EPTWater Boarding in the media - Page 2
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TheMaleficOne
United States12 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
As a mod on this forum I am telling you to not destroy threads by stating your unwanted opinion where it does not belong. You are free to make your own thread. Edit: haha bye. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
Anyways, on the OP, the mainstream media is a business and also has some responsibilities (indirect). For example, if those outlets kept referring to the practices as torture (when the whole issue was in debate) that would negatively impact the view of America by the world on the whole. Never mind what people thought before, it just looks bad period whether justified or not. | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On July 02 2010 06:33 TheMaleficOne wrote: Quick question, if terrorists held your family hostage, and you could waterboard them to save your family's lives, would you do it? Its not like they pick up random muslims off the streets, they usually have incriminating intelligence for these guys. So would I torture an alleged terrorist every time, if it meant saving American lives? Absolutely. BTW, the New York Times is like the most liberal news outlet in the United States, they have no benefit of not calling it torture. That's not the point. I think that torture is just wrong, who are you to say that another person deserves to be beaten and mistreated just so you can get some information out of them... Basic human rights, you cannot come up to me and try to deprive me of my freedom to live. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On July 02 2010 06:33 TheMaleficOne wrote: Quick question, if terrorists held your family hostage, and you could waterboard them to save your family's lives, would you do it? Its not like they pick up random muslims off the streets, they usually have incriminating intelligence for these guys. So would I torture an alleged terrorist every time, if it meant saving American lives? Absolutely. BTW, the New York Times is like the most liberal news outlet in the United States, they have no benefit of not calling it torture. Torture is torture. It doesn't stop becoming torture just because you deem it necessary. Even if it saves lives in the end, it's still torture. Calling it something else to make yourself feel better about it and engaging in self-justifications is a dangerous road. I'm not going to lie and say that torture will never produce any good. Because it can (although, if someone isn't responsive to the threat of torture, torture itself is not likely to make them cave). But even if it does, it shouldn't be regarded as something "good." At best, it's a means utilized to attempt to reach a good end. That's not the same thing as being good. It's torture; call it such. On July 02 2010 06:42 zeppelin wrote: no he wasn't, in fact he said during the campaign that he would grant retroactive legal immunity to companies that illegally wiretapped americans "No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me." http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html Sorry, but your boy Obama is a total phony. Say one thing, do another is practically his motto. | ||
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
On July 02 2010 08:42 Mortality wrote: Sorry, but your boy Obama is a total phony. Say one thing, do another is practically his motto. Obama has prompted me to realize I need to vote for Green\Socialist if there isn't a proven, worthwhile Democrat in my district. | ||
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crayzisback
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
On July 02 2010 09:12 crayzisback wrote: I wish the Green party would make a comeback Welcome to TL ^.^ The Washington State Green Party is inactive... I think. It sucks they aren't even around. We have plenty of votes for Dems for the presidency\senate\house (my district is Repub in the House, though). We could spare some for a Green party. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last quote in OP is really interesting and shows how much medias are biased and manipulating. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32152 Posts
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