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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-01 16:05:06
August 19 2010 23:17 GMT
#1
So today I get two new friend requests from people's who's name I don't recognize and I accept. One comes online. Now since I use the SC2 broadcast system like a Twitter for top players I don't want just anyone to be on my /f l.

So I kindly ask the gentleman who he is:
You: whos this?

ZergSwarm: WC3 pro, now SC2
just looking for some practice

Now I get these all the time and 99.99% of the time i delete them and kindly explain I am not the right person for practice. But this one caught my eye. While I know the general scene in WC3 I will be the first to admit I know the mainstream WC3 guys like Moon for the most part and that's it. So being a tournament organizer I would love to grab a former WC3 pro and help get him started.

You: ahh im not a good practice partner. tt. i spend all my time organizing my events not actually playing. what was ur name in WC3?

ZergSwarm: TeRRoR.KhAoZ

So I google his name and it was at that moment I realized I had a TL blog that didn't suck in the making.

[image loading]
Time to blog bitches!


What I saw on the very second entry under this on google was headlined with "[Outdated] WUtil drophack [1.24c]"

I decide to venture into this thread and use CTRL+F (best feature ever) to find his name. The following was the post:

I just got banned from this stupid fake hack. My account leavinhere @ lordaeron / us west was 500 wins 80% on west wtf man . PROFILE IT IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME

WHY WOULD YOU GUYS POST FAKE HACKS. I HATE THIS

Last edited by TeRRoR.KhAoZ; 01-04-2010 at 03:38 AM.


Hmmmm. I'm no police detective but I am beginning to think this fine professional gamer was nothing more than a professional hacker (actually not even pro as quoted above).

So I whisper him back and he gives me a quick reply as detailed below:

You: o ok
right on
well u were a pro or hacker in wc3 inm confused?

ZergSwarm: pro
hacker?
wtf?

I post http://www.d3scene.com/forum/warcraft-3-hacks/35186-outdated-wutil-drophack-1-24c.html]the following link[/url].

The convo as follows goes:

ZergSwarm: no thats not me

You: [thycus voice]the internet never forgets brother[/thycus voice]

ZergSwarm: lol....
yaeh and im sure you can find people named grubby on that same forum sir

You: o ic

ZergSwarm: you see what?

You: so if ur popular enough to have people tryign to be you how come i can't seem to find anything about you besides ur pages on various forums?

ZergSwarm: i didnt play enough
but i was easily one of the top undeads in the US

You: what team did you play for?

ZergSwarm: i didnt play for a team
like i said i didnt play enough
didnt have enough time
when i did play, i got round 5 in ZOTAC


So by now my bs meter is off the charts. At this point he is basically a pro ladder player that is on no team. But he is popular enough for people to try and imitate his name (exact same way too) and post as him.

So I look through his google history a bit deeper (didn't take long). By page 2 there is his posts on a pron forum but it's already starting to pick up random sites that have nothing to do with him. So looking further into his posts I see he was getting extra SC2 beta keys and selling them for $100. Real pro

[image loading]
Because this post needs more pictures



SO this is the point where I'm deciding if I want to push it or just leave it here and he chimes in with this:

ZergSwarm: practiced with all the top players, such as Moon, Grubby, Yaws, ThomasG
i was famous on battle.net....
home of the hackers

Now yet again I'm no WC3 expert but I know this is a lie. Turns out a have a few people on my staff that know more than me about WC3 and it's playerbase so I grab my phone and inform him of the following:

You: Ok lemme text Joseki real quick and get his 2 cents

ZergSwarm: joseki?
who's that?

You: a very experienced wc3 caster
member of my staff
see i run iCCup TV

[image loading]
QUICK! To the Batphone!


Now due to the current tornado warning going on and the immanent loss of power it's time to make this post a little shorter than I had hope. Seriously the siren is going off right now! SHIT!

ZergSwarm: i was never casted on
he wont know me

You: than there is no way and hell that is not you in that post....

ZergSwarm: look you dont have to believe me

You: im just saying

ZergSwarm: ive never seen that forum in my life
the assumption i came to

You: raelcun dosent get ppl tkaing his name and he has tons of loyal fans

So at this point the guy is trying to mis-strew (is that a word?) what I'm saying...

ZergSwarm: you are not making any sense
anyway i added you because i thought you were someone else
good bye

You: lol peace hacker.

ZergSwarm: i dont hack
faggot

You: lol it's always good to beat someone so bad in a debate they have to go to insults. congrats sir

ZergSwarm: you beat me so bad
you are so right
by claiming i have thousands of fans
good job
repeat what i say more, sir
fuck off
regards,

You: I never said you have fans
I said Raelcun does
ur not Raelcun

ZergSwarm: im never heard of raelcun
after playing wc3 for 7 years
gg?

You: thats a shame son. u should know the lay of the land b4 u come claming to be a pro (i meant the SC2 lay of the land). and there is no ladder "pros".

ZergSwarm: i didnt say i was a ladder pro
wow you will be blocked and reported soon
stop contacting me

You: Alright. L8r d00d.

So TL hacker or pro player?

Poll: Well...?

Hacker (59)
 
92%

Skilled [Hacker] (5)
 
8%

64 total votes

Your vote: Well...?

(Vote): Hacker
(Vote): Skilled [Hacker]



Sorry to cut it short but
[image loading]
This might be outside my house


****
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ohaicami
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States103 Posts
August 19 2010 23:23 GMT
#2
You spent way more time on him than I would have. Great inter-tective work, though.
Appetitus Rationi Pareat - Cicero (Let your desires be ruled by reason.)
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10672 Posts
August 19 2010 23:25 GMT
#3
Sounds like a pro hacker to me ^^... lol @ the insults from anger=p
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
August 19 2010 23:28 GMT
#4
What a clown. That was a pretty entertaining read though.
Floophead_III
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 19 2010 23:29 GMT
#5
Props. Always good to see a retard rage at his own fail.
Half man, half bear, half pig.
Emtee
Profile Joined August 2010
58 Posts
August 19 2010 23:29 GMT
#6
I like how he says "Stop contacting me" when he contacted you first.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
August 19 2010 23:32 GMT
#7
I love how this blog is already on the first page of the google search result.
Translator:3
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
August 19 2010 23:33 GMT
#8
This is what you spend your time doing? No wonder you never play a game of SC2
Life is Good.
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
August 19 2010 23:34 GMT
#9
That kid fails, lmfao what are the fucking odds of someone having the same name as him?

TeRRoR.KhAoZ with caps included, the combinations is endless!!!

KIDS CRAAAZZZZY.

Good work diamond :D
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MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
August 19 2010 23:35 GMT
#10
Rated 5/5 for giggles and EFFORT
DONATE SC2 BETA KEY TO ME PLEASE
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
August 19 2010 23:36 GMT
#11
haha good read. nice job destroying him.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 19 2010 23:37 GMT
#12
Ok so this is actually what is outside of my house.. Ruh roh.

Anyways I love that this is already on page 1 of google! lol
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
August 19 2010 23:59 GMT
#13
Though i like the intention of getting hackers, i don't think you are right. Maybe he is a hacker, maybe he's not.

In my opinion you were just being a douchebag.
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
August 20 2010 00:06 GMT
#14
Lol you destroyed him so hard.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 20 2010 00:07 GMT
#15
Not hacker, not pro... Just retard.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
drp223
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States170 Posts
August 20 2010 00:14 GMT
#16
Nice read but diamond do you live in Michigan.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
August 20 2010 00:19 GMT
#17
Now he will get hate pm from people...
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
August 20 2010 00:25 GMT
#18
wow
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
August 20 2010 00:30 GMT
#19
wow what a waste of time.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
August 20 2010 00:31 GMT
#20
that was so win ^^
Writer
lux[chavii]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Germany115 Posts
August 20 2010 00:38 GMT
#21
It was quite a while since I followed the WC3 scene closely, but there was indeed a POLISH (quote me if I'm wrong here) Undead named TeRRoR in the WC3 scene and sort of successful in the European WC3 Scene as well. He had a couple of matches on ESL and the like.
I can't remember the team he was playing for for the hell of it, but it was some team most people would've heard, when they were into WC3 one bit. Maybe it was even serious-gaming (sp?) back when RotterdaM was in it, too. Might be wrong there, though.
Now why he would be on the US servers is weird, although not impossible. The fact that he claims, that he wasn't in a team EVER is quite confusing, because iirc he was, at least at some point.
He also names two of the lesser famous players like yaWs and TomasG, which then again wouldn't prove anything anyway.
Sounds like a kid, who tries to take over fame from older and probably retired gamers now, so nice catch I guess.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
August 20 2010 00:46 GMT
#22
i played 3v3 against this guy and his team triple 6 pooled me and two randoms.. and lost :D
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
August 20 2010 00:54 GMT
#23
so you decided that finishing the conversation and getting to the bottom of this mystery was more important than the tornado warning? haha that's a truly committed detective!!
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 20 2010 00:57 GMT
#24
Holy shit sherlock ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
August 20 2010 01:11 GMT
#25
blogs like this is what makes me love the TL community xD I guess it was 'elementary' huh? xD nice job Diamond, and priceless blog, had a nice laugh XD
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
August 20 2010 01:12 GMT
#26
Can we add a poll for hacker or pro in this .
Why?
TeabagInsurance
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada320 Posts
August 20 2010 01:29 GMT
#27
lmao

DOMINATED

gj diamond :D 5/5
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TeabagInsurance
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada320 Posts
August 20 2010 01:31 GMT
#28
On August 20 2010 10:12 TheComeback wrote:
Can we add a poll for hacker or pro in this .

Poll: Well...?

Hacker (59)
 
92%

Skilled [Hacker] (5)
 
8%

64 total votes

Your vote: Well...?

(Vote): Hacker
(Vote): Skilled [Hacker]

Tired of getting teabagged? Get your teabag insurance today!
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
August 20 2010 01:32 GMT
#29
where's the "not very good either way" option?
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
August 20 2010 01:55 GMT
#30
The word you were looking for, I think, is misconstrue.

I hope no tornadoes occur where you are! :>
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
August 20 2010 01:57 GMT
#31
On August 20 2010 09:30 FortuneSyn wrote:
wow what a waste of time.


Exactly, that's just another hacker.
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
August 20 2010 02:10 GMT
#32
On August 20 2010 08:37 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Ok so this is actually what is outside of my house.. Ruh roh.

Anyways I love that this is already on page 1 of google! lol

A tree? i dont get it
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
ESV TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States109 Posts
August 20 2010 02:21 GMT
#33
hahaha that was hialrious
The Home of the Korean Weekly! http://www.esvtv.com
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 20 2010 02:24 GMT
#34
haha how could you be so patient ?

here is his profile on the forum you sent. anyone studying there ?

Zerg
Location
Houston, TX
Interests
PC Gaming (StarCraft II), Basketball, Football, Chess
Occupation
College student - Computer Science major at the Univeristy of Texas
ॐ
Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
August 20 2010 03:46 GMT
#35
the word you were looking for is misconstrue. and yeah he sounds like a hacker to me if he is who he says he is.
If you want peace... prepare for war.
hofodomo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
August 20 2010 04:19 GMT
#36
Hmm, I personally think you could have strung him along and played with him more. Also, doesn't the broadcast only go to RealID friends? You could still keep and friendslist and use it as a twitter.
Smoke weed ev'ry day.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 20 2010 04:24 GMT
#37
On August 20 2010 13:19 hofodomo wrote:
Hmm, I personally think you could have strung him along and played with him more. Also, doesn't the broadcast only go to RealID friends? You could still keep and friendslist and use it as a twitter.


True and true. But I don't play often. When I do I like to solo ladder. So if practice partners is what he wants I am not the guy. Plus he did real friend id me.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 04:33:50
August 20 2010 04:33 GMT
#38
Entertaining read. BS meter was off the charts.

Love these detective threads.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
slp-wingnut
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
September 15 2010 20:27 GMT
#39
lol
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 15 2010 20:46 GMT
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