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SC ICCUP Built-up in 6 months: Recap Day #2

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ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
June 28 2010 22:09 GMT
#1
Good evening ladies and gents.

The second day passed by rather quickly, though it ended tragical. My Unreal Tournament clan JaLLa lost their Capture The Flag Grand Final in division 3. Man, that was a war with too many downs and too few ups. Maybe next season we will do better.

But now...

Day 2 Recap - What I did
On June 28 2010 07:09 Harem wrote:
If you really do want to FE -> Goon/Sair vs Zerg then read the following guide.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108201

Also has example VODs and replays in thread.

Have funnn.
Thanks for that link, I had a nice read up. :D

- I watched D9D episode 145, so congratulations Mr Nine to your 24th. You roll! :D
- Had to watch that Day9Fan tribute as well.

Ok back to the work on my built-up
- I once again sat down and worked my head around the Fast Expo into Goon/Sair build. I played a total of 95 minutes. This time I went into macro mode and tried to go High Templar, Zealots as a follow up. The whole thing worked out just fine. But you know it! It's only some build order games against the AI to get a feel.
- I watched the PokerStrategy TSL Bronze Finals match between JF and Sen on Fighting Spirit. Nice game if you ask me, but hard for me to focus too much on the Protoss. Anybody got the replay lying around? Or is it even still available for download somewhere?


Conclusion of the day
- I suck at mechanics at the moment. My controls feel odd odd odd, I tell you. But that's just me getting used to it.
- Using Shift F2, F3, F4 for bases is nice, but man it's taken me ages to get used to that.
- My hotkey setup at the moment is: 1,2,3 units, 4,5,6 gate cluster, 7 starport. Yeah that rocks! Not!
- I really wanna get going playing some real players. Playing these AI/BO games is good for me getting the grasp of the game, but I miss a challenge, I'm a competitive gamer (Unreal Tournament!) after all. :>

Also I wanna thank for the encouragement and I am eager to keep this going.

On more reply
On June 28 2010 09:36 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
also do you mean a 4gate goon opening into double stargate corsair?
At the moment it's 3 gate starport pumping Dragoons and Corsairs until I have 8/4 before I get 5 gate, a Citadel and an Archive to change my mid-game. I am still thinking when to take my third base. Last I got it on 120 supply. Pretty late. I always forget about expanding. Luckily, the AI is not as punishing. :D

Cheers for tonight and stay tuned. One remark though, I will end up having not a lot of time tomorrow, it's gonna be a lot of stuff cutting away my freetime, but I figure something out.

Good night
ionize



I just love video games, what's your excuse?
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9803 Posts
June 28 2010 22:14 GMT
#2
i've never actually practiced against the ai. it just never seems to do anything.

but no, tsl2 replays are not available for download

i really cant help you much in pvz tho, lol, since i suck at it myself. i've never known when to add gates instead of expanding, and when to delay the expansion. oh well. here's to another week of practice!
boomer hands
aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
June 28 2010 22:54 GMT
#3
my hotkeys are exactly as you described it :O except i switch 456 into army and just use f2 for gates later on
i find it convenient for stargate 7 and robo//third 8, nat 9 and main 0
so i can just 7o8o9p0p for sair, obs//probe probe probe. just my take on it

good luck! don't give up, that's never fun
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
June 28 2010 22:56 GMT
#4
So what's this about? You're going to play for 6 months on iCCup and see what rank you get?
NevilleS
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada266 Posts
June 28 2010 23:05 GMT
#5
I'd play PvT with you if you want some basic practice, but sounds like you are focusing on PvZ. Bah.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
June 28 2010 23:21 GMT
#6
so youve played several hours already doing 1 build against a comp. That should be enough to familiarize yourself with the correct build sequences etc, y not play some "1v1 d you zerg" games now! :D


aka DragOn[NaS]
XazXio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States356 Posts
June 29 2010 00:17 GMT
#7
are you going to do this every day for six months...
How does food become poo?
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
June 29 2010 00:54 GMT
#8
Good to hear how it's going! Keep it up. I went from knowing NOTHING about competitive SC to high D+/low C- in one season being patient like this.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Flyingsnow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Japan208 Posts
June 29 2010 02:20 GMT
#9
haha all hotkey set ups are unique i guess. For pvz in particular though I've rearranged my hotkey set ups multiple times until settling on bisu's setting. 1 sairs, 2,3,4,for units, 5 obs, 678 gates, and 9,0 for nexus main and nat. The nexus hotkeys are just my own things from how i used to play before and i still feel like they're useful. The setup may look crazy but it feels very natural and I can understand why he does it like that now.

Good luck though and I look forward to more blogs!
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