pros
:o
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 20 2010 22:31 GMT
#49
randomly beat people like idra and koreans and seems lazy as hell with practice, he could be really good :D
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
October 21 2010 06:30 GMT
#50
Who's the chubby Korean lady who stole him away? >.>
Follow me on Twitter for pictures of cute gamers and food! https://twitter.com/lilsusie
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 21 2010 06:32 GMT
#51
hi midian, miss me?
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 21 2010 06:48 GMT
#52
On October 21 2010 07:01 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
I voted no.

Stop being so selfish. Stop thinking about yourself and think about the community for once! JKJK Midian is the best!!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 21 2010 07:01 GMT
#53
On October 21 2010 15:30 lilsusie wrote:
Who's the chubby Korean lady who stole him away? >.>


You are not chubby
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28731 Posts
October 21 2010 07:14 GMT
#54
he was the first nonkorean zerg who learned how to muta harass!
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 21 2010 07:43 GMT
#55
midian is awesome
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
October 21 2010 07:50 GMT
#56
midian vs indove reps were amazing
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 08:09:04
October 21 2010 08:08 GMT
#57
On October 21 2010 06:37 mOnion wrote:
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On October 21 2010 05:52 redtooth wrote:
who is this midian guy? wasn't he like a boyfriend of a TL staffer or something? sorry never heard of him.


he's dating susie. I know this because I stalk him day and night, not because I have a shallow knowledge of TL history.

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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
October 21 2010 09:23 GMT
#58
On October 21 2010 06:37 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 05:52 redtooth wrote:
who is this midian guy? wasn't he like a boyfriend of a TL staffer or something? sorry never heard of him.


he's dating susie. I know this because I stalk her day and night, not because I have a shallow knowledge of TL history.


where's my card.
Follow me on Twitter for pictures of cute gamers and food! https://twitter.com/lilsusie
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 21 2010 09:42 GMT
#59
Susie doesn't date.

She allows men to spend time with her and bask in her light. Once upon a time I spent time with Susie in person.

I haven't been able to appreciate anything since then.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
October 21 2010 09:53 GMT
#60
On October 21 2010 18:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Susie doesn't date.

She allows men to spend time with her and bask in her light. Once upon a time I spent time with Susie in person.

I haven't been able to appreciate anything since then.

It's funny because I felt the same way about Jamie the first time I saw a simple picture of his boyish face.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
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