So the guy submitted the assignment to the teacher and I got a 72 on it along with my group, all because that member changed our right answers to wrong ones without my consent.
FML





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							JustQuitWarcraftIII
							
							
						 
						United States679 Posts
						 So the guy submitted the assignment to the teacher and I got a 72 on it along with my group, all because that member changed our right answers to wrong ones without my consent. FML      | ||
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						Denmark4782 Posts
						  But I feel bad for you tbh - depending on how well you know your teacher you could perhaps try to explain the situation (showing him/her when the file was last changed and what was changed). I would only go through this hassle if the assignment really matters in the end though... | ||
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							nekuodah
							
							
						 
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							Rotodyne
							
							
						 
						United States2263 Posts
						 I know this because I am one of the retarded lazy partners. | ||
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							Sufficiency
							
							
						 
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							SiegeMode
							
							
						 
						United States206 Posts
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							Roe
							
							
						 
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							Sufficiency
							
							
						 
						Canada23833 Posts
						 On October 20 2010 09:11 Roe wrote: is it common in college to do group work? I haven't done any yet, I'm in first year Psyc I'd say uncommon. I only had to do group work once... | ||
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							micronesia
							
							
						 
						United States24724 Posts
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							jamesr12
							
							
						 
						United States1549 Posts
						 1) one person or a smaller subgroup does all the work and other members get the same grade while do nothing or almost nothing (~80% of groups) 2) People are forced to submit responses they dont actually agree with and deal with the grade (~19% of groups) 3) you actually have a good group (~ 1% of groups) ***note: I made these numbers up, you get my point*** | ||
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							TOloseGT
							
							
						 
						United States1145 Posts
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							kzn
							
							
						 
						United States1218 Posts
						 On October 20 2010 09:16 jamesr12 wrote: group work is the worst thing ever there are three possible situations: 1) one person or a smaller subgroup does all the work and other members get the same grade while do nothing or almost nothing (~80% of groups) 2) People are forced to submit responses they dont actually agree with and deal with the grade (~19% of groups) 3) you actually have a good group (~ 1% of groups) ***note: I made these numbers up, you get my point*** There is a 4th option: Pretend you're in a group and do 4x the amount of work you're supposed to have done, but you don't have to interact with anyone. Fuck yes socially awkward. | ||
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							Hikko
							
							
						 
						United States1126 Posts
						 On October 20 2010 09:27 kzn wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2010 09:16 jamesr12 wrote: group work is the worst thing ever there are three possible situations: 1) one person or a smaller subgroup does all the work and other members get the same grade while do nothing or almost nothing (~80% of groups) 2) People are forced to submit responses they dont actually agree with and deal with the grade (~19% of groups) 3) you actually have a good group (~ 1% of groups) ***note: I made these numbers up, you get my point*** There is a 4th option: Pretend you're in a group and do 4x the amount of work you're supposed to have done, but you don't have to interact with anyone. Fuck yes socially awkward. I'm not socially awkward, but I usually just tell people that I'm doing the project and they can get credit off of me. After the first project (if there are that many) I've usually found people that are at least nice to talk to or able to BS a presentation when they did nothing on it themselves. I find it more fun doing it all myself, probably because I'm crazy :X I have helped some people out that were totally lost as to what to do, and would otherwise have failed the class even though they try very hard. Call it unfair to me, I find it satisfying and fun. | ||
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							Logo
							
							
						 
						United States7542 Posts
						 On October 20 2010 09:07 SiegeMode wrote: Group work is stupid. When I was in college I never let my partners touch group projects. I'd pretend to listen to their input to let them feel useful but there's no way I was letting some random dumbass mess up my grades. Group work potentially is some of the most important stuff you can learn to do in College to be honest. Almost no one is a company of one post-college. Sure it depends on your major a bit, but don't just write it off. At the same time there's some problems with college group work. Maybe someone is flunking or acing tests so they're not as motivated to do well on the assignment or they think they can get you to do it for them. Group assignments work best when you have stuff like partially asymmetrical work so each person can show their knowledge with some independent contribution while also being graded on a teamwork portion of the assignment. One of my most valuable lessons in College was a Software design class where we were broken out into separate groups (3-4 people per group) and assigned different parts of a larger piece of software to write with several groups implementing the same components. The idea was each small team would implement a component of the software then have to work with other teams to use their software to create a finished product. The idea is you are graded on your small team's individual piece of the software while also having part of the grade rely on how well you can communicate and coordinate with the other teams that may or may not be using your pieces in return. That was probably the closest I came to having a class that properly emulated what is was like to work at a software company. Now granted this was group work with more group work mixed in, but it still worked really well. There was plenty of time to go to the teacher if your teammates were lazy (long term assignment) and software development is a bit different than just coming up with the right answers. For example a similar class I had our final project didn't do what it was supposed to, but we still got a B/B+ because we made a good case to the teacher about our design (which was solid) and how well we understood why it didn't work at the moment. Anyways more OT, your group mate sucks, like others said if it's important talk to the teacher. At the same time it's kinda icky because if she only believes part of your story she'll just walk away with thinking that your group cheated. | ||
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							crazeman
							
							
						 
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						 One of my most valuable lessons in College was a Software design class where we were broken out into separate groups (3-4 people per group) and assigned different parts of a larger piece of software to write with several groups implementing the same components. The idea was each small team would implement a component of the software then have to work with other teams to use their software to create a finished product. The idea is you are graded on your small team's individual piece of the software while also having part of the grade rely on how well you can communicate and coordinate with the other teams that may or may not be using your pieces in return. That was probably the closest I came to having a class that properly emulated what is was like to work at a software company. This. I REALLY wish my school incorporated more group work for my CS classes. Most of the assignments were just stuff that you do on your own. When I code on my own, I write the shitiest and least flexible code ever and professors usually just ran your program rather than look at your code so I easily scraped by because my program worked... (but if I have to make the slightest changes/additions I'm fucked and I'm better off starting the program from scratch). I think I only had like one or two group programming assignments in my 4 years at college. Both of them ended pretty badly (IE usually the smart kid did everything) but even though it was fail, learning how to legitimately code in a group environment is probably more useful then most of the other crap they teach in CS. | ||
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							inkblot
							
							
						 
						United States1250 Posts
						 For most group assignments I don't mind doing the majority of the work myself, as I get most of my learning done on homework. Giving away my work is definitely the low point of my experience with groups though. | ||
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							Cambium
							
							
						 
						United States16368 Posts
						 At the moment, I'm having a great time working with this guy from Tsinghua University for my distributed course. I feel we really understand each other, and don't waste too much time explaining our ideas. Teamwork is just that much better when things can be done tacitly. All in all, group work is awesome, and I enjoy it. | ||
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							AppleTart
							
							
						 
						United States1261 Posts
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							Jonoman92
							
							
						 
						United States9104 Posts
						 Just had an oral spanish presentation today with 2 other group mates and it went great though luckily enough. | ||
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							Lumire
							
							
						 
						United States607 Posts
						  I'm one of those people who will just do 90% of the work. Easier to do all the work yourself then to spend x2 the effort trying to motivate lazy teammates who think they don't need to do any of the work, and you can make sure shit like what happened to you won't happen. | ||
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