• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:13
CEST 02:13
KST 09:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed15Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed Who will win EWC 2025? RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Server Blocker
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Soulkey Muta Micro Map? [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches CSL Xiamen International Invitational
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread We are Ready to Testify: Emergence Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 605 users

[Poll] ToT)MidiaN( - Page 2

Blogs > iSiN
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
October 20 2010 19:42 GMT
#21
On October 21 2010 04:26 DrywMz wrote:
Have to show support for my favorite Australian :3


oh you
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
October 20 2010 19:42 GMT
#22
I think I know who midian is! Why wouldn't we want to see him playing some sc2? :D

On October 21 2010 04:21 jtbem wrote:
yo imping! lolol do it up! go pro


lol... fun times
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 19:44:40
October 20 2010 19:42 GMT
#23
On October 21 2010 04:42 Monokeros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 04:26 DrywMz wrote:
Have to show support for my favorite Australian :3


oh you


they kinda sound the same.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
October 20 2010 19:50 GMT
#24
On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote:
Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much)

What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 20 2010 19:52 GMT
#25
Ah, this is the TL I know, almost no poster with less than 1000 posts, almost brings a tear to my eye.

YES, Midian should return!!!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 20 2010 20:07 GMT
#26
On October 21 2010 03:53 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote:
Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much)

Are u counting Sen as a korean u racist?:X
And imo Day was the 3rd best zerg.


I dunno man. Midian used to be very good. Before my time actually, but I remember that time in late 2007 when he came back from inactivity to smurf Nony when he was practicing for WCG.

People used to make strat forum threads here where they'd ask a zerg question and just go ahead and include his name in the title as well :p
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
October 20 2010 20:19 GMT
#27
On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote:
Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much)

What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking.


He was before the time of a lot of the other top non korean zergs mentioned in this thread.Any reps you've seen of him from past like.. 07 i'd say was of him playing 2-3 games then logging off for like a year. I remember he was in dream.t) though ages ago and i had soooo many reps of him against pro's/semi pro's playing really gg's with them. I know I may be a bit biased cause he's my favourite non korean player easilyy, but he really was a beast back then.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
October 20 2010 20:27 GMT
#28
On October 21 2010 05:19 Pads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:
On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote:
Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much)

What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking.


He was before the time of a lot of the other top non korean zergs mentioned in this thread.

No, not really. Every zerg mentioned in this thread (mondi, ret, sen) was already a top tier non-Korean before midian was really known.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
October 20 2010 20:31 GMT
#29
With a face like his you never have to be good.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
October 20 2010 20:36 GMT
#30
One of his many great moments that I remember, playing Sea[Shield] under the id "WasteofTime"(something in that ballpark) on TL.Net attack.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 20 2010 20:47 GMT
#31
Seeing old BW players come back to SC2 is always nice, even if I'm pretty much indifferent to him.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
October 20 2010 20:51 GMT
#32
For me midian is second for many reasons while you may argue ret and sen posted better results etc ret didnt play zvz for the longest time. Then for me its personal preference between sen and midian.
Mondi midian ret then sen is probably my personal rankings for foreign zergs through the years
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 20:55:34
October 20 2010 20:52 GMT
#33
On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote:
Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much)

What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking.



He smoked progamers like Jangbi and Dove in straight up macro games while practicing like 1/4th as much as they did. Definitely one of the best, if not the best, western zergs. His play was just super solid and mechanical, kind of a Savior jr. He was also a super cool dude and was a regular poster on the strategy forum for a while. But alas, poker, WoW, and some chubby Korean lady stole him away from teamliquid.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
October 20 2010 20:52 GMT
#34
who is this midian guy? wasn't he like a boyfriend of a TL staffer or something? sorry never heard of him.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
October 20 2010 21:07 GMT
#35
Midian was my favorite zerg after mondi. Glad to see him back. Funny thing was when I met him a month ago he said he wasn't going to play sc2 lol
the courage to be a lazy bum
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
October 20 2010 21:16 GMT
#36
MIDIIIIIIIAN
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
October 20 2010 21:28 GMT
#37
I don't even see him on msn much anymore, I miss that dude.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
October 20 2010 21:37 GMT
#38
On October 21 2010 05:52 redtooth wrote:
who is this midian guy? wasn't he like a boyfriend of a TL staffer or something? sorry never heard of him.


he's dating susie. I know this because I stalk her day and night, not because I have a shallow knowledge of TL history.
☆★☆ 7486!!! Join the Ban mOnion Anti-Trolling Initiative! - Caller | "on a scale of machine to 10, how bad is that Zerg?" - LZgamer | you are the new tl.net bonjwa monion, congrats - Rekrul | "Cheeseburgers dynamite lilacs" - Chill
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 21:45:49
October 20 2010 21:44 GMT
#39
On October 21 2010 05:52 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:
On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote:
Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much)

What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking.



He smoked progamers like Jangbi and Dove in straight up macro games while practicing like 1/4th as much as they did. Definitely one of the best, if not the best, western zergs. His play was just super solid and mechanical, kind of a Savior jr. He was also a super cool dude and was a regular poster on the strategy forum for a while. But alas, poker, WoW, and some chubby Korean lady stole him away from teamliquid.

I'm not sure why you threw in all the stuff about him as a person, but none of it has any bearing on the topic at hand.

There is no objective way to do a ranking like this, but as someone who has seen every good non-Korean zerg play since about 2001, I definitely wouldn't put him second or anywhere in the top 5. In my opinion, achievements must be factored in, and other than WCG UK I can't remember him winning anything worth mentioning. Aside from mondi, ret and sen, guys like testie (all his races rank in the top 10 among non-Koreans), blackman, tomson and f91 should be considered. Everyone can agree that midian was an extremely good player, but second greatest non-Korean zerg ever is a little much.
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
October 20 2010 21:52 GMT
#40
LOL BLACKMAN OVER MIDIAN!? stop trolling please. F91 is a solid addition to the discussion but im not fond of his style
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 47m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JuggernautJason187
Livibee 70
CosmosSc2 66
Dota 2
monkeys_forever1014
NeuroSwarm134
canceldota57
League of Legends
Grubby4570
Trikslyr74
Counter-Strike
oskar260
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe111
Other Games
tarik_tv23701
summit1g15281
shahzam603
C9.Mang0199
ViBE168
Skadoodle149
PPMD37
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1865
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 65
• RyuSc2 48
• davetesta34
• sitaska34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21497
League of Legends
• TFBlade195
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
9h 47m
Epic.LAN
11h 47m
CSO Contender
16h 47m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 9h
Online Event
1d 15h
Esports World Cup
3 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
4 days
Esports World Cup
5 days
Esports World Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
Championship of Russia 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.