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akomatic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
156 Posts
September 25 2010 19:59 GMT
#1
Some Backstory: I played a very small amount of BW campaign in my first week of college. I loved the game, but knew that it wasn't a good time to pick up a wildly addictive hobby. So I put it on the shelf, and haven't played anything but a few casual console and flash games for about six years.

For the past couple years, I've been following the Korean Scene, and have watched many commentaries and VODs from the past decade. I first fell in love with the scene while watching the Savior vs Iris series commentated by Klazart. I read about all the units on Liquipedia, and studied TL strategy threads. I continued following the scene with Diggity and NukeTheStars, and in streams and Jon747/nevake videos, but still didn't have the hours to commit to playing the game. But now I do.

My goal is to attain a D+ rank on ICCUP. A TL thread said that by this point in BW history, the challenge to achieve even D+ is too great to attract new players. Sign me up!

*****
..Bears!
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
September 25 2010 20:04 GMT
#2
If your user icon is correct in saying that you are Terran... then the best of luck to you! I've found Terran to be the toughest race to become established in -where you achieve a good level of comfort with the builds and timings.

There will definitely be some frustrating moments... when you real weaker players are beating you simply because they have builds that are easier to execute.
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Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
September 25 2010 20:05 GMT
#3
WELCOME TO BROOD WAR! =)
It's great to see people giving SC2's predecessor a chance.

By the way, what race are you?
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5660 Posts
September 25 2010 20:21 GMT
#4
On September 26 2010 04:59 akomatic wrote:
A TL thread said that by this point in BW history, the challenge to achieve even D+ is too great to attract new players.


i would agree with that lol

GL!
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
September 25 2010 20:25 GMT
#5
yay +1 for broodwar!

dedication will eventually translate into skill!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 25 2010 20:30 GMT
#6
GL :p
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
September 25 2010 20:35 GMT
#7
good luck man! i know how hard it is to start up, but im sure you'll do great
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Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
September 25 2010 20:41 GMT
#8
Oh boy oh boy, best of luck man!
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alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
September 25 2010 20:48 GMT
#9
I keep bouncing back from D to D+ this season it's pretty tough! Good luck dude.
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Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
September 25 2010 21:06 GMT
#10
On September 26 2010 04:59 akomatic wrote:
A TL thread said that by this point in BW history, the challenge to achieve even D+ is too great to attract new players


Really?!? Wow, I made D+ and still felt like i played like absolute crap. Maybe I am not as bad as I thought...
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 25 2010 21:20 GMT
#11
D+ is quite a challenge, but you can do it. I momentarily achieved it before falling back down to the D-/D edge, where I remain.
Good luck, you'll probably get raped the first few dozen games. Message me on iccup(Lightwip) if you wanna play a few practice games.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
September 25 2010 22:04 GMT
#12
tvz: 2 port wraith
tvt: 2 port wraith
tvp: strong fd

I'd start by learning some kinda bad semi-cheeses just to get you comfortable with the interface and everything. Late game sc must be really overwhelming for new players. ^^
funnybananaman
Profile Joined April 2009
United States830 Posts
September 25 2010 22:13 GMT
#13
Yeah with terran it can be tough starting out, especially vs protoss but don't give up! good luck man
HCastorp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States388 Posts
September 25 2010 22:36 GMT
#14
Good luck, but its going to be tough!

My experience picking up BW recently:

I picked up BW around the time the sc2 beta came out and played about 200 games on iccup. Before that I played about 60 games on B.net. I had never played BW before, (or any video games for the last 10 years or so) but I played a lot of vanilla SC when I was a little kid.

I played zerg, which I think is somewhat easier for the beginner than terran, and I was pretty happy to even make it to a solid "D" rank in my second season. I think I peaked at about 1600 points after 150 games or so (about 110 ladder games, 40 non ladder), and my winrate was around 30% iirc.

My apm was generally around 90. Any terran who beat me usually had at least 150, which should give you some idea of the mechanical requirements of playing Terran. Although I think they may have a somewhat easier time from the point of view of decision making, at least against Zerg.

That said, I had tons of fun despite not playing very well. Even though I did a lot of losing, I found losing at BW much much more enjoyable than losing at SC2 because the largest difficulties in the beginning are generally mechanical - for your first few hundred games it will be very easy to find dozens of things you could have done better before you even really engage the opponent. This meant it was easy to see my own improvement even when my results didn't necessarily reflect that.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
September 25 2010 22:54 GMT
#15
On September 26 2010 07:04 hifriend wrote:
tvz: 2 port wraith
tvt: 2 port wraith
tvp: strong fd

I'd start by learning some kinda bad semi-cheeses just to get you comfortable with the interface and everything. Late game sc must be really overwhelming for new players. ^^


you are not gonna beat any zergs with a bad 2port

probably terrans too
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
September 25 2010 23:46 GMT
#16
Reaching D+ with Terran is going to be difficult

TvP is really hard at lower levels and most D D+ players are Protoss

Good luck~
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
September 26 2010 02:48 GMT
#17
Good luck man, that's a real challenge !
But as you know, no pain, no gain
ॐ
akomatic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
156 Posts
September 26 2010 17:34 GMT
#18
Hey all, thanks very much for the support, and yes, I'm going to play Terran. I'm going through both campaigns now, since I never finished the first time. Based on my years of lurking, I've set a few goals to prepare somewhat for when I enter the arena (which will probably be in about a week).
- Constantly pump workers, and expand when possible.
- Keep the queues low, but more importantly, make sure there's no downtime.
- Keep resources low.
- Try not to get supply blocked, nor increase supply too soon.
- Memorize and learn as many shortcuts and hot keys as possible.

After Campaign, I'll probably practice a build order per match-up before starting. And yes, I expect to lose. A lot.
..Bears!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
September 26 2010 17:41 GMT
#19
Grr.....D+ Terran at this stage? Good luck dude!

I remember when I was close to C-......then I let it all go. -_-
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
September 26 2010 21:51 GMT
#20
Good luck man!
A noble endeavor, we need more broodwar players in the world..
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