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I am long-time community contributor and moderator for a large company in the Philippines, and I've been reading posts by people there recently. I now realize that the company is "damaged goods" on one level, but I am also ticked off that since there is already that existing image, that they can act like absolute dumb asses.
I've noticed that post quality has degraded abysmally since I started there around half a decade ago. Luckily, nobody knows or has the gall to turn it into a 4chan clone. *oh the horror*
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.
Now to my question: How do you convert these people from being completely retarded posters who flame each other about lack of fairness at every opportunity to at least be semi constructive people? I cannot be there 24/7, and I have nearly no back-up on enforcement.
I hate being stuck in this, but I love laying the banhammer on an idiot. It's the best form of destressing.
 
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Zurich15366 Posts
On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.
I am sorry what?
You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators.
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Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
Lead by example is one of the best methods. Why don't you post a long, well-thought out post about the subject. And make a couple "examples" from the first few people who don't get how serious to take the subject. It helps if one of them is a long time member. 
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Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.
I am sorry what? You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators.
Silly Germans don't read the whole post... 
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You aren't giving much information to work with. This is a company forum so why not change company policy to punish people for misbehaving?
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On September 29 2010 17:37 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.
I am sorry what? You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators. Silly Germans don't read the whole post...
not to mention he hasn't been a part of tl for more than a year haha.
as for subject, ETT hits it home pretty well.
maybe the rules need revision? and an update.
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On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.
I am sorry what? You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators.
I wanted to report this person saying that this user generally doesn't read the threads before he responds but the report function was disabled for this users account.
What do I do in that case?
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On September 29 2010 18:20 MYM.Testie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.
I am sorry what? You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators. I wanted to report this person saying that this user generally doesn't read the threads before he responds but the report function was disabled for this users account. What do I do in that case?
you can stop being such a huge penis u hacker
User was banned for this post.
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Totally works on this guys posts though.
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Zurich15366 Posts
On September 29 2010 17:37 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.
I am sorry what? You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators. Silly Germans don't read the whole post...
Sigh.... I I came here right after reading that Hathor blog and just assumed people on the internet are stupid.
Sorry OP, my bad. Note to self: Don't operate heavy machinery or TL when sleep deprived.
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Not reading, Zatic leads by example 
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hahaha Zatic.
A few years from now, I bet this blog will STILL come back to haunt you. XD
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The reason why there are trolls have been addressed by penny arcade a few years ago:
![[image loading]](http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215499488_8pSZr-L-2.jpg)
There will always be trolls 
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On September 29 2010 20:20 Excludos wrote:The reason why there are trolls have been addressed by penny arcade a few years ago: There will always be trolls Isn't the obvious solution to make people post on official game forums under their real names? I think most people would gladly trade their internet anonymity for the eradication of trolls.
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On September 29 2010 21:20 Yotta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 20:20 Excludos wrote:The reason why there are trolls have been addressed by penny arcade a few years ago: There will always be trolls Isn't the obvious solution to make people post on official game forums under their real names? I think most people would gladly trade their internet anonymity for the eradication of trolls.
We can spin it off, kind of give it a catchy name...IRL Name? Real Name?
*snaps fingers*
REAL ID! It's brilliant! A clever use of "Real Name" and "Posting ID"
PERFECT!
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On September 29 2010 21:26 Torenhire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 21:20 Yotta wrote:On September 29 2010 20:20 Excludos wrote:The reason why there are trolls have been addressed by penny arcade a few years ago: There will always be trolls Isn't the obvious solution to make people post on official game forums under their real names? I think most people would gladly trade their internet anonymity for the eradication of trolls. We can spin it off, kind of give it a catchy name...IRL Name? Real Name? *snaps fingers* REAL ID! It's brilliant! A clever use of "Real Name" and "Posting ID" PERFECT!
Or we just permban morons...
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On September 29 2010 18:50 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 17:37 EvilTeletubby wrote:On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.
I am sorry what? You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators. Silly Germans don't read the whole post... Sigh.... I I came here right after reading that Hathor blog and just assumed people on the internet are stupid. Sorry OP, my bad. Note to self: Don't operate heavy machinery or TL when sleep deprived.
I am SOOO quoting this.  And I do PM someone with a red icon when I see bad stuff.
ETT/Frozen:
The company is in essence outsourcing its community moderation to a small group of people they can trust since they're swamped with work internally. I'm under an NDA so I can't publicly say which company this is and what forum/s I work in. However, from a single specific forum I specialize in, cost considerations have led them to rolling out a merger of the different forums, which will involve a wipe in the user accounts and posts of every person. That would provide me with the venue to actually do what ETT advises. I feel that the company's weakness is actually in PR and in marketing; their technical capabilities have evolved greatly since their founding half a decade ago (and I've been a major community member since that time... no wonder). I still have minor issues with their competence, but I know very well that they REALLY NEED to work on that PR.
Excludos:
I know trolls won't go away, but at the very least I'd like to start turning the place around and make it TL-like in the sense that it's inhospitable for stupid/noobish people who can't articulate well.
Oh by the way, I heard that Facebook Connect would be used on the forum... damnit it's a short step away from RealID.  I could actually turn that to my advantage. > Makes it easier to check out people  then  Muhaha.
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Yeah, the SC2 forum has become a mess, but I guess there is nothing we can do about it. There are shitload of people that doesnt know SC:BW or TL exist before SC2.
Time has change -_-.
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How about making it easier to report someone? As of right now (as far as I know) you have to find a moderator and pm him the name of the troll and the post..thats more work than just clicking a button.
I realize this means more work for the moderators as well (since it will undoubtedly be misused), but it would do wonders for making TL just a tad happier place...hopefully..
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You can't.
Best you can do is to make a separate subforum for chitchat, serving as a shitfilter to the entire forum, like /b/ to 4chan.
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EPT
