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United States24813 Posts
On July 15 2010 11:00 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
yeah that sounds like it would put me in a world of hurt lol.
Micronesia since you seem to be the sleep expert here, what would you recommend I do to get my sleep schedule adjusted for this new job? I have until Monday (19th) to get rdy for a 4:30 waking time, atm ive been going to bed between 1am and 4am and waking up around noon unless i set an alarm.
Current options im thinking about: set alarm for 9am or something tonight, then in a couple days set for 6am, then 4:30am. Sleep an hour earlier each night.
or....set alarm really early right away, and then keep that wakeup time while going to bed when tired, which should be progressively earlier.
Thoughts? other options?
thnx for input so far guys
Really, it comes down to what works for you. Of those two suggestions you made, which one is more likely to work? Do that one.
What works for me is to make sure I come up with a system that makes it difficult for me to oversleep. Loud alarm on other side of the room, not allowed to go back to bad. If you are freaking tired all day as a result, go to bed early. If this is difficult for you it is most likely a psychological issue which you might be able to deal with by taking the advice I put in the guide I mentioned earlier. It's lengthy but on the bright side it can put you to sleep if nothing else.
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Canada2480 Posts
it really depends on your metabolism
I for example need between 5 and 7 hours of sleep every night. (Anyone can survive under 5 hours here?)
one of my friends needs from 8 to 10.
also I personally prefer to sleep in the morning and stay awake later... other people might feel tired at 10 PM and wake up at 6 AM.
everyone is different in terms of sleep schedule.
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Polyphasic sleep doesn't really work.
Cutting sleep is bad for your health.
Get as much sleep as you can at night, and take naps as much as you can. Obviously, if you could drop soccer or switch job hours that would probably be optimal... but it may take a while before each of those becomes an option.
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Stay up as long as possible.. maybe 36+ hours and then go to sleep and then go to bed at 9 or 10pm and set alarm to 0430. Then follow normal schedule.
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United States24813 Posts
On July 15 2010 13:17 Tenryu wrote:
Stay up as long as possible.. maybe 36+ hours and then go to sleep and then go to bed at 9 or 10pm and set alarm to 0430. Then follow normal schedule.
I've done this a bunch of times a while ago as an alternate solution. I find if you are going to do it then you are better off crashing at 3pm then staying up till a planned 7pm sleep time, getting a second wind and going to bed at midnight... cause then you won't get up for sure. Still, definitely allot yourself more time than in the quoted example... give yourself 12 hours of sleep if you stayed up a really long time imo :3
edit: this is experiential advice rather than based on my sleep research fyi
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 15 2010 11:18 swanized wrote:
(Anyone can survive under 5 hours here?)
I got somewhere between 2 and 3 a night last week. And I was waking up without an alarm clock. Heck, I only had about 4 earlier today (working nights at the moment), and I was trying to sleep more..... What I need to do is; once a week, I need to crash for 12+ hrs, then I'm good for another week of having little sleep each night. It's awesome for those crunch times in Uni. Downside is that I don't dream, or if I do, I can't remember them.....
I can't offer you any suggestions..... Sorry.....
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Yeh its more experiential advice. I do this from time to time and it works fine for me. My example was just a example, he can change times to whenever he wants if he plans on doing this. This strategy works well for the whole switching timezones as well.
Edit: although the whole timezone changing is a different topic 
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LOL, *drink* with your teammates after playing soccer. Alex, you make me laugh out loud. My suggestion is doing power naps instead of doing your fucking chores all the time. Or, decrease the time you spend in your bathroom.
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On July 15 2010 13:35 Tenryu wrote:Yeh its more experiential advice. I do this from time to time and it works fine for me. My example was just a example, he can change times to whenever he wants if he plans on doing this. This strategy works well for the whole switching timezones as well. Edit: although the whole timezone changing is a different topic
Interestingly enough, I read somewhere that a great way to change timezones is to fast. Apparently if you fast for ~24 hours, and then eat your first meal when breakfast should be in your new timezone, your internal clock will reset itself extremely quickly. Not that I've tried it or can pull out a reputable source.
Oh, and for the OP, eat when you wake up. I don't know if you were planning to already (hopefully), but it helps. Some carbs in the morning.
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On July 15 2010 14:16 YoonHo wrote:
LOL, *drink* with your teammates after playing soccer. Alex, you make me laugh out loud. My suggestion is doing power naps instead of doing your fucking chores all the time. Or, decrease the time you spend in your bathroom.
fuck u steve, go back to your slave labour convenience store job
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I used to be a relief teacher at a school miles from my home (by Singapore standards) and school here starts at 7:30am.
I would sleep late and then blatantly sleep in my chair in the staffroom during free periods.
Looking back, I would still sleep blatantly in my chair in the staffroom during free periods, but I would probably get used to sleeping early as well. Sleep is important to me, and the older I get, the more I realise that.
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I would advice you to set the alarm about 30 mins earlier each day (and going to bed earlier with the same amount). That way your body can adjust itself to the new schedule without to big of a shock. This always works for me at least.
After you have been on your work schedule for a couple of weeks you won't know any better and start automatically waking up early even in the weekends when you don't set your alarm. Even after going out the night before.
Also when I have had a short night I just love it to take a nap in the afternoon. Most naps will be between 20 and 40 minutes and will really refresh you.
So yes you can get out with the boys to go drinking or whatever just not everyday. And you probably want to take a nap after work. Don't worry about planning your nap to much. Your body will let you know what it wants all by itself
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United States24813 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:37 Golden Ghost wrote:
After you have been on your work schedule for a couple of weeks you won't know any better and start automatically waking up early even in the weekends when you don't set your alarm. Even after going out the night before.
Perhaps for you this takes a couple of weeks. For me it took many months and for some people it might even take longer to be able to get up at a reasonable time... D:
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Last semester, I had 8:30 morning classes every weekday, and I found that I got the most stuff done by sleeping in the afternoon and evening.
7:30AM breakfast
8:30AM to 2 or 3 PM classes and lunch or late lunch
3:30PM to 11PM sleep
11PM wake up and eat and hang out with people
3AM to 7:30AM homework, studying, gaming
or I might wake up earlier (like 7 or 8PM) to eat and go out with people, but take a nap some time in the morning before class.
For you, I think it'd be best to take a nap. Go to bed at midnight or 1AM. Wake up at 5AM for your job. Take a 2 hour nap in the afternoon. Wake up, do stuff, soccer, hang out, whatever. Go to bed at midnight/1AM and repeat.
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On July 15 2010 20:37 Golden Ghost wrote:I would advice you to set the alarm about 30 mins earlier each day (and going to bed earlier with the same amount). That way your body can adjust itself to the new schedule without to big of a shock. This always works for me at least. After you have been on your work schedule for a couple of weeks you won't know any better and start automatically waking up early even in the weekends when you don't set your alarm. Even after going out the night before. Also when I have had a short night I just love it to take a nap in the afternoon. Most naps will be between 20 and 40 minutes and will really refresh you. So yes you can get out with the boys to go drinking or whatever just not everyday. And you probably want to take a nap after work. Don't worry about planning your nap to much. Your body will let you know what it wants all by itself
hmm ya, i would do that 30 min thing if i had time but i only have a few days to adjust to a difference of about 9 hours between waking times.
last night i decided to go out again because im a dumbass, and slept till 12:30. Fuck me.
going to sleep soon as i get back from soccer tonight, and set alarm for 8am.
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nap after and coffee later. most of your friends will work sane hours, so you wont miss much by napping from like 11-1
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I got more suggestions, quit BW, you're never gonna be better than me anyways. Or, quit soccer, you're a bench-warmer, you're just wasting your time.
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i think some1s asking to get banned from my blogs lol
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