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Hacker or Pro? You decide!

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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-01 16:05:06
August 19 2010 23:17 GMT
#1
So today I get two new friend requests from people's who's name I don't recognize and I accept. One comes online. Now since I use the SC2 broadcast system like a Twitter for top players I don't want just anyone to be on my /f l.

So I kindly ask the gentleman who he is:
You: whos this?

ZergSwarm: WC3 pro, now SC2
just looking for some practice

Now I get these all the time and 99.99% of the time i delete them and kindly explain I am not the right person for practice. But this one caught my eye. While I know the general scene in WC3 I will be the first to admit I know the mainstream WC3 guys like Moon for the most part and that's it. So being a tournament organizer I would love to grab a former WC3 pro and help get him started.

You: ahh im not a good practice partner. tt. i spend all my time organizing my events not actually playing. what was ur name in WC3?

ZergSwarm: TeRRoR.KhAoZ

So I google his name and it was at that moment I realized I had a TL blog that didn't suck in the making.

[image loading]
Time to blog bitches!


What I saw on the very second entry under this on google was headlined with "[Outdated] WUtil drophack [1.24c]"

I decide to venture into this thread and use CTRL+F (best feature ever) to find his name. The following was the post:

I just got banned from this stupid fake hack. My account leavinhere @ lordaeron / us west was 500 wins 80% on west wtf man . PROFILE IT IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME

WHY WOULD YOU GUYS POST FAKE HACKS. I HATE THIS

Last edited by TeRRoR.KhAoZ; 01-04-2010 at 03:38 AM.


Hmmmm. I'm no police detective but I am beginning to think this fine professional gamer was nothing more than a professional hacker (actually not even pro as quoted above).

So I whisper him back and he gives me a quick reply as detailed below:

You: o ok
right on
well u were a pro or hacker in wc3 inm confused?

ZergSwarm: pro
hacker?
wtf?

I post http://www.d3scene.com/forum/warcraft-3-hacks/35186-outdated-wutil-drophack-1-24c.html]the following link[/url].

The convo as follows goes:

ZergSwarm: no thats not me

You: [thycus voice]the internet never forgets brother[/thycus voice]

ZergSwarm: lol....
yaeh and im sure you can find people named grubby on that same forum sir

You: o ic

ZergSwarm: you see what?

You: so if ur popular enough to have people tryign to be you how come i can't seem to find anything about you besides ur pages on various forums?

ZergSwarm: i didnt play enough
but i was easily one of the top undeads in the US

You: what team did you play for?

ZergSwarm: i didnt play for a team
like i said i didnt play enough
didnt have enough time
when i did play, i got round 5 in ZOTAC


So by now my bs meter is off the charts. At this point he is basically a pro ladder player that is on no team. But he is popular enough for people to try and imitate his name (exact same way too) and post as him.

So I look through his google history a bit deeper (didn't take long). By page 2 there is his posts on a pron forum but it's already starting to pick up random sites that have nothing to do with him. So looking further into his posts I see he was getting extra SC2 beta keys and selling them for $100. Real pro

[image loading]
Because this post needs more pictures



SO this is the point where I'm deciding if I want to push it or just leave it here and he chimes in with this:

ZergSwarm: practiced with all the top players, such as Moon, Grubby, Yaws, ThomasG
i was famous on battle.net....
home of the hackers

Now yet again I'm no WC3 expert but I know this is a lie. Turns out a have a few people on my staff that know more than me about WC3 and it's playerbase so I grab my phone and inform him of the following:

You: Ok lemme text Joseki real quick and get his 2 cents

ZergSwarm: joseki?
who's that?

You: a very experienced wc3 caster
member of my staff
see i run iCCup TV

[image loading]
QUICK! To the Batphone!


Now due to the current tornado warning going on and the immanent loss of power it's time to make this post a little shorter than I had hope. Seriously the siren is going off right now! SHIT!

ZergSwarm: i was never casted on
he wont know me

You: than there is no way and hell that is not you in that post....

ZergSwarm: look you dont have to believe me

You: im just saying

ZergSwarm: ive never seen that forum in my life
the assumption i came to

You: raelcun dosent get ppl tkaing his name and he has tons of loyal fans

So at this point the guy is trying to mis-strew (is that a word?) what I'm saying...

ZergSwarm: you are not making any sense
anyway i added you because i thought you were someone else
good bye

You: lol peace hacker.

ZergSwarm: i dont hack
faggot

You: lol it's always good to beat someone so bad in a debate they have to go to insults. congrats sir

ZergSwarm: you beat me so bad
you are so right
by claiming i have thousands of fans
good job
repeat what i say more, sir
fuck off
regards,

You: I never said you have fans
I said Raelcun does
ur not Raelcun

ZergSwarm: im never heard of raelcun
after playing wc3 for 7 years
gg?

You: thats a shame son. u should know the lay of the land b4 u come claming to be a pro (i meant the SC2 lay of the land). and there is no ladder "pros".

ZergSwarm: i didnt say i was a ladder pro
wow you will be blocked and reported soon
stop contacting me

You: Alright. L8r d00d.

So TL hacker or pro player?

Poll: Well...?

Hacker (59)
 
92%

Skilled [Hacker] (5)
 
8%

64 total votes

Your vote: Well...?

(Vote): Hacker
(Vote): Skilled [Hacker]



Sorry to cut it short but
[image loading]
This might be outside my house


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Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ohaicami
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States103 Posts
August 19 2010 23:23 GMT
#2
You spent way more time on him than I would have. Great inter-tective work, though.
Appetitus Rationi Pareat - Cicero (Let your desires be ruled by reason.)
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10847 Posts
August 19 2010 23:25 GMT
#3
Sounds like a pro hacker to me ^^... lol @ the insults from anger=p
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
August 19 2010 23:28 GMT
#4
What a clown. That was a pretty entertaining read though.
Floophead_III
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 19 2010 23:29 GMT
#5
Props. Always good to see a retard rage at his own fail.
Half man, half bear, half pig.
Emtee
Profile Joined August 2010
58 Posts
August 19 2010 23:29 GMT
#6
I like how he says "Stop contacting me" when he contacted you first.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
August 19 2010 23:32 GMT
#7
I love how this blog is already on the first page of the google search result.
Translator:3
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
August 19 2010 23:33 GMT
#8
This is what you spend your time doing? No wonder you never play a game of SC2
Life is Good.
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
August 19 2010 23:34 GMT
#9
That kid fails, lmfao what are the fucking odds of someone having the same name as him?

TeRRoR.KhAoZ with caps included, the combinations is endless!!!

KIDS CRAAAZZZZY.

Good work diamond :D
Apink/Girl's Day/miss A/IU/Crayon Pop/Sistar/Exo K :D l Kpop and Kdrama Enthusiast
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
August 19 2010 23:35 GMT
#10
Rated 5/5 for giggles and EFFORT
DONATE SC2 BETA KEY TO ME PLEASE
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 19 2010 23:36 GMT
#11
haha good read. nice job destroying him.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 19 2010 23:37 GMT
#12
Ok so this is actually what is outside of my house.. Ruh roh.

Anyways I love that this is already on page 1 of google! lol
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
August 19 2010 23:59 GMT
#13
Though i like the intention of getting hackers, i don't think you are right. Maybe he is a hacker, maybe he's not.

In my opinion you were just being a douchebag.
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
August 20 2010 00:06 GMT
#14
Lol you destroyed him so hard.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 20 2010 00:07 GMT
#15
Not hacker, not pro... Just retard.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
drp223
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States170 Posts
August 20 2010 00:14 GMT
#16
Nice read but diamond do you live in Michigan.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
August 20 2010 00:19 GMT
#17
Now he will get hate pm from people...
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
August 20 2010 00:25 GMT
#18
wow
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
August 20 2010 00:30 GMT
#19
wow what a waste of time.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
August 20 2010 00:31 GMT
#20
that was so win ^^
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