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UFC Champs by the end of the year.

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Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
July 08 2010 21:47 GMT
#1
I thought I'd throw down some predictions for who I think reigns by the end of 2010 and into 2011

Lightweight: BJ Penn
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He was finally toppled this year by Frank Edgar, but that will change come August. I honestly think BJ was robbed that fight, but it's his fault for ever letting it get that close. I predict BJ winning via submission midway through the fight. After that he takes on Gray Maynard(who I believe beats Florian), and makes a mess of Gray's face with superior boxing and not letting it go to the ground with his mutant-like flexibility.

Welterweight: George St.Pierre
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The picture tells it all really. He did it once to Koscheck, I dont see it being any different the second time around. George has the best wrestling in the welterweight division, maybe all of MMA. Josh has little more than a punchers chance. Probably the second easiest prediction here, George by TKO Rd.4, to remain champ for the remainder of the year.

Middleweight: Anderson Silva
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I picked Dan to win that fight, as I did with just about anyone Anderson has fought. I have never liked Anderson Silva, and to be honest I still don't. But I do respect his ability. He manages to put on a bunch of clown shows in his fights, because he's just that good, and no one has been able to stop him thus far. Do I think Chael Sonnen has a chance? Not really. I'm just waiting for Anderson to jump to 205 and fight stiffer competition(Shogun anyone?). Anderson will dominate 185 for quite some time.

Light Heavyweight: Lyoto Machida
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This one is tough to stay on topic because Shogun is out for so long. I still have faith In Machida. I think he'll fight possibly Rashad or the Ryan Bader/Lil Nog winner for a title shot. I think of this as sort of what GSP went through when he was on top of the world. All the pressure got to him, but he came back stronger than ever. I feel like it will be the same for Machida, meanwhile we have awhile for the 205 division to sort itself out while Shogun recovers.

Heavyweight: Cain Velasquez
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Ok what can I say, I love this guy. I think he is one of the most gifted Heavyweights ever. I think he moves better than Brock on the ground, he's a hell of a lot faster, and with superior technique in the stand-up game. I truly believe in technique over power. No doubt Brock is a monster and a truly gifted athlete, I just feel Cain brings a lot more to the table. He will use his vastly superior technique in ALL areas to dismantle Brock for a decision win. Besides, Mexico needs a heavyweight hero.



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Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
July 08 2010 21:59 GMT
#2
I really think Brock Lesnar will beat Velasquez. Have you seen Lesnars last match? He can endure so much punishment, it's unreal.
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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 22:12:00
July 08 2010 22:09 GMT
#3
i'm going to say chael sonnen at MW tired of anderson's fucking antics...

i duno how you can say machida will be the champion. maybe interim champ since shogun messed up his knee..AGAIN. but regardless shogun will remain champ until he fights again (like brock lesnar).

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Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
July 08 2010 22:21 GMT
#4
brock is going to destroy cain... way off on that but everybody else was pretty straight forward
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Diuqil
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States307 Posts
July 08 2010 22:27 GMT
#5
I really hate Brock and Anderson Silva, I hope Cain owns Brock and I don't really think anyone can own Silva, YET.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 22:30:07
July 08 2010 22:28 GMT
#6
On July 09 2010 06:59 Khenra wrote:
I really think Brock Lesnar will beat Velasquez. Have you seen Lesnars last match? He can endure so much punishment, it's unreal.


That is true, but if you remember Shane only connected with maybe about 15 of those 3000000 punches on the ground. He wore himself out, but you never know. Lesner is a beast.

Machida is my favorite fighter ever, so I'm hoping he wins it.
Silva is a great fighter and except for the forrest fight I really like him.
GSP is sick, love him. He is also amazing in the UFC games :D
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Dr.Kill-Joy
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States627 Posts
July 08 2010 22:38 GMT
#7
Why Lyoto Machida? He got beat twice my Shogun.(first match everyone know Shogun won that fight). Little curious of the Machida.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
July 08 2010 22:46 GMT
#8
I don't agree with Machida part. He's awesome, and may easily get the belt one day, but I don't see him getting the title shot before he does like 2-3 more fights, which means up to 2 years of waiting.
Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
July 08 2010 23:29 GMT
#9
Yeah I couldn't really pick a 205er for the end of this year, Shogun is out for a long time. I still think when there is a title fight it will be a 3rd between machida and shogun, with machida finally taking it.
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 09 2010 00:03 GMT
#10
I really doubt Machida will get a title shot before the end of the year. Shogun already has another fight lined up this year. Machida wont get a shot until 2011.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
July 09 2010 00:09 GMT
#11
so you basically made a blog to say you think cain will beat brock.
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Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
July 09 2010 00:29 GMT
#12
I made it to spark some debate, and just to kill some time.
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
July 09 2010 00:34 GMT
#13
On July 09 2010 09:09 redtooth wrote:
so you basically made a blog to say you think cain will beat brock.


lol

I agree with all the predictions here except for machida. i honestly think that cain will beat brock. cant wait until then which is still far away .
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7292 Posts
July 09 2010 01:14 GMT
#14
jake still in airforce?
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 09 2010 01:37 GMT
#15
A lot of people are saying Cain Velasquez can beat Lesnar, but I do not believe it at all. Carwin is probably the best striker in the UFC and he couldn't knock out Lesnar. Also, I refuse to think that Velasquez could take control of Lesnar on the ground. He is a physical freak and a national champion wrestler.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
July 09 2010 02:09 GMT
#16
On July 09 2010 10:14 Sadist wrote:
jake still in airforce?


Yeah, I'm actually in town right now, I leave monday if you wanted to hangout sometime before then, PM me your number or something.
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
July 09 2010 02:12 GMT
#17
On July 09 2010 10:37 tonight wrote:
A lot of people are saying Cain Velasquez can beat Lesnar, but I do not believe it at all. Carwin is probably the best striker in the UFC and he couldn't knock out Lesnar. Also, I refuse to think that Velasquez could take control of Lesnar on the ground. He is a physical freak and a national champion wrestler.


I definitely see Lesnar taking down Velasquez a few times during the fight, I just feel Cain will have superior grappling to get back to his feet. I can see Cain's striking eventually keeping Brock at bay from going for takedowns, picking him apart for the majority of the fight.
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 09 2010 02:47 GMT
#18
I guess the only advantage Cain will have is having watched the Carwin fight because that's probably how he would of went at Brock too. I highly doubt that Cain will be able to hold off Brock on the ground though. He might be able to get back on his feet, but eventually if he's down Brock is going to keep him down.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
July 09 2010 03:05 GMT
#19
I suppose we'll see, either way its going to be exciting, I hope they do one of those week long specials before the fight. It might be one of those end of the year shows too, could be a loaded ass card.
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 09 2010 04:05 GMT
#20
I heard Brock was wanting to fight again by November.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
July 09 2010 04:28 GMT
#21
BJ Penn -- Yes, I think he will rape Frankie the next time they fight. BJ isn't the ultimate winner, but he's still a beast when motivated.

GSP -- Yeah, I don't know who beats him at this weight class until his body starts to deteriorate.

Silva -- I think Chael has a legit chance to win here. Silva seems complacent and Chael is a vulnerable style match-up for him. I'd still take Silva though.

Machida -- Is the man until Shogun recovers, sure. The third match between the two would be interesting now that Machida's style has been twice refuted by Shogun, meaning that Machida will have to make some changes to his game plan. Isn't this the second or third problem Shogun has had with his knee? Who knows if he will return to full strength?

Lesnar -- Brock's still the man here. Cain is fast, but his boxing is so-so and Brock is much much quicker than Nog. How is Cain going to keep Brock off of him?



My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
July 09 2010 04:58 GMT
#22
On July 09 2010 13:28 A3iL3r0n wrote:
BJ Penn -- Yes, I think he will rape Frankie the next time they fight. BJ isn't the ultimate winner, but he's still a beast when motivated.

GSP -- Yeah, I don't know who beats him at this weight class until his body starts to deteriorate.

Silva -- I think Chael has a legit chance to win here. Silva seems complacent and Chael is a vulnerable style match-up for him. I'd still take Silva though.

Machida -- Is the man until Shogun recovers, sure. The third match between the two would be interesting now that Machida's style has been twice refuted by Shogun, meaning that Machida will have to make some changes to his game plan. Isn't this the second or third problem Shogun has had with his knee? Who knows if he will return to full strength?

Lesnar -- Brock's still the man here. Cain is fast, but his boxing is so-so and Brock is much much quicker than Nog. How is Cain going to keep Brock off of him?





First off thanks for some quality debate.

Yeah I figured I would get a lot of flak for the Cain pick. It's going to be tough for anyone to agree with me, especially after Brock beating Shane. I think Cains standup is the BEST in the HW division. Shane Carwin definitely hits the hardest, Brock hits hard too, but if were talking technical skills here, Cain all the way.

205 is going to be getting sorted out for awhile while shogun gets his knee fixed again. I just feel like Machida will go on another run to get his 3rd fight against Shogun, I feel that he can handle the pressures of being on top now.
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
July 09 2010 10:18 GMT
#23
I don't understand people reasoning Brock > Cain by saying Carwin hits harder than Cain and still couldn't finish Brock.

Well, there are 5 rounds, you don't have to do it in one. As the match progresses, Cain will be in more and more of an advantage.

Carwin fought for 1 round and he was done, he had absolutely no chance of winning after how visibly exhausted he was after 1st round. I don't see how he's the material to base your argument on and draw parallels with Velasquez when Velasquez is a totally different type of fighter.

Velasquez will hit you with maybe 15% less power, but he'll hit you for 5 rounds without stopping.
Carwin hits you 20 times and then gets ready to tap if you're not dead.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 09 2010 15:56 GMT
#24
Too bad Carwin never lost until Brock so that argument is pretty void.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
July 09 2010 18:07 GMT
#25
99.9% of people fighting carwin in that fight would've been doneski mid-way through the first round -- see his previous 12 fights -- the fact that lesnar survived it proves how much of a beast he is. lesnar will destroy cain in 2 rounds, TOPS
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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