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Do NOT Feed the Trolls: A Rant against Idiocy

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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
September 29 2010 08:21 GMT
#1
I am long-time community contributor and moderator for a large company in the Philippines, and I've been reading posts by people there recently. I now realize that the company is "damaged goods" on one level, but I am also ticked off that since there is already that existing image, that they can act like absolute dumb asses.

I've noticed that post quality has degraded abysmally since I started there around half a decade ago. Luckily, nobody knows or has the gall to turn it into a 4chan clone. *oh the horror*

Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.

Now to my question: How do you convert these people from being completely retarded posters who flame each other about lack of fairness at every opportunity to at least be semi constructive people? I cannot be there 24/7, and I have nearly no back-up on enforcement.

I hate being stuck in this, but I love laying the banhammer on an idiot. It's the best form of destressing.

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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
September 29 2010 08:35 GMT
#2
On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.

I am sorry what?

You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
September 29 2010 08:36 GMT
#3
Lead by example is one of the best methods. Why don't you post a long, well-thought out post about the subject. And make a couple "examples" from the first few people who don't get how serious to take the subject. It helps if one of them is a long time member.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
September 29 2010 08:37 GMT
#4
On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.

I am sorry what?

You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators.


Silly Germans don't read the whole post...
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Frozenhelfire
Profile Joined May 2010
United States420 Posts
September 29 2010 08:38 GMT
#5
You aren't giving much information to work with. This is a company forum so why not change company policy to punish people for misbehaving?
polar bears are fluffy
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 29 2010 08:43 GMT
#6
On September 29 2010 17:37 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.

I am sorry what?

You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators.


Silly Germans don't read the whole post...


not to mention he hasn't been a part of tl for more than a year haha.

as for subject, ETT hits it home pretty well.
maybe the rules need revision? and an update.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
September 29 2010 09:20 GMT
#7
On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.

I am sorry what?

You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators.


I wanted to report this person saying that this user generally doesn't read the threads before he responds but the report function was disabled for this users account.

What do I do in that case?
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
DatTheMighty
Profile Joined March 2009
Vietnam122 Posts
September 29 2010 09:25 GMT
#8
On September 29 2010 18:20 MYM.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.

I am sorry what?

You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators.


I wanted to report this person saying that this user generally doesn't read the threads before he responds but the report function was disabled for this users account.

What do I do in that case?


you can stop being such a huge penis u hacker

User was banned for this post.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
September 29 2010 09:34 GMT
#9
Totally works on this guys posts though.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
September 29 2010 09:50 GMT
#10
On September 29 2010 17:37 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.

I am sorry what?

You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators.


Silly Germans don't read the whole post...

Sigh.... I I came here right after reading that Hathor blog and just assumed people on the internet are stupid.

Sorry OP, my bad. Note to self: Don't operate heavy machinery or TL when sleep deprived.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 29 2010 10:31 GMT
#11
Not reading, Zatic leads by example
I think esports is pretty nice.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
September 29 2010 11:08 GMT
#12
hahaha Zatic.

A few years from now, I bet this blog will STILL come back to haunt you. XD
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 11:22:22
September 29 2010 11:20 GMT
#13
The reason why there are trolls have been addressed by penny arcade a few years ago:

[image loading]

There will always be trolls
Yotta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 12:20:48
September 29 2010 12:20 GMT
#14
On September 29 2010 20:20 Excludos wrote:
The reason why there are trolls have been addressed by penny arcade a few years ago:

[image loading]

There will always be trolls
Isn't the obvious solution to make people post on official game forums under their real names? I think most people would gladly trade their internet anonymity for the eradication of trolls.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
September 29 2010 12:26 GMT
#15
On September 29 2010 21:20 Yotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 20:20 Excludos wrote:
The reason why there are trolls have been addressed by penny arcade a few years ago:

[image loading]

There will always be trolls
Isn't the obvious solution to make people post on official game forums under their real names? I think most people would gladly trade their internet anonymity for the eradication of trolls.


We can spin it off, kind of give it a catchy name...IRL Name? Real Name?

*snaps fingers*

REAL ID! It's brilliant! A clever use of "Real Name" and "Posting ID"

PERFECT!
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 29 2010 14:05 GMT
#16
On September 29 2010 21:26 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 21:20 Yotta wrote:
On September 29 2010 20:20 Excludos wrote:
The reason why there are trolls have been addressed by penny arcade a few years ago:

[image loading]

There will always be trolls
Isn't the obvious solution to make people post on official game forums under their real names? I think most people would gladly trade their internet anonymity for the eradication of trolls.


We can spin it off, kind of give it a catchy name...IRL Name? Real Name?

*snaps fingers*

REAL ID! It's brilliant! A clever use of "Real Name" and "Posting ID"

PERFECT!


Or we just permban morons...
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 14:14:27
September 29 2010 14:12 GMT
#17
On September 29 2010 18:50 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 17:37 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:35 zatic wrote:
On September 29 2010 17:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Also, I am NOT a paid employee there; i.e. I am essentially the equivalent of a TL Banling, but I can wield considerable influence with regards to any forum changes that will happen.

I am sorry what?

You can report posts that you feel violate TL rules to moderators.


Silly Germans don't read the whole post...

Sigh.... I I came here right after reading that Hathor blog and just assumed people on the internet are stupid.

Sorry OP, my bad. Note to self: Don't operate heavy machinery or TL when sleep deprived.

I am SOOO quoting this. And I do PM someone with a red icon when I see bad stuff.

ETT/Frozen:

The company is in essence outsourcing its community moderation to a small group of people they can trust since they're swamped with work internally. I'm under an NDA so I can't publicly say which company this is and what forum/s I work in. However, from a single specific forum I specialize in, cost considerations have led them to rolling out a merger of the different forums, which will involve a wipe in the user accounts and posts of every person. That would provide me with the venue to actually do what ETT advises. I feel that the company's weakness is actually in PR and in marketing; their technical capabilities have evolved greatly since their founding half a decade ago (and I've been a major community member since that time... no wonder). I still have minor issues with their competence, but I know very well that they REALLY NEED to work on that PR.

Excludos:

I know trolls won't go away, but at the very least I'd like to start turning the place around and make it TL-like in the sense that it's inhospitable for stupid/noobish people who can't articulate well.

Oh by the way, I heard that Facebook Connect would be used on the forum... damnit it's a short step away from RealID. I could actually turn that to my advantage. > Makes it easier to check out people then Muhaha.
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 29 2010 14:12 GMT
#18
Yeah, the SC2 forum has become a mess, but I guess there is nothing we can do about it. There are shitload of people that doesnt know SC:BW or TL exist before SC2.
Time has change -_-.
Terran
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8186 Posts
September 29 2010 15:57 GMT
#19
How about making it easier to report someone? As of right now (as far as I know) you have to find a moderator and pm him the name of the troll and the post..thats more work than just clicking a button.

I realize this means more work for the moderators as well (since it will undoubtedly be misused), but it would do wonders for making TL just a tad happier place...hopefully..
Frigo
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary1023 Posts
September 29 2010 16:24 GMT
#20
You can't.

Best you can do is to make a separate subforum for chitchat, serving as a shitfilter to the entire forum, like /b/ to 4chan.
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