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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 30 2010 08:37 GMT
#81
On July 30 2010 16:48 superbabosheki wrote:
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On July 30 2010 14:27 Malgrif wrote:
first, people complain about how it's too easy to get placed in diamond. now people complain about how it's impossible to advance. lololol

Uhmm.. the only people I get placed against are DIAMOND people after my 7th win or so. Now I have 500+ points in plat with over a 75% rin rate, playing DIAMOND people and I'm still stuck in plat.

Oh and incontrol I just beat you on the ladder with imba ghosts ^_^ and got raped one game later!

yeah, alright platy
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1438 Posts
July 30 2010 09:24 GMT
#82
On July 30 2010 14:52 Entropic wrote:
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On July 30 2010 14:27 Malgrif wrote:
first, people complain about how it's too easy to get placed in diamond. now people complain about how it's impossible to advance. lololol


Pretty sure it's like that with everything. Beginning of beta, mech is not viable, later in beta mech is op.



To be fair, mech was significantly buffed during beta.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 30 2010 11:14 GMT
#83
On July 30 2010 04:46 deo1 wrote:
I'm confused by how they determine the rankings as well. I placed into Gold but after a couple of days (with a record of about 15-10) I moved straight to Diamond--skipped Plat all together.

However, I was looking at the ladder last night and IdrA was #1 in his Platinum division with a record of 27-1. Yes. 27 wins and 1 loss. The only loss was clearly a dropped game (just a few seconds long) to LzGaMeR (I see that others have observed this as well). I really can't imagine what they use to determine Diamond.

Elo.
APM.
# of games played.
High income/low resources unused.
# of drones made lol. the list could go on. Though i think whoever said there is a minimum loss requirement is probably correct.

Any and all of these would be better by players like Incontrol and IdrA. Again, I have no idea what they use to determine this.

That video was hilarious btw.


more likely thrown game imo
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
zTz
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States476 Posts
July 30 2010 16:28 GMT
#84
On July 30 2010 02:46 CauthonLuck wrote:
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On July 30 2010 02:32 zTz wrote:
Blizzard already commented on the ladder system and how it places in there community chat ('the transcript is somewhere on TL), it takes about 35'games to know where you belong



Nope, the ladder system has some silly built in minimum loss requirement before it will evaluate you for division switches. It was the same way in beta, I remember being like 50-4 and stuck in platinum, then losing 4 out of 5 games and being promoted to diamond. I thought I was just bugged at first, but I saw multiple friends who would go to 30-2 or some such and not get promoted, while others would get bumped up with 15-9 records.

Seems like they left it in for release since some players like Idra/Moonglade aren't being promoted with 30+ wins against 0/1 losses. From what I can tell, the magic arbitrary number is 8 losses, I guarantee you'll be moved up within a few games of your next loss, since you have 7.


Ahh looks like your right, thanks for clarifying. I recall being stuck in a subdivision and after a few consecutive losses being promoted
where's the rants n flames section?
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 30 2010 16:39 GMT
#85
On July 30 2010 02:46 CauthonLuck wrote:
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On July 30 2010 02:32 zTz wrote:
Blizzard already commented on the ladder system and how it places in there community chat ('the transcript is somewhere on TL), it takes about 35'games to know where you belong



Nope, the ladder system has some silly built in minimum loss requirement before it will evaluate you for division switches. It was the same way in beta, I remember being like 50-4 and stuck in platinum, then losing 4 out of 5 games and being promoted to diamond. I thought I was just bugged at first, but I saw multiple friends who would go to 30-2 or some such and not get promoted, while others would get bumped up with 15-9 records.

Seems like they left it in for release since some players like Idra/Moonglade aren't being promoted with 30+ wins against 0/1 losses. From what I can tell, the magic arbitrary number is 8 losses, I guarantee you'll be moved up within a few games of your next loss, since you have 7.

7 did it for me, and theres a couple other people in diamond with 7 losses.
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rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
July 30 2010 16:54 GMT
#86
BratOk is 38-7 848 in my division...

[image loading]
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 30 2010 17:21 GMT
#87
New Thread: "Why is InControl in Diamond?"

jk jk dont kill me :O
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 30 2010 17:28 GMT
#88
I lol'd pretty hard! Thanks Psyonic!
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TimmyMac
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada499 Posts
July 30 2010 23:54 GMT
#89
On July 29 2010 18:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
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On July 29 2010 18:06 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On July 29 2010 18:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On July 29 2010 18:00 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Well I was stuck in his division as well until I played my 39th game. It is possible that the AMM is matching him up with only weaker or unknown players more than normal and it hasn't decided to move him up based on not enough information.

His record was like 19-10 or something when I moved up.


My record is 33-7 atm o-O?

yea, well I moved up earlier today and my power went out for a few hours. Didn't keep track of your record very well.


What can be learned here charlie? Don't talk about things when you have 0 idea right? I think the premise for your post was my record "wasn't that good" or something but that again was something you'd have to have made up or have a really high standard for.

Well judging from an 8-second read of his post, the premise was that the matchmaker didn't have enough information of your matches against good players, and nothing about your record.
AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
August 01 2010 00:41 GMT
#90
On July 31 2010 01:54 rapture wrote:
BratOk is 38-7 848 in my division...

[image loading]


StrifeCro is the same hes 38-9 and 855 and still in plat o.O
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 01 2010 00:56 GMT
#91
On July 31 2010 08:54 TimmyMac wrote:
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On July 29 2010 18:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On July 29 2010 18:06 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On July 29 2010 18:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On July 29 2010 18:00 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Well I was stuck in his division as well until I played my 39th game. It is possible that the AMM is matching him up with only weaker or unknown players more than normal and it hasn't decided to move him up based on not enough information.

His record was like 19-10 or something when I moved up.


My record is 33-7 atm o-O?

yea, well I moved up earlier today and my power went out for a few hours. Didn't keep track of your record very well.


What can be learned here charlie? Don't talk about things when you have 0 idea right? I think the premise for your post was my record "wasn't that good" or something but that again was something you'd have to have made up or have a really high standard for.

Well judging from an 8-second read of his post, the premise was that the matchmaker didn't have enough information of your matches against good players, and nothing about your record.


Give it 16 seconds on your second try plz. You might catch the 3rd line in his post. It's the one after the space.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
August 01 2010 03:21 GMT
#92
The system is really weird, how can Incontrol still be in platinum when there are idiot players that can't defend my first void ray in diamond.
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
August 01 2010 04:43 GMT
#93
On August 01 2010 12:21 OreoBoi wrote:
The system is really weird, how can Incontrol still be in platinum when there are idiot players that can't defend my first void ray in diamond.

what makes you think he can? =D
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
bakedace
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States672 Posts
August 01 2010 09:09 GMT
#94
yeah thats wierd because I usually get moved up quickly. In beta I got moved from gold to diamond.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
August 02 2010 08:44 GMT
#95
hahaha wow that was fucking hilarious. Thanks a ton for posting this.
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
August 02 2010 09:44 GMT
#96
grats getting into diamond incontrol!
Splunge
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 09:54:00
August 02 2010 09:51 GMT
#97
with how much points you moved up incontrol?
this guy(Ownage) in my platinum division has 1096 wit 49 - 0 wins Oo
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
August 02 2010 10:00 GMT
#98
On August 02 2010 18:51 Devanthar wrote:
with how much points you moved up incontrol?
this guy(Ownage) in my platinum division has 1096 wit 49 - 0 wins Oo

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=140404
it's a dischack account
i've got over 900pts and still in plat btw
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iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
August 02 2010 15:34 GMT
#99
My stomach hurt from laughing ahhhhh thank you guys so much.
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
February 24 2013 21:59 GMT
#100
Gem from the past, hahahahaha
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
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