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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11577 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 20:33:38
July 12 2010 19:03 GMT
#1


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Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
July 12 2010 19:12 GMT
#2
That's the book that was used for my French 1A-1B-2A classes @ community college ^^ Hope the online resources help...

Also you could buy the 3rd edition on amazon for like 30 bucks which is way cheaper than their $120 bullshit for the 4th edition, and the craziness it would cost for the 5th considering they have almost the same content...

http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/0073535427/information_center_view0/
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kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
July 12 2010 19:26 GMT
#3
I lived in France for 2 years, and I'd still be fluent if I hadn't hated the language with a passion. You aren't going to learn "conversational french" from a book, because a fair amount of the 'correct' grammar rules are just dropped or used inventively in normal speech.

And how near a future are we talking, because properly learning a language through a course is like 6 months of work to get even passably good at the language.
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
July 12 2010 19:33 GMT
#4
Depend what French you wanan Learn. France french is different from Quebec French.
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Atom Cannister
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Germany380 Posts
July 12 2010 19:36 GMT
#5
Search for Michel Thomas. That will do wonders for you
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Groslouser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France337 Posts
July 12 2010 19:37 GMT
#6
not that much. just one or two words here and there, and some accent.

Anyway how much time do you have in front of you op? And do you have any basis to work on?
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 19:43:23
July 12 2010 19:42 GMT
#7
On July 13 2010 04:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
Depend what French you wanan Learn. France french is different from Quebec French.


It speak different but it's still the same words.

French is a really hard language to learn because every word has a gender.

If you want to learn I would recommend the tiny travellers books with premade phrases like :

"What direction is the restaurant"

"Where can I find a bus station"


These things will actually help you while being there. If you start with the basic and take a course, you will be no good and you wont uses any of this.

If you want to Skype to practice and play sc2 pm me.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 12 2010 19:53 GMT
#8
why? go to germany much better, or spain or any other place ^_^
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 12 2010 19:55 GMT
#9
I speak French and I keep meeting people who have taken 2-3 or even 4 years of French and school, and now they barely remember any of it.

If you want to actually speak the language you'll need to really work hard at it, and even then you'll always screw up with the gender of nouns which you just have to know because there's no "rule" to determine it. If you speak a lot of it you'll eventually know them but yeah...
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Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
July 12 2010 20:05 GMT
#10
Yeah, I'm French, and French pretty much sucks as a language. The genders for objects make no logical sense whatsoever and it's pretty much the same situation for the verb conjugations. Also, stupid exceptions are pretty much everywhere. Good luck!

Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 20:12:31
July 12 2010 20:11 GMT
#11
On July 13 2010 04:53 StorrZerg wrote:
why? go to germany much better, or spain or any other place ^_^

LOL u kiddin
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 12 2010 20:36 GMT
#12
On July 13 2010 04:53 StorrZerg wrote:
why? go to germany much better, or spain or any other place ^_^
Because he is of French origin u noob.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 20:47:11
July 12 2010 20:45 GMT
#13
I have a few months in front of me, I haven't made any actual plans yet, just I hope to go by Spring time next year for a month or two, maybe longer. So I have quite a bit of time ahead of me.

What about Rosetta Stone? Is that worth it?

So far my French skills are Bonjour, Para Les Ingles? and Sortie (exit i believe) the last time I was in France.

The reason I want to learn is because the last time I went to France, I really enjoyed both Paris and the French Rivera (I visited Nice for a few days). I hope to go back sometime soon, but I want to meet people and all of that stuff.

My blog post from 3 years ago is about my trip to France
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=70410
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 12 2010 20:51 GMT
#14
^rofl

http://french.about.com/ has all you need, good luck.most beatiful language ever
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Atom Cannister
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Germany380 Posts
July 12 2010 20:51 GMT
#15
I should have given more details.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Thomas_Method

It's an audio lesson so see if you can find it anywhere.
He's really great and will give the basics easily.
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 21:14:12
July 12 2010 21:10 GMT
#16
On July 13 2010 05:45 CaucasianAsian wrote:So far my French skills are Bonjour, Para Les Ingles? and Sortie (exit i believe) the last time I was in France.

Hahaha. That's some spanish-french combination. I think you mean Parlez-vous Anglais? It doesn't sound anything like the spanish "para" and "ingles".

Good luck! I hope people have some recommendations for learning french that is actually used. I learnt all the proper grammar and everything through years of school. I doubt it'd be very useful in conversational french.

Edit:
On July 13 2010 05:51 Atom Cannister wrote:
I should have given more details.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Thomas_Method

It's an audio lesson so see if you can find it anywhere.
He's really great and will give the basics easily.

I listened to one of his for spanish while I was on a flight to El Salvador. He was quite good but one of the kids was so dumb and terrible. Really slowed down the entire process.
Groslouser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France337 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 21:36:40
July 12 2010 21:33 GMT
#17
On July 13 2010 06:10 Durak wrote:
Good luck! I hope people have some recommendations for learning french that is actually used. I learnt all the proper grammar and everything through years of school. I doubt it'd be very useful in conversational french.


On the contrary, a lot of french can be very very picky about grammar and will correct whoever makes a mistake in front of them. Don't be offended by that, there is no hard feeling and it is quite common (nothing like "this fuckin amerloq' cant even speak properly") but i understand it can be hard to swallow.

The other advice i can give you is to be careful of being polite, most french wont mind if you are not fluent in french but they will if you are not polite (common politeness: bonjour/au revoir, use "vous" instead of "tu" and you shall be fine).

The method people told you above are great, however i strongly advise you to do the same thing as all people do to learn english: watch films in french.

subtitled if you're not confident with your french or if you dont know the film. A good thing is that although francophones dont produce much actions films, they do produce a lot of "slice of life" movies, in those there is everything you should know about everyday french.

Anyway if you want to talk over msn/hon just pm me. And good luck, it can be a quite hard langage to learn but it is worth it.

EDIT: i forgot: a lot of words are common in french and in englich ,learn the pronunciation in french of a word written in english and often it will work (well, the other times you'll make a fool out of yourself, but it happens to everyone in a foreing country).

illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 12 2010 21:38 GMT
#18
Quebec seems closer to you. ^_^
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
July 12 2010 22:10 GMT
#19
On July 13 2010 04:42 ScDeluX wrote:
French is a really hard language to learn because every word has a gender.


This drove me bonkers in high school. WHYYYY do words need a gender?
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kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
July 12 2010 22:13 GMT
#20
On July 13 2010 06:33 Groslouser wrote:
(common politeness: bonjour/au revoir, use "vous" instead of "tu" and you shall be fine).


I was always too lazy for this and got dirty looks from people rofl
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 12 2010 22:15 GMT
#21
On July 13 2010 07:10 Craton wrote:
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On July 13 2010 04:42 ScDeluX wrote:
French is a really hard language to learn because every word has a gender.


This drove me bonkers in high school. WHYYYY do words need a gender?


Because it's traced back (more or less) to Latin, which also has noun cases. Although in Latin there are three cases (including a neutral case).

French is not the worst. I have heard that many East-European languages (Finnish and Russian?) has more than 10 cases.
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-12 22:18:32
July 12 2010 22:17 GMT
#22
french is gay/hard/discouraging, i suggest you stop learning it right now to save yourself time in the future.

edit: when i first tried to speak french to some french people they thought i was mentally retarded LOL
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16985 Posts
July 12 2010 22:20 GMT
#23
On July 13 2010 07:10 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 04:42 ScDeluX wrote:
French is a really hard language to learn because every word has a gender.


This drove me bonkers in high school. WHYYYY do words need a gender?


Just be glad you don't have to decline everything like in Russian.

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