• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:46
CEST 21:46
KST 04:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over0New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!36Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BW General Discussion Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group F BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Browser Invoker Combo Trainer & Speedrun Simulator Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6870 users

NoVA/DC/MD Cybergrounds PC Lan - Page 3

Blogs > ZlaSHeR
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
Ipp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States456 Posts
September 27 2010 04:25 GMT
#41
Great post, and I will back the entire LastShadow thing he is a great player and really nice person. Sure he has had his moments, but then again who hasn't? There was a time when a 1v1 was accidentally started as 2v2, which leads to "fixed" spawn locations. LastShadow was next to me watching the game and broke out a joke like: "omg map fixing, we have lastshadow in the game". I haven't laughed that hard in a long time, great guy. He also isn't afraid to not play as Terran; he whooped my ass as Zerg even after I landed a few nukes and wiped his army and a base! That takes some seriously good mechanics.

Oh and how about we show Gretorp some love? Very high level player and didn't really treat anyone as just a scrub. Also, I'm pretty sure it was his Birthday and he drove at least 4 hours to play SC2 at a LAN; now that is dedication.

Lastly everyone at that LAN was amazing; without a doubt the best LAN event I have been to.
http://youtube.com/RageQuitTV
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 27 2010 06:22 GMT
#42
That deserves a separate blog entry in itself, Rob

Nick's definitely a very dedicated individual with a passion for SC and if he finally picks a goddamn race, he's gonna go far imo ^^
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 27 2010 07:49 GMT
#43
On September 27 2010 13:25 Ipp wrote:
Great post, and I will back the entire LastShadow thing he is a great player and really nice person. Sure he has had his moments, but then again who hasn't? There was a time when a 1v1 was accidentally started as 2v2, which leads to "fixed" spawn locations. LastShadow was next to me watching the game and broke out a joke like: "omg map fixing, we have lastshadow in the game". I haven't laughed that hard in a long time, great guy. He also isn't afraid to not play as Terran; he whooped my ass as Zerg even after I landed a few nukes and wiped his army and a base! That takes some seriously good mechanics.

Oh and how about we show Gretorp some love? Very high level player and didn't really treat anyone as just a scrub. Also, I'm pretty sure it was his Birthday and he drove at least 4 hours to play SC2 at a LAN; now that is dedication.

Lastly everyone at that LAN was amazing; without a doubt the best LAN event I have been to.


i was the one who was hacking spawn locations btw (even though i did not host the map lol)
and yeah LS good guy at the lan, nothing bm about him during his play or durring the lan. If you had questions he would answer as well.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 27 2010 07:56 GMT
#44
I think thats one thing I loved about LS is that he'll just talk to you, he'll shake your hand and be your friend, he's very knowledgeable about what he does and is just a really good guy.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 07:59:25
September 27 2010 07:59 GMT
#45
On September 27 2010 13:25 Ipp wrote:

Oh and how about we show Gretorp some love? Very high level player and didn't really treat anyone as just a scrub. Also, I'm pretty sure it was his Birthday and he drove at least 4 hours to play SC2 at a LAN; now that is dedication.


Gretorp is Gretorp, therefore every post is love for Gretorp by default.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51686 Posts
September 27 2010 14:07 GMT
#46
On September 27 2010 04:55 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 03:42 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Chris - piggybacking off what Jibba said, it's not so much the fact that cheated and 'reformed', because as you say yourself, we've had plenty of examples of other people who fit that bill and are generally accepted members of the community. It was more about the way he conducted himself, played everyone for a fool AFTER multiple chances to reform, and just the amount of ridiculous drama surrounding everything that has been associated with him.

That's my personal take on it. I haven't met him irl yet, maybe he's a nice guy, maybe he really has matured a lot and come a long way, good for him if he has. Doesn't mean the whole of TL will be forgiving though.

And SadistX - ^_^, except I don't ditch you guys out of malicious intent, just real life stuff combined with bad timing. For what it's worth, my wife actually really wants to come to the next meet just to meet everyone.


Haypro cheated and we like him, lets sign him onto the most famous foreign team in the world and pay him $$$


Haypro's situation is completely different to that of Lastshadow's. He improperly used the Oblivion hack only once and there were no other instances of him using the hack anywhere else. He took the ban from the scene and has come back stronger than he was before.

Lastshadow, however, was a repeat offender.
Commentator
KamuL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States154 Posts
September 27 2010 15:19 GMT
#47
only posting this because its my understanding o.o but

ls' rigged maps were never used competitively, they were just used in practice, not cw's, not leagues, not ladders, all the rules on both gg.net/tl.net seem to only be against cheaters using them competitively (yes i know he basically got his name out there by using them, and beat many top players doing so, and basically deceiving them).

after that there was the wcg incident, in which LS admitted to nesh shortly afterwards and him/nesh became friendly(dunno how long xd) but these both happened within the same year LS was still being a faggot (he was 14? or just turned 15?)

and iirc his TSL incident, he didn't abuse, he shared an IP with his friend corey(moonrai), who did have kawaii give him free wins, i remember reading the posts or whatever, and it was that kawaii gave moonrai freewins, and LS/Moonrai had shared IP's.

his apology was years ago, and many people told him to prove it with actions not words (especially since when even i read that apology, i thought it was bullshit, and just because he was caught, and probably, it was bullshit, because of his age, and being so worried/anxious about everythiing).

so he cheated in wcg/rigged maps non-competitively. he never hacked, he was proven clean several times with the flag method, iccup admins releasing hacker names, and constantly providing replay packs at the end of every season.

he's played in a dozen+ lans in the past two years, and constantly done extremely well, and been extremely gm/outgoing. he even helped me in bw, as well as many other players, giving them games etc.

testie hacked how many times?
trek hacked how many times?
did g5 also abuse tsl vs mistrzzz?
what about all the REAL tsl2 abusers? the ones that actually tried to steal a very large sum of money from people, by abusing? none of them get anywhere near the same level of shit LS did.

he's admitted to all his faults, mistakes, and purely being an idiot. he even said at the lan when people brought up his past "yeah but i was still a fucking douchebag and bm on top of the cheating here and there."

many people advocate for him, because he's one of the very few top players that constantly help out newbies and give them advice/let them obs his games.

any other player who would have constantly had doors closed on them, and opportunities taken away, as much as LS has, probably would've quit, and yet here he is, still pushing through the flame and shit, to show he's different.

just my two cents o.o
IsAi.199 =) Roar
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 27 2010 23:53 GMT
#48
Yeah, I guess in the end it comes down to the fact that, from what all the admins/mods have seen it is completely unfeasable to reallow LS back into team liquid, but to us to have met him we might feel a bit differently.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
September 28 2010 00:03 GMT
#49
ls helped me practice for TSL2 under a smurf for several weeks before telling me
but u really dont need to unban him cuz kamul will just post everything for him anyway
@KawaiiRiceLighT
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
September 28 2010 00:14 GMT
#50
haha I remember that. good old isildur. He told me not to tell you it was him.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 28 2010 02:19 GMT
#51
On September 28 2010 09:03 KawaiiRice wrote:
ls helped me practice for TSL2 under a smurf for several weeks before telling me
but u really dont need to unban him cuz kamul will just post everything for him anyway


eah posting is one thing and Kamul has been warned for letting LS posting under his account... but as long as LS is banned, he will be unable to play in tl events. I'm in no position to unban him, but as far as him as a player in all the tournaments, he is a very competitive person and well mannered like Luckyfool said.

(btw kawaii see you at mlg soon! yes? )
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 28 2010 03:45 GMT
#52
On September 28 2010 09:03 KawaiiRice wrote:
ls helped me practice for TSL2 under a smurf for several weeks before telling me
but u really dont need to unban him cuz kamul will just post everything for him anyway


Not anymore lol!
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 28 2010 03:53 GMT
#53
Reason: LastShadow's puppet account. Previously warned and clearly doesn't give a fuck.


Hmm, didn't see LS post on it, looked pretty obviously like Isai posting but i guess they traced IPs or whatever?
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
September 28 2010 03:54 GMT
#54
Kamul has been posting for lastshadow for the past year. All through the wcg thread and elsewhere.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 28 2010 08:31 GMT
#55
On September 28 2010 12:53 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
Reason: LastShadow's puppet account. Previously warned and clearly doesn't give a fuck.


Hmm, didn't see LS post on it, looked pretty obviously like Isai posting but i guess they traced IPs or whatever?


they live in the same house.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 28 2010 13:41 GMT
#56
Oh ok, that explains it, oh well =\ guess thats done for
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
September 28 2010 14:21 GMT
#57
I first met Lastshadow at that LAN long ago where LS, orb, slogg, and I think a few others crashed at my place.

I'll admit that my first impression of him was that he was a spoiled, arrogant little shit of a person. After the weekend was over, my opinion had changed little. That's been my prejudice from day one, but he's been surprising me lately.

He seems quite different now though. He's pretty chill, a fantastic SC2 player, and generally just friendly to everyone. He's also totally open about his past, which is quite redeeming. I think he's changed, as he seems genuinely nice these days. Personally I'd say let him back, but I understand that TL has too much history that I never really read up on, so what do I know.

Anyways, a great LAN overall! Whoooo!
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#61
RotterdaM1234
TKL 429
IndyStarCraft 292
SteadfastSC225
kabyraGe 157
ZombieGrub128
BRAT_OK 123
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1234
TKL 429
IndyStarCraft 292
SteadfastSC 225
ZombieGrub128
BRAT_OK 123
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 709
Dewaltoss 134
Hyun 54
Aegong 24
Dota 2
Gorgc4457
Counter-Strike
fl0m4823
shoxiejesuss1205
pashabiceps1202
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0185
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby2801
Liquid`Hasu396
MindelVK1
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi2255
Beastyqt834
ArmadaUGS180
XaKoH 168
Trikslyr62
QueenE48
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV45
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 11
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21195
League of Legends
• TFBlade1185
Other Games
• imaqtpie1645
• Shiphtur316
Upcoming Events
GSL
15h 14m
OSC
17h 14m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 4h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
OSC
5 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.