EPTHelp me make up my mind TL!
Should I move out?
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kcaz
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Help me make up my mind TL! | ||
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goswser
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WiljushkA
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LittleMikeStarCraft
Canada120 Posts
But living on your own, is an amazing experience. It makes getting a girlfriend pretty easy too..  Where you from in Canada-- Could always live at my house. Hurhur. | ||
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dinmsab
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Yizuo
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emucxg
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intrudor
Canada446 Posts
without that...i'd woulda been wiser to stay...but right now...get the fuck out or renegotiate the deal. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On August 15 2010 02:06 emucxg wrote: I think the only problem is the food, can you make foods by yourself (real food, not pizza or anything shitty unhealthy), and do you have time to make food? Making cheap/healthy food doesn't take very much time at all, you can just eat a lot of raw vegetables and fruits, and chicken. Pasta is quick and easy too. OP: mooooove out! | ||
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ThePurist
Canada686 Posts
1. How much you have in your savings 2. How much your cash flow is 3. Job security 4. Housing/rental market price 5. Careful consideration of sub-factors - skills to live alone/roommate - doing housework non-stop after work - talking about moving out and whether or not they will support this notion - your ability to cook/eat properly - your life goals/ambitions | ||
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Bereft
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unit
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Eben
United States769 Posts
Something to note though, even if you do move out you will still spend plenty of your free time doing dishes, cleaning up, ect ect. I would move out | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On August 15 2010 02:08 JWD wrote: Making cheap/healthy food doesn't take very much time at all, you can just eat a lot of raw vegetables and fruits, and chicken. Pasta is quick and easy too. OP: mooooove out! Well, the only reason Im still living with my parent because I dont need to worry about food >.< call me lazy | ||
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LxRogue
United States1415 Posts
I dunno anything about CA rent, but $400 a month sounds like enough to pay rent on your own! And if they are making you do more work at home and always bothering you, there doesn't seem to be much upside to staying at home. | ||
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Laerties
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
It kinda seems as if they want you to get a move on, charging rent and all. Get some advice and get the ball rolling. | ||
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apm66
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Teejing
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Empyrean
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On August 15 2010 02:08 JWD wrote: Making cheap/healthy food doesn't take very much time at all, you can just eat a lot of raw vegetables and fruits, and chicken. Pasta is quick and easy too. OP: mooooove out! Use whole-grain pasta or brown rice if you can. Much more fiber and only a slightly more expensive cost. Much better for you. | ||
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intrudor
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Malgrif
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
i currently live @ home but for free.. if i had to pay i wouldnt. thats retarded. get the heck out man, | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On August 15 2010 02:22 Laerties wrote: Jesus, your paying $400 a month to live with your parents? If you have a car and a full time job get the hell outta there. Ya, this is a no brainer. Ge the hell out of there. You will be so happy you did. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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Enfold
United States110 Posts
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VTArlock
United States1763 Posts
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
On August 15 2010 02:54 TheComeback wrote: I moved out on my about 3 months ago, and its financially very hard. I live in a cheap area and its still difficult sometimes, my suggestions... Milk staying at home for all its worth. You dont realize how much there actually is to take care of until you do it. Waking up to find theres no toilet paper sucks...let mom and dad buy it for a bit longer. Be absolutely positive not to listen to this guy. (sorry this guy!) | ||
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micronesia
United States24600 Posts
On August 15 2010 02:54 TheComeback wrote: I moved out on my about 3 months ago, and its financially very hard. I live in a cheap area and its still difficult sometimes, my suggestions... Milk staying at home for all its worth. You dont realize how much there actually is to take care of until you do it. Waking up to find theres no toilet paper sucks...let mom and dad buy it for a bit longer. Definitely. I just moved out and have burned through thousands and thousands of dollars faster than you can imagine. It's going to much a much more expensive proposition than you can imagine. By the way, what do you do? Also, start doing research into options for moving out even if you aren't going to do it. Maybe report back on what typical rents are and what they include. | ||
IefNaij
Canada291 Posts
But honestly you're 18, I don't know too many 18 year olds who can take care of themselves, and what will happen if you lose your job, or something just as bad happens? Won't you be too embarrassed go crawling back to your parents? =/ | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
How much does it really cost you guys to live? The trick is, don't try to replicate your parents house in your new home, you can't do it!! Start your own style of life and just chill. I have a really close relationship with my parents, moved out at 18 for school and have never moved back, it's really great to have the time to yourself. | ||
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edahl
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Footymd
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kcaz
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KurtistheTurtle
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selboN
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kcaz
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Footymd
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
be honest. they want the best for you despite what it may seem. let them know you want to move on with your life, that the lifestyle you have right now just isn't working for you. But also make sure they know that just because you're moving out doesn't mean you're leaving their lives, and I'd suggest helping like an hour or two with stuff around their house (here and there) as a sign of good will. Don't ask them about it before you've done research and have papers, numbers, and phone #'s. Show them you're serious, prepared, you want to do it for yourself but are willing to take their help. I'd go even further and say take them out to dinner & present it there. Also, don't complain about your current conditions. If they wonder why you want to move and need a specific answer from you, tell them you don't like having to do yardwork on top of rent on top of jobs. But matter-of-factly, blame is on the yard always getting weeds or the upkeep--but not the parents. Tell them the goals and dreams you have that this is getting in the way of (in reason--playing sc2 professionally isnt gonna cut it unless your parents are really tight) It's your life. You're 18 and legally able to take control of it. The only thing blocking you is what you put up yourself. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
On August 15 2010 03:28 Footymd wrote: kcaz if i wasnt broke ass we could room together lol well then hook it up lol. you guys could be like the tl hub | ||
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ella_guru
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Chill
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
On August 15 2010 03:35 Chill wrote: I'd say no, but I don't know your plans for the future. That being said, if you are okay with moving out there's nothing wrong with having a discussion with your parents about giving you more freedom. The worst that's going to happen is they will tell you to move out, which you were prepared to do anyway. really? He's almost paying rent as well as doing a a shitload of chores, has the rule of his parents to follow, and is a young man ready to take the world by storm. googogog! | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
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johnlee
United States242 Posts
Or else move out. | ||
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JiYan
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
For comparison sake in Edmonton, my apt. is $1400/mo. market price, and you've seen how small this place is. | ||
LosingID8
CA10824 Posts
On August 15 2010 03:15 kcaz wrote: Well I take in around 1800 a month, have $150 a month car insurance payment and thats it. I'm just so tired of being hasseled whenever I'm home. And my parents don't need the money BTW. I've been trying to do some sketchy budget ideas but nothing down to the dollar. I've been looking at like some $750/mth places and some roommates but I'm still looking until I'm 100% sure. But to answer one of the q's I think I'll have my job for as long as I need it. But another question was, I don't think they can have me move out for how much I do, and I don't see them negoatiating. Does anyone have some suggestions on how I can move out without burning any bridges? sorry but $1800/month really isn't enough unless you plan on having a roommate at your new place. i don't know about you but where i am at right now you can't find a 1bdrm apartment for cheaper than around 800 a month. there are a LOT of costs that you wouldn't think of when you live with your parents. everything from toiletries to cleaning supplies, and 1-time things like buying a bunch of kitchen appliances, dishes, silverware, furniture, plus the regular payments such as groceries (a lot more expensive that you'd expect!), internet, phone, utilities, car, insurance etc. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
As for your parents, I think they are charging you and making you work not because they need to do it, but because they want you to experience what it's like to have to live on your own. I think they are doing it to encourage you to be independent. It's common for western families to want their children to move out once they hit 18. But before you make up your mind, you should probably talk with your parents and see what they think. | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
rent 700 bills 200 food 300 other stuff 200 1400, and I think that that is more of a "worst case' kind of thing. I think you should try and room with someone, it's generally more fun and places that arent solo are cheaper / better | ||
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Sephy90
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This might be a bad idea, but think about it. | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
On August 15 2010 04:15 Chairman Ray wrote: Next week my parents are coming over and we're going to be looking at some real estate, so I might be getting a new house. If so, you can move in with me. I'm looking for a TL roommate anyways since I'll be hosting a lot of TL meetups and stuff. I can cook for both of us as long as u drive to the grocery store. lol shit thats awesome lol. Where in canada is all this taking place?! | ||
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mikeymoo
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On August 15 2010 04:24 ella_guru wrote: lol shit thats awesome lol. Where in canada is all this taking place?! Edmonton. And I'll vouch for Ray as a roommate. | ||
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Chill
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On August 15 2010 03:39 ella_guru wrote: really? He's almost paying rent as well as doing a a shitload of chores, has the rule of his parents to follow, and is a young man ready to take the world by storm. googogog! I hate when I lay out my argument clearly and someone boils it down to shit. He's almost paying rent, will have to do those chores in his own house and will have to pay for food, utilities, insurance, transportation, etc. etc. It's a lot of money, especially if you're planning on going to school. | ||
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
On August 15 2010 04:27 Chill wrote: I hate when I lay out my argument clearly and someone boils it down to shit. He's almost paying rent, will have to do those chores in his own house and will have to pay for food, utilities, insurance, transportation, etc. etc. It's a lot of money, especially if you're planning on going to school. mmmm no yard work in an apartment and I'll retract my previous estimate, you're probably looking at 1200-1800 Zack. I forgot how bad insurance can be for an 18 year old male. | ||
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Chuiu
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HeyitsClay
Canada336 Posts
U could probably rent a room from someone for around $450 | ||
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Chill
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On August 15 2010 04:33 mikeymoo wrote: mmmm no yard work in an apartment and I'll retract my previous estimate, you're probably looking at 1200-1800 Zack. I forgot how bad insurance can be for an 18 year old male. You still have to do chores man. I live in an apartment and a lot of my weekly time is going to get groceries, dry cleaning, cleaning my house, my car, my clothes, my dishes, cooking, etc. | ||
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micronesia
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emperorchampion
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But. 10hrs/wk of house work?! That is a little over an hour a day- almost nothing. $400/month- that is about a quarter of what you will spend when you move out. I would say that if you are so uncertain about moving out that you need to ask for help, you shouldn't. If your parents are really that bad that you can't stand living there, then look elsewhere. Otherwise, I think you should stay, for now at least, to build up your funds a bit more. I find my parents are very obnoxious at times, then they are fine other times- this may be something that will pass. In any case, good luck! | ||
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Kwidowmaker
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Ndugu
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I am so much happier and accomplishing so much more. Parents are toxic. | ||
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ella_guru
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On August 15 2010 04:27 Chill wrote: I hate when I lay out my argument clearly and someone boils it down to shit. He's almost paying rent, will have to do those chores in his own house and will have to pay for food, utilities, insurance, transportation, etc. etc. It's a lot of money, especially if you're planning on going to school. Ah, for me it doesn't really feel like doing chores if you are doing it for yourself. And, not everything should be measured in monetary value (at least when it came for me to make this choice). I enjoy cleaning my own house ! Edit : I didn't mean to boil you down to shit : ( ( ( | ||
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Uranium
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On August 15 2010 05:02 Ndugu wrote: Moving out has been the best decision of my entire life. I am so much happier and accomplishing so much more. Parents are toxic. I couldn't agree more. OP definitely has enough money and he's 18 so wtf not. Besides your parents are charging you anyway. Find a cheap apartment with a decent roommate or two and you will be fine. (personal: I moved out when I was 16 (graduated early), and it was totally worth it. My parents told me I was going to fail, but I proved them wrong  ) Just make sure you keep that full-time job! | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
Even tho I love beeing at home (in my holidays for a week or two) and have the most awesome relationship to my parents (going to movies/play games with my father and stuff) moving out was still the best thing. Really, once you move out you will never go back,. | ||
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Versita
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MetalMarine
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Craton
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On August 15 2010 02:22 Laerties wrote: Jesus, your paying $400 a month to live with your parents? If you have a car and a full time job get the hell outta there. Pretty much this. The only reason to stay with your parents is to save up money for college or to move out. They're making it incapable to do that, so leave. | ||
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geometryb
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Severedevil
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On August 15 2010 05:03 ella_guru wrote: Ah, for me it doesn't really feel like doing chores if you are doing it for yourself. And, not everything should be measured in monetary value (at least when it came for me to make this choice). I enjoy cleaning my own house ! Indeed. It's particularly annoying to have responsibilities for the place you live, but no control. | ||
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LaSt)ChAnCe
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Belano
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Yotta
United States270 Posts
I currently live in a 3-bedroom, 1-bathroom house with 4 friends and I pay $325/month (plus around $50/month for utilities (gas/electric and cable) and $100/month for food). I would never dream of moving back in with my parents, especially under the conditions you currently have. Independence is a lot of responsibility, but being able to live in your own house without your parents controlling/judging you every second of every day is as good as it sounds  | ||
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Piy
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KTF_CloaK
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Kashll
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On August 15 2010 02:38 PhiliBiRD wrote: $400 to live at your parents, holy shit i would NEVER do that. i currently live @ home but for free.. if i had to pay i wouldnt. thats retarded. get the heck out man, Seriously, $400 a month to live with your parents is fucking insane. If you're paying, then they shouldn't really be hassling you at all. Get out of there, and find a cheap place to live (or get a roommate). | ||
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HeavOnEarth
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LastWish
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You'll never regret that. | ||
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floor exercise
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On August 15 2010 08:05 mikku wrote: You should really stay at home and save as long as possible. Until your parents move out is preferable Turn it into a battle of wills. You have youth and vitality on your side | ||
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MacroNcheesE
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On August 15 2010 06:38 Piy wrote: Your parents are charging you $400 a month? In rent? That's pretty shitty tbh, not far off actual rent prices. Move out and don't visit for a year. Can people stop saying this? I mean, mikeymoo lives in Edmonton, Chill lives in Calgary, a neighbouring city and they have already told people that the $400 is not close to rent. Especially for the type of house kcaz lives in. That $400 includes food, water, electricity, heat, it's not a lot of money. I also lived in Calgary and I was paying $400 rent myself living with my parents while I was working and it was totally reasonable. | ||
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lac29
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ella_guru
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On August 15 2010 10:16 lac29 wrote: How about negotiate the rent or chores down a bit? Funk that, just move out! | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
It depends how big the interruptions + chores are killing your productivity (or whatever), and if thats worth the extra money to you. It sounds like you are OK financially to do either one, it'll depend on your priorities. | ||
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Empyrean
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micronesia
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Snet
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Do what is practical and makes sense. Never move out on emotional feelings. Make sure you have enough money saved up as well. | ||
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news
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On August 15 2010 02:12 Bereft wrote: your parents charge you to stay in their home? is this a common practice in canada o_O? and the decision to move out depends on your own personal relationship with them, which is what only you can properly assess... if what you're asking us to assess though is the opportunity cost, i'd say 400$ is cheap, but i stay in nyc and rent is ~$1k per month This is a common practice in the US for sure, Canada probably isn't even close in this regard. | ||
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news
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Food: depends on what you like, if you are pretty much trying to eat what you want it wouldn't cost you more than 100$/week, unless you fancy caviar with champagne like mikeymoo does. 100$ allows you to cook at home plus eat out occasionally. I mean, if you eat out 7 days a week (or do takeouts) it's only ~80$, you still have 80$ a month to stock on rice, raisin bran, milk, water, etc. But why would you not cook for yourself, it's definitely cheaper. Rent: you can always find a place at around 500-550$/mo with at least something included (like electricity or cable), either rent a room or find a roommate. Living with a roommate(-s) is an important experience that everyone should have. You don't need your own apartment just yet. Utilities: no more than 250$/mo. If you luck out with the place/try to not have every gadget on at all times it will be less, around 200$. Phone and insurance: 110-120$$? Furniture: a mattress, a table and a chair, craiglist it or borrow somewhere. Well, I guess you can just buy it at the store if you really want to. You should be able to manage around 1000-1100$/mo, you have about 700$ left for toilet paper, shampoo, toothpaste, tanning lotion, condoms and cool shirts. Worth a try, one thing you have to know - your life will spin out of control if you let yourself go because no one will be around to spank you. Just try to do your chores on time, cleaning up once in 2 weeks is plenty. | ||
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