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On September 22 2010 12:28 MrBitter wrote:
As an Atlanta native, I say this with only the most genuine intentions.
Fuck Michael Vick. Fuck that quitter who sat on the sidelines because his finger was hurt. Fuck that douche bag who felt it necessary to give the finger to his hometown fans. Fuck that dog killing joke of a human being who dodged our justice system because he was a celebrity.
Enjoy it while it lasts, Vick. Scrubs like you have a true knack for pissing away great opportunities.
He's definitely not a scrub. Made some bad choices at one point in his life but I'm sure he regrets his actions.
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On September 22 2010 13:05 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2010 12:59 Slow Motion wrote:On September 22 2010 12:51 Tazza wrote:
Guys, you know what I just realized? People in the usa care more about dogs than people. Everyone here talked about how the dogs don't get second chances, but what about those people that were murdered. And oh yeah, the dogs that survived to go to the animal resources center. I mean, Donte Stallworth killed a PERSON by DUI. He got 1 month in jail. And Stallworth still plays. If a murderer can get a second chance, why can't vick. And it was not all vick that was doing this, it was mostly his bad friends that used the house under his name If Vick killed a dog by DUI, he would've been punished less than Stallworth. If Vick tortured and killed humans instead of dogs in his backyard, the he would have been punished more than he was. So your argument that people in the U.S. care more about dogs than people is wrong. Yeah, but Stallworth killed another human being. And as i said, it wasn't vick as so much as it was his friends. And who's fault is it that Stallworth was drunk, and was driving. He shouldn't have been doing that, but he did, and he killed a person. I still find it amazing how vick got 18 times the harsher penalty. For example, for voluntary manslaughter, the sentence is by fine, jail time, or both, but the jail time cannot go over 10 years. Involuntary murder is the same, but cannot go over 6 years. 6 years vs 10 years is not even double, much less 18x more. Right now I have got to go to bed, its midnight here, but when I get back from school tomorrow at 3, I would like to discuss more of this with you guys
Sorry, but using the Donte Stallworth situation to compare is terrible because that too was a complete travesty. The family of the victim was very active in getting restitution over jail time, and it worked. But comparing vicks situation to another situation that was a total joke does nothing for his case.
I am not so against the amount of time he served, but don't give us the whole "it was his friends" crap. Michael Vick bankrolled the whole operation, and his friends were a bunch of leech gangster thugs that sucked off his tit. That was just one of a hundred shitty things he did with his guaranteed money, which is why he had to declare bankruptcy.
Vick got his second chance, and I hope he gives more than lip service to his supposed changes.
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On September 22 2010 13:17 Dr3w wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2010 12:28 MrBitter wrote:
As an Atlanta native, I say this with only the most genuine intentions.
Fuck Michael Vick. Fuck that quitter who sat on the sidelines because his finger was hurt. Fuck that douche bag who felt it necessary to give the finger to his hometown fans. Fuck that dog killing joke of a human being who dodged our justice system because he was a celebrity.
Enjoy it while it lasts, Vick. Scrubs like you have a true knack for pissing away great opportunities. He's definitely not a scrub. Made some bad choices at one point in his life but I'm sure he regrets his actions.
If he does regret his actions, rather than regret getting caught, he would surely be unique amongst his NFL peers. Just ask Braylon Edwards.
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go michael vick! he deserves a second chance. im glad hes having success with the eagles this year
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On September 22 2010 12:46 Whiladan wrote:
Sorry, 18 months might make up for his crimes in the Justice system's eyes, but the terrible crimes he committed go against any and all reasonable moral boundaries. He is, put softly, a worthless sack of shit who deserves to be treated the same way he treated those 30-odd dogs they dug out of his backyard.
Second chances are great, people make mistakes. What happens to the dogs when they lose, though? Do they get second chances, did they do anything wrong? No, and it sickens me to think that people are already letting go of what he did because...he's good at Football.
I'm not sure how to tie up this rant so I guess...have fun with your quarterback? I can only hope he and everyone like him suffer just as much as the dogs he tortured and killed did. FUCK YEAH!!!
dude
they are just fucking dogs
its not like he killed ppl
the fucker serves 18 months for dog fighting but donte stallworth who killed a fucking person gets 30 days.
he served his time and paid his dues
second chances are what this country is about, otherwise go to fucking china or something.
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i cant understand animal rights. they are just fucking animals, lower on the ecosystem.
we eat our horribly abused chickens, or cows who don't move but OH NO, A DOG WAS ABUSED!!!!
its kind of disgusting how bad it has gotten.
goddamn peta and all those activist groups.
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to respond to the OP:
i am happy for vick too.
he played like a stud, providing entertaining football, exactly what he is supposed to do.
its a shame he will be benched for kolb again, but hopefully kolb does so bad they are forced to put vick back into the lineup.
i hope he gets traded to the vikings...
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we should totally bring back the days of prisoners doing gladiatorial battle to the death for their freedom
if he was sentenced to like 18 months of gladiator combat and survived i would be more inclined to give him a second chance.
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Good shit, I'm a vick fan too.. Him and Brees are my 2 favorite QBs to watch. And i got Desean Jackson on my fantasy squad and they've been gellin so 
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On September 22 2010 13:47 Coagulation wrote:
we should totally bring back the days of prisoners doing gladiatorial battle to the death for their freedom
if he was sentenced to like 18 months of gladiator combat and survived i would be more inclined to give him a second chance.
Some prisons are like that dude...
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well, since when has andy reid not been a shitty human being?
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also, you would think that the trade leverage the eagles have would be worth more
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i can't wait until the eagles play the redskins
i really really can't wait to see mcnabb kill them
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He never has, and never will be a great quarterback. He's a glorified running back who is too quick to try to prove he isn't. If he simply acknowledge he was mediocre and ran with greater frequency, he could legitimately have signs of greatness. Instead, he'll still try to force passes or choose to throw instead of run in situations merely to try to prove to his detractors that he is a quarterback.
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Oh Michael Vick. Whenever you played you were one of the most exciting quarterbacks to watch. Too bad the Falcons never really got you a stud wideout and instead you were stuck with shit like Peerless Price. The speed and elusiveness of a running back, but at quarterback. Boy were you fun to watch.
But when you didn't play, and that was quite often, you left all of us Falcons fans out there hanging, wondering whether or not you'd be able to stay healthy next year for the entire season. And rarely were we graced with such a thing. I will never forgive you for leaving our franchise to die. A ton of our money clogged up in our superstar quarterback, only to be left in disappointment as we saw our franchise QB get sent to jail the same year we trade our backup QB. (I miss you Matt Schaub!)
We trusted you, and you broke that trust. For that, I can never forgive you. Had we not landed Matt Ryan, our franchise would continue to be in a state of rebuilding, as we try to recover from what you left behind. Thanks Mike Vick.
Fuck you Michael Vick. It pains me to see how well you're doing in Philly nowadays. What could have been if you were still at the helm of the Falcons offense. Vick to a non-butterfingers Roddy White, handing off to Michael Turner. What could have been.
Fuck you Michael Vick. Fuck you.
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LOLOLOL Vick has fans?? One of the most, if not the most inconsistent QB out there. Is he the starting QB now? Last week I heard Andy Reid said that Kolb was going to still be their primary QB?
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The guy is fucking electrifyingly athletic. For that reason i love to watch him play, because its rare to see the kind of talent where at any given play he can disappear down the field impossibly fast. But most of the time its just a let down. Kinda sucks a human being, but god damn i would do some unforgiveable things to have that kind of athleticism.
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On September 22 2010 14:25 MetalMarine wrote:
LOLOLOL Vick has fans?? One of the most, if not the most inconsistent QB out there. Is he the starting QB now? Last week I heard Andy Reid said that Kolb was going to still be their primary QB?
he caved to the masses of retarded eagles fans that were screaming for vick to get the job
the same masses that wanted mcnabb gone. this is why the eagles will never win another championship, because they let the fans run the team
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On September 22 2010 13:17 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2010 13:05 Tazza wrote:On September 22 2010 12:59 Slow Motion wrote:On September 22 2010 12:51 Tazza wrote:
Guys, you know what I just realized? People in the usa care more about dogs than people. Everyone here talked about how the dogs don't get second chances, but what about those people that were murdered. And oh yeah, the dogs that survived to go to the animal resources center. I mean, Donte Stallworth killed a PERSON by DUI. He got 1 month in jail. And Stallworth still plays. If a murderer can get a second chance, why can't vick. And it was not all vick that was doing this, it was mostly his bad friends that used the house under his name If Vick killed a dog by DUI, he would've been punished less than Stallworth. If Vick tortured and killed humans instead of dogs in his backyard, the he would have been punished more than he was. So your argument that people in the U.S. care more about dogs than people is wrong. Yeah, but Stallworth killed another human being. And as i said, it wasn't vick as so much as it was his friends. And who's fault is it that Stallworth was drunk, and was driving. He shouldn't have been doing that, but he did, and he killed a person. I still find it amazing how vick got 18 times the harsher penalty. For example, for voluntary manslaughter, the sentence is by fine, jail time, or both, but the jail time cannot go over 10 years. Involuntary murder is the same, but cannot go over 6 years. 6 years vs 10 years is not even double, much less 18x more. Right now I have got to go to bed, its midnight here, but when I get back from school tomorrow at 3, I would like to discuss more of this with you guys Sorry, but using the Donte Stallworth situation to compare is terrible because that too was a complete travesty. The family of the victim was very active in getting restitution over jail time, and it worked. But comparing vicks situation to another situation that was a total joke does nothing for his case. I am not so against the amount of time he served, but don't give us the whole "it was his friends" crap. Michael Vick bankrolled the whole operation, and his friends were a bunch of leech gangster thugs that sucked off his tit. That was just one of a hundred shitty things he did with his guaranteed money, which is why he had to declare bankruptcy. Vick got his second chance, and I hope he gives more than lip service to his supposed changes.
I'm really happy someone came into this thread and discussed the fact that the family of the victim had a VERY large role in Stallworth's sentencing and restitution.
A family friend of mine killed someone while he was drunk, it wasn't even his fault (the person was driving on the wrong side of the road) but because he was drunk he did FOUR years. The family in this case pursued jail time instead of any monetary restitution, though.
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I've been a Falcons fan since 1996, and I cant believe how bad Atlanta fans are. They really hate Vick so much, forgetting that Vick actually made us relevant for so many years. With Mora as head coach, he would of been 2-50 without Vick.. Vick made the team decent, enough to get to the NFC champ game.. Something Matt Ryan will probably never do. Mora never built Vick an oline or weapons around him, and the defense was beyond pitiful.
If only we could have Mike Smith and TD's great minds (and actually building a TEAM! drafting OLine for once! a GOOD defense!) with Vick at QB, the Falcons would easily win the next 3 superbowls in a row. Unfortunately, we have Matt Ryan who throws so many picks and loses us games (steelers game 2 weeks ago??) and bleh. I still have hope, if Turner stays healthy.. but Ryan is overrated and no where near as good of a QB as Vick ever was.
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