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Starting to play BW again

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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
August 13 2010 23:42 GMT
#1
After a few years without playing BW(started to study, took up most of my time), I'm going to start playing again. I play protoss. Even though I started playing SC when it came out, I've never been a good player, but now I want to learn it better. To do this, I need your help!

This is what I need:
1. A build that works fine against the current most used terran build
2. A build that works fine against the current most used zerg build
3. A build that works fine against the current most used protoss build
4. A practice partner on Bnet or iCCup.

I've seen many builds on Liquipedia, but I just don't know which one to choose. Also, any other tips/help is very much appreciated!



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rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
August 13 2010 23:44 GMT
#2
If you want to find a lot of good builds just go on liquipedia, there are hundreds of strategies there.
KT Flash// WhiteRa/Scarlett/Naniwa/MC/Huk/Nony
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
August 13 2010 23:53 GMT
#3
I know, but as I said, I don't know which one to choose.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
August 13 2010 23:53 GMT
#4
On August 14 2010 08:44 FlashIsHigh wrote:
If you want to find a lot of good builds just go on liquipedia, there are hundreds of strategies there.


Did you read the OP
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Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
August 13 2010 23:55 GMT
#5
On August 14 2010 08:53 Ares[EffOrt] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 08:44 FlashIsHigh wrote:
If you want to find a lot of good builds just go on liquipedia, there are hundreds of strategies there.


Did you read the OP


lots of people ask questions like the OP did, its easier to tell them to liquidpedia so they A) Know where to get more information B) get the exact right build order and C) Get even better tips/content.
Considering learning BW
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
August 14 2010 00:02 GMT
#6
But he already knows about liquipedia, he is asking for most commonly used builds that work against most openers, like personal experience and stuff.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
August 14 2010 00:04 GMT
#7
Add me on ICC and don't be afraid to say hello when you see me on. My name is OmniEulogy (clearly lol) and I've just started to play again as well. I'm also a Protoss user. Hope we can help eachother out. Welcome back to the game ^^
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ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
August 14 2010 00:06 GMT
#8
On August 14 2010 08:42 aPsychonaut wrote:
After a few years without playing BW(started to study, took up most of my time), I'm going to start playing again. I play protoss. Even though I started playing SC when it came out, I've never been a good player, but now I want to learn it better. To do this, I need your help!

This is what I need:
1. A build that works fine against the current most used terran build
2. A build that works fine against the current most used zerg build
3. A build that works fine against the current most used protoss build
4. A practice partner on Bnet or iCCup.

I've seen many builds on Liquipedia, but I just don't know which one to choose. Also, any other tips/help is very much appreciated!


I love Psychonauts.

1. 1 Gate Core [http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/One_Gateway_Cybernetics_Core]
2. Forge Fast Expand [http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Protoss_FE_%28vs._Zerg%29]
3. 2 Gate [http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2_Gate_%28vs._Protoss%29]
4.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
shadesofkarma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Romania708 Posts
August 14 2010 00:34 GMT
#9
1. DT Drop
2. +1 Zeal/Archon
3. 4 Gate Goon
4. spam "practice part msg me P" in ladder D channel
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
August 14 2010 00:39 GMT
#10
why would u want to play bw when sc2 is out -.-.

I didnt play protoss but 1gate core into reavers was pretty fun in pvt and you want to pratice the fastepand vs zerg.
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
August 14 2010 00:41 GMT
#11
i think 2 gate goon is the standard safe build, though many are going for something a bit faster expo because of the large maps.

I'll play with you!


ella_guru on iccup. we can plan a time or something or just catch me when im on
Each day gets better : )
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 00:49:51
August 14 2010 00:46 GMT
#12
use liquiepdia

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Main_Page

On August 14 2010 09:34 shadesofkarma wrote:
1. DT Drop
2. +1 Zeal/Archon
3. 4 Gate Goon
4. spam "practice part msg me P" in ladder D channel


Please please please don't listen to this guy
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
August 14 2010 00:51 GMT
#13
On August 14 2010 09:34 shadesofkarma wrote:
1. DT Drop
2. +1 Zeal/Archon
3. 4 Gate Goon
4. spam "practice part msg me P" in ladder D channel



You will probably reach a high rank with these strats....

>_<
Each day gets better : )
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
August 14 2010 00:53 GMT
#14
On August 14 2010 09:34 shadesofkarma wrote:
1. DT Drop
2. +1 Zeal/Archon
3. 4 Gate Goon
4. spam "practice part msg me P" in ladder D channel

If you dont want to be garbage dont do this :/
shadesofkarma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Romania708 Posts
August 14 2010 01:47 GMT
#15
On August 14 2010 09:46 SubtleArt wrote:
use liquiepdia

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Main_Page

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On August 14 2010 09:34 shadesofkarma wrote:
1. DT Drop
2. +1 Zeal/Archon
3. 4 Gate Goon
4. spam "practice part msg me P" in ladder D channel


Please please please don't listen to this guy


Did you even read his post before posting?

I've seen many builds on Liquipedia, but I just don't know which one to choose. Also, any other tips/help is very much appreciated!


I have no idea you would post "use liquiepdia" to someone new who knows builds but is overwhelmed and doesn't know which one to pick.

And as far as I know my recommended builds are perfectly fine for his request for builds "build that works fine against the current most used builds".
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
August 14 2010 01:53 GMT
#16
1. 1gate core -> 2gate goon expand
2. forge FE into (sair DT or archons)
3. 2gate reaver
4. hit me up, ID: hp.shell
I'm probably at a skill level of 1100 or so, just barely above D-. I play P, so I'd be a PvP pp.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 14 2010 02:07 GMT
#17
vT: 10/15gate -> 2base arbiter or fast third
vZ: Forge expand -> gateway units + storm, I dunno I've never played P
vP: 2gate robo -> push/harass + expand -> macro

:)
trevabob
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom350 Posts
August 14 2010 18:01 GMT
#18
On August 14 2010 09:39 Tabbris wrote:
why would u want to play bw when sc2 is out -.-.


I just threw up in my mouth a little


OP - I'm planning on starting BW soon as Terran - trevabob on Iccup - I'll give you a game or two sometime, probably resulting in confidence boosting wins for you :p
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 14 2010 18:23 GMT
#19
On August 14 2010 10:47 shadesofkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 09:46 SubtleArt wrote:
use liquiepdia

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Main_Page

On August 14 2010 09:34 shadesofkarma wrote:
1. DT Drop
2. +1 Zeal/Archon
3. 4 Gate Goon
4. spam "practice part msg me P" in ladder D channel


Please please please don't listen to this guy


Did you even read his post before posting?

Show nested quote +
I've seen many builds on Liquipedia, but I just don't know which one to choose. Also, any other tips/help is very much appreciated!


I have no idea you would post "use liquiepdia" to someone new who knows builds but is overwhelmed and doesn't know which one to pick.

And as far as I know my recommended builds are perfectly fine for his request for builds "build that works fine against the current most used builds".


I did, and I'm repeating it again cause theres no reason he can't find which build to use. Every common build on liquipedia has a really nice description, he's just being lazy
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
vlaric
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 18:57:37
August 14 2010 18:55 GMT
#20
1. proxy 2gate
2. cannon behind nat mins
3. proxy 2 gate
4. can't help you here

just kidding

On August 14 2010 11:07 synapse wrote:
vT: 10/15gate -> 2base arbiter or fast third
vZ: Forge expand -> gateway units + storm, I dunno I've never played P
vP: 2gate robo -> push/harass + expand -> macro



this looks pretty good, except for vZ i would recommend learning:
-forge FE-> +1 zlot/ht, movie build, and sair/reaver (in that order)
Wannabe zerg player
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 14 2010 19:44 GMT
#21
center 9/9 gate works well in all match ups xD

In PvT, 2 Gate goon is a good safe build to work with, much easier to hold off 2 Fact rushes and your economy will still be decent. Just remember to keep expanding and making workers, while you build up your Dragoon/Zealot/Arbiter army. Don't forget upgrades.

PvZ, 4 Gate 2 Archon is a very good solid build to work with, but scouting is basically the most important thing in early-game PvZ. If Zerg gets an early gas, make 2 cannons before expo. No third hatch, then you better put up some cannons to defend the cheese. 12 Hatch or Pool, you can make Nexus before Forge, and early Hydras usually indicates the damned 3 Hatch Hydra rush. 3 Hatch before Pool, you could try a cannon rush lol.

PvP, depends on the map. On rampless maps like Fortress, 2 gate Zealot will be prevalent and you must match Zealot numbers w/ the other player unless you have awesome micro. Long rush distance maps, Forge FE, DT Forge Expo and 1 Gate Core Expo will be more common. Otherwise on a standard map like Fighting Spirit, 1 Gate Range Obs/Reaver will be pretty much the standard build.
Writerptrk
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
August 14 2010 20:52 GMT
#22
Thanks people, I will look into this information and start practicing when my vacation starts! I won't spend that much time playing though, as my main focus will be on SC2!
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