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Also American popular music sucks.
I'm Over American Entertainment
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
Who's with me?! Also American popular music sucks. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
Mongolian sci fi movie featuring the wild beauty of the Great Steppe juxtaposed with massive Space Yurts as a backdrop, and the characters all own mechanical transforming eagles and shit. holy fuck | ||
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green.at
Austria1459 Posts
Also American popular music sucks most popular music does atm. mostly because the rest of the world copies american pop? | ||
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SleepSheep
Canada344 Posts
it won't change, the only thing we can do is support the indie artists | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
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fredd
Estonia256 Posts
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
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stroggos
New Zealand1543 Posts
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On August 19 2010 20:36 snotboogie wrote: Or maybe a Mongolian sci fi movie featuring the wild beauty of the Great Steppe juxtaposed with massive Space Yurts as a backdrop, and the characters all own mechanical transforming eagles and shit. Who's with me?! Also American popular music sucks. This is beyond awesome, you deserve an oscar for the idea alone. As for the topic, i'd say american entertainment is like teamliquid, it produces great stuff that gets drowend by a lot of crap but in the end it's still the best you get. Money is not that important, there needs to be a developed industry with many people involved who all profit from the large experience that the industry as a whole has. Tradition is the word i guess^^. I also dont think even an developed entertainment industry that isn't used to all the money could use it very well. A good idea has to come first, money probably broadens the possibilities but it would take some time for people getting used to naturally think of their ideas in this broadend space. In that sense i agree that it would really be interesting to see what the entertainment industries of some countries would produce that would have had access to american amounts of money for 20 years. | ||
riptide
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![[image loading]](http://stagevu.com/img/thumbnail/vasckkyjatwibig.jpg) Try some British entertainment. Some of the best writing I've seen on TV in a while. | ||
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Vinnesta
Singapore285 Posts
Of course there can still be the typical storyline of lost loves whom you meet again 10 years later, and the good guy disposing of the bad guy and takes the girl away. In fact, it'll be best if this all happens while the protagonist is about to answer the Million Dollar Question on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire"..... + Show Spoiler + Slumdog Millionaire, if you haven't figured out already :p Maybe there is demand from people like the OP, who want something set in a different culture/country, which can be attributed to the success of the movie. | ||
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SubtleArt
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pettter
Sweden1032 Posts
Please get up on the stage and accept your prize. I'd definitely watch that Mongolian sci-fi. No doubt about that. | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
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Emon_
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Check out "Departures" (2008), its an awesome Japanese movie dealing with the distant relationship modern people have with death. Its top100 on IMDB. Funny too. Check out Rotten tomatoes from time to time as well to see what new foreign film is out and give it a look. There are amazing movies out, but you have to search a bit to find them. The same with music. They don't bring in the money, but they are fantastic works of art. And when you find something nice, blog about it here so we can enjoy it as well. | ||
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Golden Ghost
Netherlands1041 Posts
On August 19 2010 20:36 snotboogie wrote: Or maybe a Mongolian sci fi movie featuring the wild beauty of the Great Steppe juxtaposed with massive Space Yurts as a backdrop, and the characters all own mechanical transforming eagles and shit. That would be Cowboys versus Aliens right? Only then with the cast of Mongol. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.j-lou.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lady-gaga-kermit.jpg) Srsly, Gaga and Katy Perry are good, but you cant love whats mainstream, right ? (Edit: the rest is shit tho', altho I can't say I have ever actually LISTENED to Bieber) I DO agree with movies tho', but there are alot of great movies made recently that were really awesome, most notably The Amazing Mr Fox | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
On August 19 2010 23:42 Emon_ wrote: They have been repeating themselves forever. Karate kid remake, a fourth pirates movie, another nobody releases an album. You should read No Logo by Naomi Klein, it deals a lot with the mindset behind the consumer culture. Once you know whats up it frees your mind to care about other things. Check out "Departures" (2008), its an awesome Japanese movie dealing with the distant relationship modern people have with death. Its top100 on IMDB. Funny too. Check out Rotten tomatoes from time to time as well to see what new foreign film is out and give it a look. There are amazing movies out, but you have to search a bit to find them. The same with music. They don't bring in the money, but they are fantastic works of art. And when you find something nice, blog about it here so we can enjoy it as well. Okuribito was such an amazing movie. Instant recommend. | ||
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
maybe a Mongolian sci fi movie featuring the wild beauty of the Great Steppe juxtaposed with massive Space Yurts as a backdrop, and the characters all own mechanical transforming eagles and shit. So warhammer 40k right? because it's got pretty much all of those, though I'm not sure the eagles transform | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 19 2010 23:50 Catch]22 wrote: Srsly, Gaga and Katy Perry are good, but you cant love whats mainstream, right ? (Edit: the rest is shit tho', altho I can't say I have ever actually LISTENED to Bieber) What the hell is wrong with you? | ||
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
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Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
Yeah how can you have not listened to Bieber? + Show Spoiler + I'm funny | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On August 20 2010 01:31 Chill wrote: Sometimes you realise that there isn't enough vomit in the world.What, have you watched Jersey Shore?!! | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
On August 20 2010 01:26 Hynda wrote: Watch the British! They know how to make proper television. Shows like Coupling (probably the best comedy show ever made), Peep Show, Jonathan Creek, Poirot and Sherlock Holmes with Jeremy Brett. I can not begin to explain how great that series is, Jeremy Brett puts on one of the best performances ever in any context. What's even sicker about the performance is that he is dying towards the end of the series and still puts on a flawless performance. you're literally on smack if you think uk tv is any good outside of a few shows sure, we might have a bunch of good comedies but there have been about 4 watchable dramas produced in the past decade in the uk. | ||
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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
Movies: Inception There Will Be Blood TV: The Wire (everyone watch this, seriously) Mad Men Six Feet Under Music: too many bands to name Its not all Jerry Bruckheimer and Everybody Loves Raymond, just do some research, I mean this isn't even indie obscure shit, its pretty mainstream American TV in particular is pretty good, I have watched plenty of foreign (Indian, Korean, Chinese) TV and my god most of it is absolute balls awful | ||
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
On August 19 2010 21:33 riptide wrote: + Show Spoiler + Try some British entertainment. Some of the best writing I've seen on TV in a while. I'm seconding this. One of my recent favorite shows. Although the first season is 3 episodes, each episode is about an hour and a half long. Well put-together show. | ||
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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Please let this be the new TL banner. Space Yurts. My god. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On August 20 2010 02:43 FieryBalrog wrote: Uh, there is a lot of good stuff buried out there in "American Entertainment" Movies: Inception There Will Be Blood TV: The Wire (everyone watch this, seriously) Mad Men Six Feet Under Music: too many bands to name Its not all Jerry Bruckheimer and Everybody Loves Raymond, just do some research, I mean this isn't even indie obscure shit, its pretty mainstream American TV in particular is pretty good, I have watched plenty of foreign (Indian, Korean, Chinese) TV and my god most of it is absolute balls awful Inception was great if you cut out the last minute of the movie i.e the horrible ending. One thing I never got was why Mad Men never really took off, now I don't know how big it is in the US but outside of it, it's placed on obscure places on obscure times. It's a shame because it's actually one of the few decent series out of America at the moment. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
And how many times do I have to see a book "brought to life" as a screenplay only for it to turn out that the director never read the book? :/ | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:05 Mortality wrote: The problem with American entertainment is that there seems to be a clear lack of talented script writers and an overabundance of directors who don't realize how much they suck, combined with a tendency of producers to engage in heavy executive meddling. And how many times do I have to see a book "brought to life" as a screenplay only for it to turn out that the director never read the book? :/ Sometimes it's the other way around, they read it way to much and everything they do is a tribute making it a mess. Read: Watchmen. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Hollywood hasn´t produced anything worth watching since the Governator retired from action films IMO. Also some british comedy is okay. Watch Black Books, it´s the best comedy series ever | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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mainerd
United States347 Posts
i wonder - if you gave a non-US studio/director hundreds of millions of dollars to make a film, where would all that money be spent anyway? isn't there really only one place to dump it, into special effects and/or famous actors, and at that point how different would it really be from american cinema? it would definitely be interesting to see different cultures takes on the big budget movie though. the only thing i can think of that is somewhat analogous is bollywood, which i don't really dig :D | ||
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
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NukeTheStars
United States277 Posts
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Revolt
United States288 Posts
zooey deschanel is so cute/hot!!!!! | ||
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Shauni
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On August 20 2010 02:43 FieryBalrog wrote: Uh, there is a lot of good stuff buried out there in "American Entertainment" Movies: Inception There Will Be Blood TV: The Wire (everyone watch this, seriously) Mad Men Six Feet Under Music: too many bands to name Its not all Jerry Bruckheimer and Everybody Loves Raymond, just do some research, I mean this isn't even indie obscure shit, its pretty mainstream American TV in particular is pretty good, I have watched plenty of foreign (Indian, Korean, Chinese) TV and my god most of it is absolute balls awful I don't think 'buried' is the appropriate word here... | ||
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Aquafresh
United States824 Posts
On August 20 2010 02:43 FieryBalrog wrote: Uh, there is a lot of good stuff buried out there in "American Entertainment" Movies: Inception There Will Be Blood TV: The Wire (everyone watch this, seriously) Mad Men Six Feet Under Music: too many bands to name Its not all Jerry Bruckheimer and Everybody Loves Raymond, just do some research, I mean this isn't even indie obscure shit, its pretty mainstream American TV in particular is pretty good, I have watched plenty of foreign (Indian, Korean, Chinese) TV and my god most of it is absolute balls awful Dude his name is "snotboogie" I'd be very surprised if he hadn't heard of The Wire. As far as the OP goes, there is shit entertainment everywhere. Everyone always assumes the grass is greener because all they hear about from other cultures is the stuff that's good enough to make its way onto their radar. For example lets say I finish watching "Spaced" and say holy crap UK TV must be way ahead of us! It's rare to see such a well written show on American television! Then you go through their lineup and its full of crap like "Demons." Same for some guy you get into "The Wire" or "Arrested Development", and he looks up some of the most popular shows in the US and is met by "Two and a Half Men" and "CSI." The point is that the good stuff is pretty rare in general. Although I will second Riptide and say there have been a pretty good string of comedy shows on BBC in recent years. so I'd check those out. "Spaced" in particular, especially if you're into Edgar Wrights style. Also Justin Bieber is Canadian. I swear if you guys subject us to another crappy pop culture phenomenon we're going to take another hockey team. | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
On August 19 2010 21:33 riptide wrote: + Show Spoiler + Try some British entertainment. Some of the best writing I've seen on TV in a while. /Highfive.. love that show First, I'd like to say that not all American stuff sucks. They make a lot, so by proportion a lot will suck. There's tons of quality shows/movies out there. That said, I absolutely agree and encourage seeing a wider range of entertainment. I think you'll find every thing has its strong and weak points, and there's going to be cliched, annoying or overdone themes everywhere. However, the good stuff you find will make it all worth it ! | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
edit: Why the hell did I click the quote button again. -.- | ||
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kaisr
Canada715 Posts
oops just read OP and posted, good to see there are others who recognize genius when they see it. | ||
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semantics
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On August 19 2010 20:56 Daimon wrote: welcome to the culture industry it won't change, the only thing we can do is support the indie artists Indie artists are too busy being pretentious to care about making anything good. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
On August 20 2010 02:43 FieryBalrog wrote: TV: The Wire (everyone watch this, seriously) Mad Men Six Feet Under I have watched The Wire 6 times through. It was its excellence that made me realize that everything else is shit. It was a true scales falling from the eyes moment. EDIT: LOL Bieber is Canadian? Damn that sucks. I have much love for Canada (Sarah McLachlan, Heather Nova <3)... sad to see your great country polluted with this nonsense | ||
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AlienAlias
United States324 Posts
I was thinking the same thing. | ||
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Golden Ghost
Netherlands1041 Posts
On August 19 2010 21:33 riptide wrote: + Show Spoiler + Try some British entertainment. Some of the best writing I've seen on TV in a while. Riptide I can't thank you enough for recommending this. I really loved it and am looking forward to the next season. Especially the swimmingpool scene was pure genius. | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
Chinese films are getting better, but the TV series here are still crap. | ||
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