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Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 02 2010 01:06 GMT
#1
eSports has developed quite a bit since the day I first started following. I remember quite distinctly the day I first tuned in to a live stream of Brood War. It was the day of the Harry Potter 7th book release, July 21st of 2007. I'd followed the scene from early 2005 when I first stumbled upon TL, but due to most live events being at terrible hours for East Coast America, I never actually caught a live event.

But that day was different. I distinctly remember not being able to sleep, waking up at around 5 oclock, turning on my computer to try and pass the time. So I went on TL, took a look at current events and saw that the Daum OSL Finals were on at that time. By the time I got everything set up, it was already set 3. I remember clearly that GGPlay was getting his nat shelled on Hitchhiker, down 0-2 already to Iris.

About 90 minutes later, I would finish watching one of the greatest comebacks in OSL history, and quite possibly the greatest OSL Final ever. Game 5 was simply spectacular play from GGPlay at that time. Being able to see the sheer elation and joy from GGPlay after his win was truly touching.

Anyways, those OSL Finals left a great impression on me. Just the thrill of watching games live between your favorite players along with everyone else is just incredible. Back in the days, I'd sit in LR threads waiting for someone to LR what was happening. Then it gradually progressed to shitty MMS links, then Daum Player (So frustrating), and Daum Sports (Ughh).

Early in 09 though, we saw the emergence of Livestreams and streams available to the public. I remember L1 and L3 for OGN, and Konadora's Livestreams at the start. Hell, they were all shitty quality, but I didn't care. As long as I got to see the games, that's all that mattered. As streaming technology progressed, we saw the eruption of Livestreams on TL. As I'm typing this, I see 27 non-featured streams along with Gretorp's stream. Just a year ago, this would have never happened.

What Livestream did was open the portal for everyone to watch. Your average Joe could easily click a stream link and watch some of the greatest BW players duke it out. Upwards of 6000/7000 people have tuned in to the MSL and OSL Finals. People from everywhere have tuned into livestreams. I've seen people from WoW forums, 4chan, and just random hobby forums. What made it great was that it was readily accessible to everyone. That's what eSports is all about. Spreading the joy of gaming to everyone.

Nowadays, with all the current rumblings between Gretech and OGN/MBC and GOM's streaming policy, I just don't know if eSports is headed in the right direction. I want it to succeed, but to isolate foreigners and charge them to watch GOM, is that really necessary? I wanna be able to see players like Tester and Idra play SC2.

But at the same time, I also want to see Brood War live on. Right now, you've got so many talented faces in BW. From Flash to Jaedong to Bisu and Stork. You still see old faces like Nada and Boxer from time to time. The quality of play has increased so much since I first watched live. Something as incredible as GGPlay's insane defiler defense at 12 o'clock of Python in Game 5 is now considered pedestrian these days.

However, I just don't know if we're gonna be able to see either. Unless I fork out 20 bucks, I won't be able to see SC2 live, and who knows if BW will continue onwards. Everyone says they want eSports to branch out and develop. But what Blizzard is doing these days. Is that really helping to develop the scene? I'm sure there are a lot of SC2 fans who just want a sneak peek at how Koreans play the game. They're just curious. But a lot of them aren't willing to pay money to watch simply because it's inconvenient. I'm not against paying to watch, but I do know that a lot of people are. So why would you even consider an option? The prize pool is insane, yet you're still trying to make foreigners pay to view?

I just don't get it. I'm kinda pissed, but I really just don't know what to make of the situation. I love BW and SC2, but right now I'm just not sure what to think of the entire state of things. I just want BW to live and SC2 to hopefully flourish in the future. But the way things are looking, neither of them might happen.

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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
September 02 2010 01:41 GMT
#2
still dont understand why sc1 has to die for sc2 to do good
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8142 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 01:52:11
September 02 2010 01:48 GMT
#3
On September 02 2010 10:41 MorningMusume11 wrote:
still dont understand why sc1 has to die for sc2 to do good


so then there's nothing better than sc2 for it to be compared to.


I was even mad when GOM wanted people to pay for some premium stream for GSL S3. Doesn't GOM understand advertisement at all? If you pay to watch SC (or any esport) then you are a SUCKER

Also I don't think Proleague/MSL/OSL will end. there's too much money and too many jobs involved in it for it to just go away suddenly. someone will eventually compromise.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 02:01:58
September 02 2010 02:01 GMT
#4
Iris vs GGplay was fuking amazing, probably my favorite osl finals I've seen live. It started intense with crazy 9pool almost winning then iris killing like 3 drones with an scv coming back, then going up 2-0 then losing 2-3. I remember I was like yelling at my computer in game 5 which was an amazing as freak 40 minute TvZ on python. Such amazing times. 2005-2007 were reallllly good years. Early 2007 was the first time it started getting much easier for us non korean speakers to watch games live. (before that you needed to use daum players or other korean stuff and there were like no english guides out there)

The first OSL finals I watched live were Savior vs Nada in March 2007 or something. Those were EPIC tvz's too.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 02 2010 02:24 GMT
#5
Remember the short-lived sc2.org streams from ilovecats? He was shouldering the server/bandwith costs to provide individual streams to each viewer, totally unlike the flash based streaming services nowadays.

I really don't understand what Gretech's expected outcome is. To get better and richer sponsorship deals, you need to reach a larger audience. Or, you can attempt to get revenue from your viewers, but that will definitely reduce the audience you reach. But for this approach you need to have a product that's remarkably unique and appealing. Others point to pay per view combat or wrestling events, but for those industries there is no alternative. While there are plenty of other tournaments to watch besides GSL. They seem to be trying to do both and will probably not be too successful in either respect.

To be honest, as much as I enjoy watching pro BW, I think I'd be better off as a person if the scene died, because then all the time I dedicate to watching and following the scene would be freed up to do something (hopefully) more productive.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
September 02 2010 02:30 GMT
#6
Yes! I loved sc2.org! There were forums and everything there, a pretty decent community building up. But yeah, he was paying for EVERYTHING. At the time I didn't really realize just how much ilovecats was doing for us. But that was my first live sc watching. I lived on that site for like 4 months straight.

I didn't sign up an account TL till I "had" to when sc2.org was dying out.
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